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gunners / Who Was Mary Magdalene & What Is The Mystery In "the Last Supper" By Da Vinci? (2) (3) (4)
[deleted] by Nobody: 9:17pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
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Re: [deleted] by bigiyaro(m): 9:21pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
How many time will i tell u guys to try another style? Mumuslims, artiest, philosophers etc etc don try this style n eno work. |
Re: [deleted] by Orial(f): 9:45pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
Story for the gods. Tales by moonlight. |
Re: [deleted] by plaetton: 9:55pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
TheNaijan: Bingo! Especially to the bolded in red. The cult of Mary, mother of Jesus, in the catholic tradition was originated primarily to counter and replace the cult of Mary, bride of Jesus. They succeeded. |
Re: [deleted] by malvisguy212: 10:33pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
plaetton:today,we will here from athiest, jesus did not exist,tommorow, one will say is a lied,jesus exist but the bible lied. The new satanic bible favour athiest,so jesus exist. One thing we will always know is this, christianity will alway have enemy,the gospel shall be preach then the end will come. |
Re: [deleted] by plaetton: 10:52pm On Nov 09, 2014 |
malvisguy212:Yeah, I have great doubts that Jesus, as presented in the bible, existed. But the cult and religion erected in his name are real and self-evident , and is worthy of being debated. |
Re: [deleted] by malvisguy212: 6:48am On Nov 10, 2014 |
plaetton:jesus did not claim any religion, he preach the gospel just like any other prophet preach. |
Re: [deleted] by malvisguy212: 9:15am On Nov 10, 2014 |
plaetton:Author's Background Flavius Josephus (AD 37-100), was born into a priestly Jewish family. He was a Pharisee and a historian for the Roman empire. He wrote several famous works, among them are: Antiquities of the Jews and the Wars of the Jews. Historians say Josephus was not a Christian. Reference To Jesus Christ Now, there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man. For he was a doer of surprising feats - a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ; and when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him, for he appeared to them alive again the third day, as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him; and the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct to this day.* - Flavius Josephus, Antiquities of the Jews 18.3.3 Josephus bears witness to John as having been a baptist, and as promising purification to those who underwent the rite. Now this writer, although not believing in Jesus as the Christ, in seeking after the cause of the fall of Jerusalem and the destruction of the temple, whereas he ought to have said that the conspiracy against Jesus was the cause of these calamities befalling the people, since they put to death Christ, who was a prophet . . . - Origen, Origen Against Celsus 1.47, see footnote [1] Josephus, at least, has not hesitated to testify to this in his writings, where he says, ". . . For the Jews slew him, although he was a most just man - Eusebius. Church History of Eusebius. Conclusion: This reference reveals several key things: 1) Jesus was known as a wise man and was highly regarded. 2) Apparently Josephus is referring to Jesus' miracles. 3) Jesus was a teacher of truth for many Jews and Gentiles. 4) Jesus was killed on a cross by Pontius Pilate. 5) Jesus appeared alive the third day after being killed. 6) Predictions by the prophets came true in Christ. 7) Jesus is the Christ or Messiah. |
Re: [deleted] by Nobody: 9:35am On Nov 10, 2014 |
Flaws in the whole thing 1.The document was produced long after the gospels were produced...especially Q. 2.There is a lot of special pleading here.... First the story was about Joseph, son of Jacob and his wife Asenath, and ther two sons....Mannaseh and Ephraim...But then...according to the Mail... Jacobovici decided to look more deeply into Joseph and Aseneth, when he compared their story with other Old Testament tales. In other words....he claims that it is a story about Joseph and Asenath....then without proof...immediately assumes that Jesus and Mary of Magdala are being referred to. I don't know what this is....but it does sound like special pleading to me.That , and a lot of assumptions. Jesus was not married. Full stop. |
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