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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:34pm On Nov 08, 2014
hahn:


How do you know he is a man of God?
ONLY FOOLS DOUBT PROOFS, IF YOU HAVE SEEN PROOFS THEN YOU CAN TELL HE IS.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by ldpele(m): 7:36pm On Nov 08, 2014
Bobbystanley:
They aren't Far from the truth.

A church where the general Overseer is the richest Pastor in the world with the poor man's offering and have done nothing tangible to give back to the Poor.

The schools he established with the common man's sweat isn't affordable for the poor.

What else do u call Witchcraft?
common man!! Common man!!! Them force or put gun for common man head to put money(offering) for him church? If u don't like it,go and open your charity organization to people can donate to it. Simple

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:38pm On Nov 08, 2014
zheroes:


any ministry that gives you an impression you must give something to get something is SCAM!!!!! The scriptures says God loves a cheerful giver, and do not underestimate the 20 naira people contribute. they are ripping people off.
YOU SHOULD CALL ELIJAH A SCAMMER FOR ASKING FOR THE LAST MEAL OF THE WIDOW OR WHEN JESUS REQUESTED FOR A DONKEY. ... OR WHEN GOD HIMSELF REQUESTED FOR ISAAC.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by iamord(m): 7:38pm On Nov 08, 2014
donmalcolm21:
. If you understand the way the world works. Eg Saudi Arabia discriminates against women seriously but they have a lot of foundations and companies in the UK. The UK turns a blind eye to it

Even muslim ladies in uk do the same so it not an excuse

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by opyscol(m): 7:39pm On Nov 08, 2014
LORDI:
Black black sheep,have you any wool?
Yes sir yes sir! 100 bags full
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2014
bezimo:
There is no doubt that the source of this report, whoever started this is either influenced by demons or occultic. They are afraid and envious of the continous dominion of the winners Chapel International, God's established church., and as such has taken to the media to either rubbish the name of Bishop Oyedepo or The Winners Chapel.
Well You haters can continue to hate and be frustrated and watch as the church covers new ground and take new territories. Rebellion is as the sin of witchcraft I Samuel 15:23.The Church remains totally against witchcraftry, and will totally devastate it wherever it is encountered as shown by the exploit of Gods Chosen Servant Bishop David Oyedepo.

Lmao...you actually think you're more "Christian" than a country that started Protestantism, which Pentecostalism branched out from. The same country that wrote the King James Version of the Bible, no?

Keep fooling yourself...these folks just see African pulpit pimps for the frauds they're. They know most of them, including the sheeple like you, don't understand the origins and the purpose of the religion. However, they will never let you flip it, and use it as a tool to steal from, or abuse folks out here. That is an unacceptable behaviour. Keep ya religion and chasing witchcraft (medieval tripe) in Africa.

They have already given you lot enough space to keep lying to yourselves in the naija community. What else do you want? Want to spread ya tentacles to schools no one asked for, or start competing with the Church of England?

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:42pm On Nov 08, 2014
eminentme:
he deserves more than he got, I wish he was beaten, just imagine d levo of corruption in churches, not even in a political setting. some of his members are suffering, he cajoled and scammed 'em of their money, not only that, he's planning to establish a sch in the UK, (wetin do Nigeria,abi land don finish for here) this is how God will surely disgrace them all, one by one. I hate such pastors with passion

NB: i'm not castigating nobody.
I SEE YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THIS MAN OF GOD BUT HAS CHOSEN TO FOLLOW THE PATH OF REGULAR CRITICS. DO YOU KNOW HOW MANY SCHOOLS THE MINISTRY HAS IN NIGERIA. ARE THE POOR IN THAT CHURCH COMPLANING. WHY ARE YOU COMPLAINING LIKE YOU CAN TURN THE POOR TO MILLIONAIRES. IF A POOR MAN COMES TO YOU FOR ASSISTANCE WILL YOU GIVE HIM CONSIDERING THE FACT YOU BARELY KNOW HIM. WHY DONT YU LEAVE THE POOR TO PRACTICE WHATEVER RELIGION THEY WISH. YOU HATE HIM , BUT YOUR OPINION DOES NOT COUNT. YOU CANNOT CHANGE WHO HE IS.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:43pm On Nov 08, 2014
oboman:
I don't think it's harsh, bearing in mind how countries in the west treat people differently from us........ I'm not saying they are saints but they do more than us to protect the vulnerable; children, disabled and old people....


He slapped a vulnerable girl which in our psyche is okay but not in the west's psyche...


You see all sorts of child abuse in Nigeria perpetuated by teachers and parents in the name of discipline... What pains me the most is the thought of bringing a little boy/girl from village to come and be used as a slave in the city...


@ OP, I don't think we should call it ''harsh'' because beliefs in witches is still prevalent in Nigeria and the very vulnerable in Nigeria are usually accused of being witches....

Would you still call it harsh if your sister/ or any female relative was slapped in front of tens of thousands?


She is young girl, poor and vulnerable.... Therefore, she fits into the group that are usually abused in our country..... Go slap Jonathan's daughter and see whether Mopol's bullet wont ricochet off ur skull...

How I wish we empathize more as a people!














This is the most sensible comment I've seen so far.
No one is even saying anything about d girl that was abused in front of thousands, instead they are all throwing verbal missiles and baring their ignorance. Smh for we blacks.

Even d topic of d thread is very misleading and d gullible brain-washed ones are here defending d pastor and raining abuses on BBC. The OP just used a catchy headline (purposely or out of ignorance) to attract readers and those who cannot read btw d lines are exposing their level of dumbfuckery.

U gullible nigerians need to understand that d mentality of d average westerner is far different from that of a nigerian. U don't just physically abuse a vulnerable girl in front of thousands. They don't take that kinda bullshittt. Westerners are far more intellectually enlightened than many mentally enslaved brainless nigerians who cannot think for themselves. The UK frowns on a church that espouses belief in witchcraft as one of its basic tenets; not just mere belief but carrying out actions that are contrary to reason, human conscience and d legal system.

A lot of d inhumane treatment we mete out to people all in d name of "witchcraft suspicion" can only happen here because of our low mentality.

Here in Nigeria (and other low-mentality african countries), people can be brutalized, beaten to death or even burnt alive because some imbeciles think they're witches/wizards. Wtf!
Here in Nigeria, u'll see some kids being starved or detained in churches, whipped and harassed until they confess to being witches. If a family brings a child (to be used as househelps of course) from d village to town and anything dares go wrong in d family, aha! Na winch oooooo!
If an old woman looks at u in funny way, she's a witch. Here in naija, people will construct kiosks and call them churches. In one street alone u can see up to 20 churches all blaring unbearable noise from their giant speakers and when u complain of d noise, u're a witch or agent of satan. In a compound where u're not d only tenant, u'll host noisy casting n binding prayer sessions and if another tenant dares complain, na winch. Naija is a lawless entity with little regards for d social/physical/psychological welfare of its citizens and that's why all these nonsense can happen with no one giving a fuqq.

A western pastor/priest/man of God cannot try that nonsense that Oyedepo did. He did that because he has d mentality of a typical Nigerian. Some of u who support anything done by anyone who brands himself as a man of God need to realize that its d westerners that brought this same Christianity to us and they are not all immoral/irreligious atheists.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by happyme4life(f): 7:44pm On Nov 08, 2014
Bobbystanley:
They aren't Far from the truth.

A church where the general Overseer is the richest Pastor in the world with the poor man's offering and have done nothing tangible to give back to the Poor.

The schools he established with the common man's sweat isn't affordable for the poor.

What else do u call Witchcraft?
its like enjoy poverty. cant u think of being rich so u can afford rich schools. enjoy your poverty. no true believer in Winners is poor and they are not complaining.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by donmalcolm21(m): 7:44pm On Nov 08, 2014
iamord:


Even muslim ladies in uk do the same so it not an excuse
then why are they so crazy about Oyedepo's own.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by GiftyGlee(f): 7:48pm On Nov 08, 2014
Judge not that thou may not be judged also...

My utmost pity goes to those joining the crowd to talk ill about a proved man of God...too bad...when the repacautions show, no blame devil o cos he no send you the one wey you dey do so...

Its just a matter of time, that school will still be established and parents will still take their children there...delay is not denial...

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:48pm On Nov 08, 2014
Sibrah:
All these coming from the same Britain where people are allowed to get married to Animals. Hypocrites ! ! !
I wonder how humans can propose to animals and the animal agree to it.
THATS A REASON THEY WILL WANT TO STOP HIS MINISTRY BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THAT WILL DO TO THEIR GAY LAW SHIT. EVIL MEN CONTROL THIS WORLD.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by iamord(m): 7:49pm On Nov 08, 2014
donmalcolm21:
then why are they so crazy about Oyedepo's own.

Can you let a random person slap your daughter??

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by PapiWata: 7:49pm On Nov 08, 2014
ChokolateBoss:


This is the most sensible comment I've seen so far.
No one is even saying anything about d girl that was abused in front of thousands, instead they are all throwing verbal missiles and baring their ignorance. Smh for we blacks.

Even d topic of d thread is very misleading and d gullible brain-washed ones are here defending d pastor and raining abuses on BBC. The OP just used a catchy headline (purposely or out of ignorance) to attract readers and those who cannot read btw d lines are exposing their level of dumbfuckery.

U gullible nigerians need to understand that d mentality of d average westerner is far different from that of a nigerian. U don't just physically abuse a vulnerable girl in front of thousands. They don't take that kinda bullshittt. Westerners are far more intellectually enlightened than many mentally enslaved brainless nigerians who cannot think for themselves. The UK frowns on a church that espouses belief in witchcraft as one of its basic tenets; not just mere belief but carrying out actions that are contrary to reason, human conscience and d legal system.

A lot of d inhumane treatment we mete out to people all in d name of "witchcraft suspicion" can only happen here because of our low mentality.

Here in Nigeria (and other low-mentality african countries), people can be brutalized, beaten to death or even burnt alive because some imbeciles think they're witches/wizards. Wtf!
Here in Nigeria, u'll see some kids being starved or detained in churches, whipped and harassed until they confess to being witches. If a family brings a child (to be used as househelps of course) from d village to town and anything dares go wrong in d family, aha! Na winch oooooo!
If an old woman looks at u in funny way, she's a witch. Here in naija, people will construct kiosks and call them churches. In one street alone u can see up to 20 churches all blaring unbearable noise from their giant speakers and when u complain of d noise, u're a witch or agent of satan. In a compound where u're not d only tenant, u'll host noisy casting n binding prayer sessions and if another tenant dares complain, na winch. Naija is a lawless entity with little regards for d social/physical/psychological welfare of its citizens and that's why all these nonsense can happen with no one giving a fuqq.

A western pastor/priest/man of God cannot try that nonsense that Oyedepo did. He did that because he has d mentality of a typical Nigerian. Some of u who support anything done by anyone who brands himself as a man of God need to realize that its d westerners that brought this same Christianity to us and they are not all immoral/irreligious atheists.

You are a good man, sir - one who cuts his own path, rather than blindly following the dim-witted herd. I have no further comments to make. You have said it all.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by iamord(m): 7:51pm On Nov 08, 2014
majekdom2:
THATS A REASON THEY WILL WANT TO STOP HIS MINISTRY BECAUSE THEY KNOW WHAT THAT WILL DO TO THEIR GAY LAW SHIT. EVIL MEN CONTROL THIS WORLD.

He can't Do jack to their gay law. He can't stop boko haram ..na Gay law..smh. Ma wa. See what religion has caused..

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by maximilano: 7:52pm On Nov 08, 2014
Bobbystanley:
They aren't Far from the truth.

A church where the general Overseer is the richest Pastor in the world with the poor man's offering and have done nothing tangible to give back to the Poor.

The schools he established with the common man's sweat isn't affordable for the poor.

What else do u call Witchcraft?
poor man's sweat? ...did he force them?

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:54pm On Nov 08, 2014
swagwu:
This BBC have always been looking for the slightest opportunity to rain abuse on nigeria because we refuse to accept gay marriage....

but wait oo did oyedepo really slaped any grl
YES HE DID SLAP A GIRL THAT CALLED HERSELF WITCH. IF YOU SEE A GIRL WHO SAYS SHE IS A WITCH AND IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE STATEMENT WHAT WOULD YOU DO ?
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by chamboy(m): 7:57pm On Nov 08, 2014
ikeugbo:
every amount is wonderful but church members dont make true pastors rich. Do you know that his offering to any church he is invited to is about N5m. God makes men rich and i still repeat offering only makes hungry pastors rich. Do you know that widows and the poor have funds sharef to them every month this is i know from a member who attends the church and her husband is dead. Books are sold but the money he gives back to the church. Dont stay outside read your own meaning into scriptures. The poor woman gave 10pence because thats all she had and someone who gives his last N100k is the same as the woman because that all they have too. The amount is not the issue but the heart o the giver
just if u know d meaning of Christianity.... Christianity is not just Showing love to church members, it's mainly about evangelism, And how do u evangelise, by Showing d Love of God To Unbelievers. Am Sure u know Heaven would be much more happy if churches can donate money to Bokoharam Affected Areas....
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by maximilano: 7:57pm On Nov 08, 2014
PapiWata:


You are a good man, sir - one who cuts his own path, rather than blindly following the dim-witted herd. I have no further comments to make. You have said it all.
The economic hardship has made every Nigerian a religious bigot

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 7:57pm On Nov 08, 2014
taiwoflb:
you sure say no be the witches de talk
grin no be lie...na them dey talk!
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by redsun(m): 7:58pm On Nov 08, 2014
I am sure they are just making a note of the line of thought of an institution that wants to teach uk children to be rational in the 21st century. It is like something from the dark age when reasoning was frown upon.
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by maximilano: 8:00pm On Nov 08, 2014
SirShymex:


Lmao...you actually think you're more "Christian" than a country that started Protestantism, which Pentecostalism branched out from. The same country that wrote the King James Version of the Bible, no?

Keep fooling yourself...these folks just see African pulpit pimps for the frauds they're. They know most of them, including the sheeple like you, don't understand the origins and the purpose of the religion. However, they will never let you flip it, and use it as a tool to steal from, or abuse folks out here. That is an unacceptable behaviour. Keep ya religion and chasing witchcraft (medieval tripe) in Africa.

They have already given you lot enough space to keep lying to yourselves in the naija community. What else do you want? Want to spread ya tentacles to schools no one asked for, or start competing with the Church of England?
That's history
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by GiftyGlee(f): 8:00pm On Nov 08, 2014
majekdom2:
YES HE DID SLAP A GIRL THAT CALLED HERSELF WITCH. IF YOU SEE A GIRL WHO SAYS SHE IS A WITCH AND IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE STATEMENT WHAT WOULD YOU DO ?

ask me o...some people are so canal minded...smh

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by chamboy(m): 8:01pm On Nov 08, 2014
J
soludo93:
Most BBC presenters are mere racists. They are just angry that blacks (especially Africans) are the ones God has chosen to preach the final message to the world. They can call us anything they want but if they reject our messages, they will perish forever.
we r d bigger Racist in this world

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 08, 2014
majekdom2:
YES HE DID SLAP A GIRL THAT CALLED HERSELF WITCH. IF YOU SEE A GIRL WHO SAYS SHE IS A WITCH AND IS SERIOUS ABOUT THE STATEMENT WHAT WOULD YOU DO ?
the said girl said she was a witch for christ, can u imagine that? Its like calling calling mohammed a prostitute in the presence of an imam.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by Nobody: 8:02pm On Nov 08, 2014
Edusouls:
religious but very deceptive africans, our so called men of God are very diplomatic extorters, corrupt buisnessmen that make riches out of the poor masses, under disguise as messiahs sent from God. How many of this greedy oliargchs have made any attempt to better the lifes of the poor worshiping amongst them? Imagine the richest africa pastor has no charity organization or any firm set up for the needy? he is busy acqquring private jets, building mega projects, expanding his empire over seas, london know what they are doing, they dont need these african crook pastors, Hei black man is black and has a dark heart.kai..
SO BECAUSE HE IS RICH ,HE SHOULD START SPRAYING MONEY..... NIGERIANS SAI
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by nora544: 8:04pm On Nov 08, 2014
I feel more that he want the school for his son because the UK govermand had also the hand over his church money in UK.

With this school he could help his rich friend to bring money every month legaly to UK this rich pastors or so called God of man are also the problem that corruption is at this high level in nigeria.

He is a business man and not more and no one of this rich pastors is a real man of God they are all man made God of man and one is better to keep his business than the other.

This little girl she is still a child need no slap from him but his love but love is a word that nigerian pastors didnot know.

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by donmalcolm21(m): 8:05pm On Nov 08, 2014
iamord:


Can you let a random person slap your daughter??
. I don't think we are on same page here, I'm talking about the way the Brits treats Nigerians and u are taking it to my person. I'm sorry I've got nothing to tell you again, I thought we are arguing objectively. I'm sorry once again I won't reply your post.
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by fireforfire: 8:07pm On Nov 08, 2014
maximilano:

poor man's sweat? ...did he force them?

He may not hv forced dem, but he may have manipulated dem .

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Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by twerkjack: 8:07pm On Nov 08, 2014
taiwoflb:
you sure say no be the witches de talk
my dear o. ȋ̝̊̅̄
Even heard There's a skul of witchcraft n wizardry in London
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by cole265(m): 8:07pm On Nov 08, 2014
enimcnite:
i will not use my mouth to criticize or judge a man of God....i just dey observe! undecided

Mtsheeeee...because he is God of man?
Re: BBC Calls Winners Chapel "Witchcraft Church" by NobleG1(m): 8:09pm On Nov 08, 2014
That's what you get when create a church to steal from your poor congregation.

Religion is the greatest hoax in human history.

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