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Re: V6 And V4 by FLORIDACAR: 3:15am On Nov 27, 2008
@SUSUMAN the above price with additional (300,000) clearing in Lagos , you looking @ 2 MILLION NAIRA
landing cost. provided you can find someone to buy it for you from the state, or you liaise with one of
Preorder dealer in the house such as, (BABAISME, JENJU , e.tc, )

CIVIC 20004 shoulde be same price or little -lower !

Goood luck,
Re: V6 And V4 by Areaboy2(m): 2:53pm On Nov 27, 2008
great, like i was hoping, my car dealer frens have helped me out to check the price of the car, freighting and everything else,

they only other thing i can comment on now is the so called bad fuel economy while using aircon,


This statement is actually a myth(or so i taught), until i saw a rerun of the mythbusters fuel economy/ac episode, ,

"[b]Windows down vs. air conditioning

"Urban puzzle": it is more efficient, on a hot day, to run with the A/C on and windows up than to run with windows down (b/c of increasing car's drag).

Computer-based mpg measurements: * 11.7/11.8 with A/C on and windows up * 11.7/11.8 with A/C off and windows up * 11.3 with A/C off and windows down

So, according to the computer, it's better to use A/C with windows up.

This was too quick and easy for TV, so they decided to stage a seven hour marathon, race-til-you're-empty duel, with Jamie driving an SUV with A/C on and Adam driving an SUV with windows down. Though, once the safety inspector intervened, it was no longer a seven-hour marathon, it was a bit slower (45mph instead of 55mph), and a lot shorter (only 5 gallons each).

Jamie's A/C car ran out of gas first -- Adam's windows down SUV ran for another 30 laps -- completely contradicting the computer mpg estimate. Computer estimate based on air flow into the engine, so it would appear that it is unable to properly model the difference between A/C and windows down."[/b]



o well, the newer the engine the less it will consume fuel, so i say you stay with the honda civic, it really will fulfil all you need,
Re: V6 And V4 by sojioguns(m): 10:53am On Dec 01, 2008
Area boy, Nice thread you have here. What do you think about the 2004 Volvo s60. I love that car.
Weird engine (I5) and superb acceleration.
Re: V6 And V4 by Areaboy2(m): 2:45pm On Dec 01, 2008
sojioguns:

Area boy, Nice thread you have here. What do you think about the 2004 Volvo s60. I love that car.
Weird engine (I5) and superb acceleration.

Volvo's are generally tough cars that we don't normally look into here in Nigeria, (me included), i honestly dont know much about the S60 or any of the new model Volvo's 2004 - present. (except that they are very technical cars), that not minding, i'll get to ask a couple of my colleagues, see if any of them have got an idea on Volvo, aswell as do my research online, hope i have the time to come back and give you what u need,

take care man
Re: V6 And V4 by sojioguns(m): 2:52pm On Dec 01, 2008
I have done my research on the car and I believe it is a more affordable alternative to the BMW 3 series. I just need a specialised volvo service centre here in lagos.
Re: V6 And V4 by FLORIDACAR: 1:54am On Dec 02, 2008
@Sojioguns, remember to buy Spare-engine soon as you buy Volvo S40. because the Engine never last!!!.
have you consider second-hand value as well?
Re: V6 And V4 by sojioguns(m): 5:59am On Dec 02, 2008
It is the s60 and I believe Volvo engines are one of the strongest out there. Basic parts are my concern (oil filters, etc for servicing) Major parts can be ordered. As for second hand value I do not wish to sell the car anytime soon and when it is old enough I could easily give it away. (I intend to keep it for about 7-8 years or more).
Re: V6 And V4 by FLORIDACAR: 6:22am On Dec 02, 2008
@sojioguns , since your mind is set on this S60. Permit me to send you some pics? maybe we can strike a deal on Volvo immediately after XMASS. i guarantee you 6month maintenance kits, such as spark-plug, oil&filter, airfilter,
Re: V6 And V4 by Areaboy2(m): 8:05am On Dec 02, 2008
a good engine won't be needing spark plug anytime near one year, more like well into the second year of use,

well, soji, you are right, like i said initially, volvo's are generally very tough cars that we don't give a chance in naija, your first task is to go around where u stay and find a good volvo mechanic, if possible have him go with you and look at the car u wana pick up, cos when u get a good engine, u'll be glad you did,

remember regular maint is so important, we tend to ignore that so much in nigeria, maintain it often and it'll will serve u 6-8 years easy,

keep in mind that your avereage engine wears off at around 200K(KM) and a well maintained engine will do an extra 100k (KM), trust me, i've done the maths involved.
Re: V6 And V4 by macsignor(m): 2:15pm On Dec 27, 2010
Area Bros,
I see your an Auto guru. Can you please advice me on a 1992 Honda Accord (Hala) with over heating engine.
1) Radiator is clean and ok.
2) Thermometer reads normal (even when the water boils and I can persive the smell of the hot engine)
3) It heats up with or with out the AC.
4) Fans are working well.

Please I need your advice to guide my mechanic to do the right thing, he thinks just changing the top gasket will solve it.
Re: V6 And V4 by Ikenna351(m): 10:52pm On Dec 27, 2010
Area_boy:


This was too quick and easy for TV, so they decided to stage a seven hour marathon, race-til-you're-empty duel, with Jamie driving an SUV with A/C on and Adam driving an SUV with windows down. Though, once the safety inspector intervened, it was no longer a seven-hour marathon, it was a bit slower (45mph instead of 55mph), and a lot shorter (only 5 gallons each).

Jamie's A/C car ran out of gas first -- Adam's windows down SUV ran for another 30 laps -- completely contradicting the computer mpg estimate. Computer estimate based on air flow into the engine, so it would appear that it is unable to properly model the difference between A/C and windows down."[/b][/i][/color]


AC on- windows up consume less fuel when the car in question exceeds 55mph/90kmh. By then, the engine produces enough Horsepower to bear the load of the AC on the engine/Alternator without hampering the fuel economy. Its always advisable to on the AC while on high speed on highway. The increasing air drag when the windows are down creates more load on the engine by the engine struggling to maintain the speed. When a vehicle's windows are down on hispeed, the sound of the engine increases, unlike when the AC is on & windows up. you can carryout the observation yourself. Go & stand by the side of a hiway and see for yourself. You can tell from an oncoming vehicle on hiway if its windows are up or down by the highsound or low sound of the engine.

FLORIDACAR:

@Sojioguns, remember to buy Spare-engine soon as you buy Volvo S40. because the Engine never last!!!.
have you consider second-hand value as well?

FLORIDACAR

Volvo 760 GLE '88-92 models had one of the most powerful ever produced V6 engine in the world so far. The engine happened to be PRV even-fire 2.8 litre short stroke engine. The engine was widely acknowledged as an industructible engine that can exceed 300,000 miles before engine rebuild, if properly cared for. If you know what short stroke engine means, then you will understand why its was regarded as a very powerful smooth running V6 engine ever produced. So, is Volvo engine durable? Yes. As long as you apply PREVENTATIVE MAINTANANCE.
Re: V6 And V4 by profify: 7:10am On Jul 29, 2013
Hi All, Please someone is giving me a Nigerian used 2000 Toyota corolla for 500K. It has a V6 engine, the car is well pimped and works very well. But i am thinking the price should be less. Also i am hesitating because is a V6. Please your advice. Thanks.
Re: V6 And V4 by elektra80: 4:05pm On Jul 29, 2013
prof.ify:
Hi All, Please someone is giving me a Nigerian used 2000 Toyota corolla for 500K. It has a V6 engine, the car is well pimped and works very well. But i am thinking the price should be less. Also i am hesitating because is a V6. Please your advice. Thanks.

I've never seen a Toyota Corolla with a V6 engine.. Are u sure u are not talking about Camry? Toyota Corolla are small compact cars and they come with 1.8 liter I4 engine. So what size of engine is the V6 u saw?
Re: V6 And V4 by Nobody: 4:20pm On Jul 29, 2013
elektra80:

I've never seen a Toyota Corolla with a V6 engine.. Are u sure u are not talking about Camry? Toyota Corolla are small compact cars and they come with 1.8 liter I4 engine. So what size of engine is the V6 u saw?

I was going to ask the same.
Re: V6 And V4 by Gee2728(m): 1:35pm On Jul 30, 2013
Bro mase point of order here its not in all cases that V6 are more powerful that 4 bangers. Example most 4 cylinder C230 kompressor will out-gun almost any honda except the honda NSX or the TYPE R. I stand 2 be corrected.
Ma$e:
@ area boy, tnx 4 ur contribution. I was trying 2 explain dt the v6 engines have 6 cylinders, we wer not talking abt d orientation but the number of cylinders. d more d cylinders, d more powerful d engine, and vthe complicated it gets 4 our mechanics here, plus more fuel too. abi? pls correct me if am wrong. Also do we have d v- orientation for 4 cylinder engines? thanx
Re: V6 And V4 by gbengaadet: 10:11pm On Jul 31, 2013
V6 History

The Marmon Motor Car Company was one of the earliest pioneers of V6 engines. As part of a general progression towards engines with even greater power, Marmon built first a V2, then a V4, V6, V8, and finally a V16. In the early 1900s, Buick experimented with a design for a V6 but the engine was never used in any of its cars. V6 engines wouldn't find their way to mass market cars until the 1950s. General Motors designed a V6 engine with a 5 liter displacement for inclusion in some of its pick-up trucks for the 1959 model year.
In 1962, the Buick LeSabre became the first American production car to use a V6 engine. The engine was a 3.2 liter version of Buick's 3.5 liter V8, which was also offered in higher trim levels of the LeSabre. Soon other automakers were capitalizing on Buick's success and offering V6 engines in a number of new and existing models.

Basic Design

Like all V engine designs, the V6 uses a single crankcase with two banks of cylinders attached. A common crankshaft is driven by all six cylinders. V6 engines are measured in terms of the angle at which the cylinders oppose one another. Many V6 engines use a 90-degree mount, while others use an acute angle for a more compact design. Since each side of a V6 contains an odd number of cylinders, the engine is not naturally balanced (while two cylinders fire on one side of the engine, only one cylinder fires in the opposing bank). Most V6 engines include a balance shaft to provide smoother operation.
In cases where the engine is located at the front of the car, it can be positioned differently to provide front- or rear-wheel drive to the vehicle. For front-wheel drive, the V6 is mounted in a transverse manner, perpendicular to the length of the car. A longitudal mount, with the engine parallel to the length of the car, is used for rear-wheel drive.


Read more: http://www.ehow.com/about_5245065_v6-engine-information.html#ixzz2aeyKPEb5

Re: V6 And V4 by Raymee(m): 4:19pm On Jan 16, 2016
Areaboy2:


are nigerians running away from V6?,  i don't think so my good man,  that is only true with the babyboy V6,  and we all know the reason why the gearbox is so crappy,  but give me a toks babyboy V6 and i'll use it for  5 years with no problem at all,  it all falls down to driving style and regular maint,  don't stress your gearbox, all in the name of showing off your cars ability to accelerate, superior information here, I must admit.



back to V6 toyota and V6 honda,  which is better??  hmmm,  hard to choose,

new honda and toyota now come with i-vtec, vti vtec, and vvti

Vtec - valve timing electronically controlled,  or more accurately "Variable valve timing and electronic lift control"
Vvti - Variable valve timing inteligence,  or more accurately "Variable valve timing with Inteligence"

i-vtec  - Intelligent v-tec,

that behind us, let me give u a rule of thumb,

vtec -  power
vvti - fuel economy


in terms of power, the vtec craps all over the vvti,  however these days, people are more drawn to fuel economy,

your last question is pretty ambiguous. faulty V6 = total engine change

so if i have a bad piston/rings i have to change my entire engine??
or if i have a problem with my injector, i change entire engine

mbaa nu,  it is not like that *with a strong igbo accent* hehehe, 

anyway,  what year is the avalon? anything after 2004 should be great,  condem him for what,  the bastards are just hating,  becuase its not a popular car,  listen my good man,  which ever car you get it all comes down to

20% initial luck on getting a car in good condition
10% in driving style
5% road condition
65% regular maintenance,

so care for your car guys,  and your car will serve you until u want no more of it,

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