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| Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 4:36pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Mecca under threat: Outrage at plan to destroy the ‘birthplace’ of the Prophet Mohamed and replace it with a new palace and luxury malls  According to the Gulf Institute, up to 95 per cent of the holy city’s millennium-old buildings have been destroyed Andrew Johnson Wednesday 12 November 2014 The site in Mecca where the Prophet Mohamed is said to have been born is about to be “buried under marble” and replaced by a huge royal palace. The work is part of a multibillion-pound construction project in the holy city which has already resulted in the destruction of hundreds of historic monuments. The project, which began several years ago, aims to expand the al-Masjid al-Haram, or the Grand Mosque, to cater for the millions of pilgrims who make their way to the holy city each year for the Hajj, the pilgrimage to Mecca that all Muslims are obliged to make at least once. Mecca is the holiest city in Islam because of its link to the birth of the Prophet, and because it is the site of the Kaaba, a cube-shaped building made from black granite and said to have been built by Abraham. The Grand Mosque is built around it, and Muslims face towards it when they pray. Many have looked on aghast at the destruction of hundreds of historic buildings and monuments to make way for the Grand Mosque’s expansion. According to the Gulf Institute, based in Washington, up to 95 per cent of Mecca’s millennium-old buildings have been destroyed, to be replaced with luxury hotels, apartments and shopping malls. Last week, the remaining 500-year-old Ottoman columns, commemorating the Prophet’s ascent to heaven, were destroyed, Dr Irfan Alawi of the UK-based Islamic Heritage Research Foundation, told The Independent. He said that the House of Mawlid, thought to be where the Prophet was born in AD570, is likely to be destroyed before the end of the year. The new royal palace is to be built for King Abdullah, the formal custodian of the mosque, for his visits to Mecca. Plans for the building, seen by The Independent, include the site of the House of Mawlid, which has recently been closed to pilgrims. The plans have been verified by an independent source who added that many critics of the construction process are unwilling to speak publicly for fear of being punished by the regime. Saudi Arabia is ruled by the strict Wahhabi version of Islam, which prohibits the worship of any object or “saint”, a practice considered “shirq”, or idolatrous. The destruction of historic sites was defended recently by Saudi Arabia’s Grand Mufti, Sheikh Abdul Aziz Bin Abdullah al-Sheikh. According to Press TV, Iran’s English-language news organisation, he said the demolitions were necessary and that the nation should thank the government for the work, which is increasing the capacity of the mosque. The rooms of the House of Mawlid are under the ground, and in 1951 a library was built over them to preserve them. This has now been closed to pilgrims. Signs on the building warn worshippers against praying. “There is no proof that Prophet Mohamed (peace be upon him) was born in this place, so it is forbidden to make this place specific for praying, supplicating or get blessing [sic],” it says. Dr Alawi, one of the few voices to publicly oppose the destruction, claimed that religious police are posted outside the library to prevent worshipping. “The site of the Prophet’s birthplace has again come under imminent threat of being permanently forgotten under concrete and marble,” Dr Alawi told The Independent. “Now that Hajj is finished, the 24-hour construction work has started again. They have finished the expansion on one side of the mosque. The royal palace, which will be five times bigger than the current royal palace, is to be built into the side of a mountain and will overlook the mosque. “Between now and December the library and the rooms of the House of Mawlid are likely be built over. It’s inevitable that it will happen. “It will be history. It will be gone. We are saying, ‘Let us excavate that house and preserve these rooms that are still there’.” In September The Independent revealed that even the tomb of the Prophet – which is in the holy city of Medina in the al-Masjid al-Nawabi mosque – was not off-limits for some hardline Wahhabis. The article, which revealed that calls for the removal of the tomb had been made in a 61-page consultation document, caused an outcry in the Middle East, and forced a denial from the Saudi authorities, who had previously refused to comment on the construction works. Details of that plan, obtained by a leading Saudi academic, Dr Ali bin Abdulaziz al-Shabal of Imam Muhammad ibn Saud Islamic University in Riyadh, were circulated to the Committee of the Presidency of the Two Mosques. Several pages of the consultation document were published in the presidency’s journal. The Independent has made numerous attempts to contact the Saudi authorities for a comment without success. However, in a previous statement the authorities said: “The development of the Holy Mosque of Makkah al-Mukarramah [Mecca] is an extremely important subject and one which the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia, in its capacity as custodian of the two holy mosques, takes with the utmost seriousness. This role is at the heart of the principles upon which Saudi Arabia is founded.” http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-under-threat-outrage-at-plan-to-destroy-the-birthplace-of-the-prophet-mohamed-and-replace-it-with-a-new-palace-and-luxury-malls-9857098.html |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by tbaba1234: 4:41pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
2011- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/mecca-for-the-rich-islams-holiest-site-turning-into-vegas-2360114.html - 2012- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/medina-saudis-take-a-bulldozer-to-islams-history-8228795.html 2013- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/the-photos-saudi-arabia-doesnt-want-seen--and-proof-islams-most-holy-relics-are-being-demolished-in-mecca-8536968.html 2014- http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/saudis-risk-new-muslim-division-with-proposal-to-move-mohameds-tomb-9705120.html Ok, thanks. Same paper, same garbage. 2 Likes 1 Share |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 4:43pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
tbaba1234: the same denial, the same rubbish. it is until the Wahhabis demolish the Ka'bah before you'd admit and wake up from your slumber. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by vedaxcool(m): 5:47pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Lol some people seem more interested in tourism than hajj! 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 6:39pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
vedaxcool: preserving Islamic heritage has nothing to do with tourism. it has to do with preserving our Islamic identity, symbols, and history for posterity. actually, the contrary is true. demolishing Islamic sites to build malls, luxury hotels and royal places have to do with tourism! and of course, there is also destroying ancient sites to build car parks, and tuning the house of the Prophet (sa) into a public toilet under the guise of "expanding the holy mosque", and eliminating "shirk"/"idolatry" (based on Wahhabi misinterpretations). the peak of disrespect and foolery. 2 Likes |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by vedaxcool(m): 7:05pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
LagosShia: Bros, repeating same old gabage u read from independent despite the fact that u vanished like dust in the last thread in which independent was shown to be parroting falsehood, clearly shows the level of ur honesty. Remember in ur last thread in which u cited independent, it was shown that independent simply publish tales that were absolutely false! Did u learn any lesson from thaba's schooling and showing u why rushing to post bad stories of muslims u hate is bad? Everyone knows that the Saudi efforts in expanding the holy sites has made it possible for many muslims to participate in the hajj yearly and that simply remains their intention! |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by Nobody: 7:47pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
What is the significance of keeping the birthplace of the Prophet (saw) intact? Muslims need to go to hajj in ever increasing numbers. If bulldozing some intervening building is the answer, by all means, bulldoze. LagosShia: The Kaaba was attested to by the prophet (saw) as a place of worship. The house where he was born wasn't. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by sino(m): 9:04pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
tbaba1234:Interesting, why is it the same independent all the time?! LagosShia no other sources for your info? and hypothetically speaking, if indeed saudis destroy these sites, what does it take away from Islam as a religion? just wondering... |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 9:06pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
vedaxcool: the independent, as admitted in this report, pointed to a leaked document that was circulating in the hands of saudi wahhabi scholars about moving the tomb of the Prophet (sa). aside, i am no lawyer for the independent. besides, it doesn't mean, even if we are to assume for argument sake, that once a newspaper reports wrong information once we should therefore disregard whatsoever it subsequently reports. to me, the independent is not a divinely revealed book. moreover, there are many passages in the Bible we do not buy and we reject, yet, that doesn't stop you from quoting the verses that support Islam. does that make you/us Muslims hypocrites as the Christians would like to make it appear? you cannot judge the intentions of others. actions speak louder than words. how does demolishing an historical site to build a royal palace contribute to "expansion" of Masjidul Haram?  1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 9:14pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
sino: Abuamam: of course, this goes to show that in the aqeedah of the Wahhabis and their victims, the Prophet (sa) and his family (as) have no sanctity at all. this is ever more so obvious because Allah (swt) has blinded your hearts. where is the sanctity for the houses of the Prophet (sa) which the Holy Qur'an obliges us to observe? "O you who have believed, do not enter the houses of the Prophet except when you are permitted for a meal, without awaiting its readiness. But when you are invited, then enter; and when you have eaten, disperse without seeking to remain for conversation. Indeed, that [behavior] was troubling the Prophet, and he is shy of [dismissing] you. But Allah is not shy of the truth. And when you ask [his wives] for something, ask them from behind a partition. That is purer for your hearts and their hearts. And it is not [conceivable or lawful] for you to harm the Messenger of Allah or to marry his wives after him, ever. Indeed, that would be in the sight of Allah an enormity." (33:53) did you seek the permission of the Prophet (sa) before destroying his house? who gave al-saud the authority to move a stone in Makkah and Madinah? yes, you would say the Prophet (sa) is no longer with us, and he cannot be sought for permission. so then why do you not leave his house alone? is demolishing his house what the below verse asks us of respect to show the Prophet (sa)? "Indeed, We have sent you as a witness and a bringer of good tidings and a warner. That you [people] may believe in Allah and His Messenger and honor him and respect the Prophet and exalt Allah morning and afternoon." (48:8-9) “ًWhoever exalts the symbols of Allah, then that is from piety of the hearts” (Quran 22:32) 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by sino(m): 9:33pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
LagosShia:Ogbeni cool down, I purposely underlined "HYPOTHETICALLY" in my post, and you have not really answered my question. Anyways, before painting me as a wahabi/salafist and what have you, there is no substantial proof that saudi is indeed leveling the Prophet's birth place, and from the antecedent of the source you continually quote, it shows they are biased and not being truthful. Do i think the prophet's (SAW) house should be leveled for any reason? NO! I only asked a question, in regards to the significance of the birthplace of the Prophet (SAW) to Islam as a religion. Do we stop being Muslims cos the birthplace of the Prophet (SAW) was destroyed?! |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by tbaba1234: 9:42pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
sino: https://www.nairaland.com/1884467/attack-prophet-mohameds-sa-tomb#26026875 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by sino(m): 9:51pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
tbaba1234: Jazakumullahu Khayran for this info again bro, LagosShia, should stop reading the independent again o! Look for a credible source abeg. 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by Nobody: 10:09pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
LagosShia: Lol. This verse of the Qur'an has nothing whatsoever to do with the sanctity of the building or the land it stands on. You are grasping at straws and I think you know it. I repeat, it is an empty building. No prophets live in it. No narrations tell us it is holy. Our religion does not teach us to preserve it. Call it wahhabi, salafi, ibadi anything you like. This is the real Islam. BTW, demolishing the house is not disrespecting the prophet. Calling his pious wives (who are our mothers- well the believers' mothers anyway), and beloved companions unprintable names is utmost disrespect. Maybe you should concentrate on eradicating that. 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 11:31pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Abuamam: The Qur'anic verse obliges us to respect the house of the Prophet (sa). what else do you want? i am sure you never had in mind this verse exist in the Holy Quran. where the Prophet (sa) was born is the Prophet's (sa) house, the house of his father, the house of his grandfather. respect that. it being empty doesn't give you a license to trespass. you have to start understanding that the era whereby you practice Islam and aim to shove down the throats of others your own (mis)interpretations is over. Islam isnt your father's property for you to tell other Muslims what is "real Islam", and worse, to tell them who is a "believer" and who isn't. calling a rebellious wife of the Prophet (sa) an unbeliever (as per Surat Tahrim) what she really was, and separating the wheat from the chaff among the sahaba are what i believe to be "real Islam". those "sahaba" who oppressed the Ahlul-Bayt (as) are not worthy of the title of "sahaba". if you have any regards for the Prophet (sa), you would care about the fate that befell his Ahlul-Bayt (as) because the Prophet (sa) declared: "i admonish you on my Ahlul-Bayt (as), and how you will treat them after me". you are destroying historical sites that one day would come back to haunt you. do not be surprised that after the Wahhabis have erased the history of Islam in Makkah and Madinah, one day the future generations would question and doubt if Muhammad (sa) ever existed like it has happened with other prophets!!! |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 11:34pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
sino: what are you "jazakumullahu khayran" for him? the independent reported about a "proposal". whether the saudis really considered putting that proposal into action by moving the Prophet's (sa) tomb or not, that idea conceived by whosoever was an evil thought inspired by shaytan. bad mouthing the independent because the report was only based on a conceived idea that was not to be put into action does not really make a difference, and does not warrant denying the report itself and only to admit it was a conceived idea by the wahhabis. no need for dishonest denial. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 11:39pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
sino: you should perhaps just review the link tbaba presented to see the replies for yourself. the Wahhabis are fond of destroying Islamic sites. did they not ransack Karbala and Najaf and committed massacres? did they, of recently, not destroy Timbuktu? did they not dug in Syria the grave of a sahabi and exhumed his corpse? did they not blow up the Askariyyah mosque in Iraq? you should be worried about the precedence of confusion and misinterpretations Wahhabis have praticed, rather than the report of a newspaper which is not wrong.
of course, we would'nt. but since your answer is NO!, then you should see how canny and dishonest others are in justifying this act of disrespect towards the Prophet's (sa) memory by using the "expansion" of masjidul haram as excuse. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 11:45pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
while tbaba is busy criticizing the independent UK newspaper, and presenting evidence against himself from the other thread, because the independent exposed a proposal by saudi wahhabis to move the Prophet's (sa) tomb, look at the dishonest explanation in the below, and the dishonest method of denial by admitting the report of the independent is true while the denying it at the same time becasue the saudi wahhabis haven't put the proposal to work (of course the below was possibly written by Yasir Qadhi, tbaba's favorite, before his awakening to the reality and his shocking words on Press TV) : tbaba1234: |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by Nobody: 11:49pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
LagosShia: Yeah yeah yeah. Continue repeating it. Maybe some people might believe your analogy LagosShia: Did not tell anyone who is a believer and who is not. Allah told us that the prophet's wives are the believers' mothers. If you feel that it excludes you, then that is your cup of milo. As for saying that following the path of the prophet (saw) and his companions and practising the tenets of monotheism, being the real Islam, I did not bring the idea. Prophet Muhammad (saw) did. LagosShia: Aha, the curtain of Taqiyyah lifted. I thought calling the mother of the believers (may Allah increase her blessings as the prophet's most beloved person) an unbeliever would have fallen under your Sistani's prohibition of name calling. Or is that news wrong? LagosShia: I do not know any muslim who accepted Islam just because he took a look at a historical site. So by keeping the place, whenever future generations doubt, we take them to an empty room and say "look, he was born here" and they all go "oooh that just proves it, now we totally believe"? |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 11:58pm On Nov 13, 2014 |
Abuamam:"If you two [wives, i.e. Aisha and Hafsa] repent to Allah , [it is best], for your hearts have deviated (from faith). But if you cooperate against him - then indeed Allah is his protector, and Gabriel and the righteous of the believers and the angels, moreover, are [his] assistants. Perhaps his Lord, if he divorced you [all], would substitute for him wives better than you - submitting to Allah (i.e. Muslims), believing, devoutly obedient, repentant, worshipping, and traveling - [ones] previously married and virgins." (66:4-5) common sense and every reasonable tafsir one would read dictate that the term "better than you" means Aisha and Hafsa lacked the qualities the substitutes are stated would have, that make them"better" than the two. the substitutes cannot be "better than" Aisha by being "muslim" and "believers" if indeed Aisha was herself a "muslim" and a "believer" as per the verse. of course, after being exposed, you want to think you can succeed in pulling a scarecrow that there is a Shia who is "insulting" your "mothers of the believers". do you also tell others of the mothers of the believers we Shia honor and love so much?
do you want us to deny the words of the Quran which implicitly called her an "unbeliever" in surat tahreem? name calling and insult is showing disrespect through vulgar words with the aim to defame. indeed, insulting even a kafir is haram. so what taqiyyah is your imagination of ignorance making you to bite your tongue on?
of course that is the mind of a foolish wahhabi. when Muslims use archaeology to preach and cite the miraculous discovery of the ancient city of pillars, Iram, isnt that in a bid to spread islam? if left to wahhabis, they would have demolished the remains of Iram which point to the veracity of the Holy Quran. you do not know any who have converted to islam from looking at ancient sites, does mean no one exist. Laura Booth, in law of tony blair, converted to islam after visiting Qom. preserving historical sites is preserving our Islamic identity. you can play with words all you like. were you not justifying the insult by disguising the move as part of "expanding" the masjidul haram? how does building a royal palace for one tyrant calling himself king amount to expansion of masjidul haram? |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by Nobody: 12:10am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Of course if some groups of ignorant historical and shrine worshippers should start crawling to Iram for blessing, then they will need to level them, as Ali bin abi Talib (RA) was sent to level graves and shrines. Enough. To you is your faith and to me is mine. Goodnight to you. You may have your usual last word of course. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by AlBaqir(m): 12:16am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Absolutely there might not be concrete evidence available that the news by The Independent is true. Likewise you also got nothing to prove the news is false either other than judging The Independent for repeating same old news every year. However, Saudi Government had proven in the past to be more than capable of this allegation. tbaba1234: sino: Qur'an warns: "O ye who believe! Violate not the sanctity of the symbols of God..." What are these symbols of God? What makes them "sacred"? What importance are we to derive from them? Quran and ahadith made mention of some of these "symbols of God". Imagine how precious and sacred the "table of food (al-Maidah)" sent down from heavens for the Children of Israil under the supervision of Nabi E'esa (as) was for the Israelite. According to Qur'an, that day of happening became an E'ed and celebrated from the first to the last of them. By default, this table and day became "symbol of God" and "Ayam Allah (Days of Allah)". All these sites (demolished and about to be demolished b the Saudis) are heritage of Islam. What you derive from these (symbols and days) spiritually, mentally, is immense. There are testimonies! Abuamam: Only about 2 - 4 millions go yearly for Hajj. How congested is Masjid al-Haram not to accommodate to the extent that other historical places needs to be demolished? Last year, 15million people went for Ziyarat in Karbala for Ashura. This year over 20million were reported. I believe all these demolitions have nothing to do with expansion. Its simply a practice of an ideology. Ideology - Look familiar “It is not that uncommon to get a small piece of the cloth of the Ka‘bah. There is nothing that is blessed about the cloth of the Ka‘bah. The stones of the Ka‘bah are not even blessed. Only al-Hajar al-aswad is blessed. We are not polytheists and pagans and idol worshippers. The Ka‘bah itself is not holy. It is the area and land and environment that is holy but not the physical structure.” ~“The Light of Guidance: The Fundamentals of Faith 101″ By Yasir al-Qadhi (Al-Maghrib Institute ) Even from the Memory lane "Umar while visiting the Kaba, said before the Hajar al-aswad, “You cannot do anything! But I kiss you in order to follow Rasulullah (‘alaihi ‘s-salam).” ‘Ali said upon hearing this, “Rasulullah (saw) said, ‘On the Day of Judgment, the Hajar al-aswad will intercede for people.’” ~Kanzul ‘Amal, by Muttaqi al-Hindi, fil Fadhail-e- Mecca (The number of this hadith is 12521 in “Al-Muhadith Software) Narrated Zaid bin Aslam that his father said: "I saw ‘Umar bin Al-Khattab kissing the Black Stone and he then said, (to it) ‘Had I not seen Allah’s Apostle kissing you, (stone) I WOULD NOT HAVE KISSED YOU.’" ~Sahih al-Bukhari, Volume 2, Book 26, Number 679) Abuamam: Even common sense should tell the "Birthplace" of the holy prophet Muhammad (peace be on him and his household), mercy to the universe, is as sacred as his "Resting place (Grave)". I wonder if the prophet's wives after the demise of their husband, as reported by Sahih Bukhari and Muslim, could kept his strand of hair, clothe etc and put these "relics" inside water and used it to cure various types of illness, I bet his birthplace was held in high esteem during his life-time and after his demise until these alien ideology. Abuamam: It is regrettable though that some so-called followers of the Imams of the Ahl al-Bayti Rasul stoop so low by abusing and cursing some of the wives of the prophet. These are done by their reliance on handfuls ahadith which have no basis whatsoever. No doubt some of the crimes committed by these wives were attested to by the Qur'an, sahih hadith and history. But these never translate to abusing and cursing them. It is an insult unto the prophet (peace be on him and his household). After all, he had capability to divorce them yet he did not. Likewise after the battle of Jamal when 'Aisha was defeated, one of the soldier of Imam 'Ali (as) suggested she ('Aisha) should be enslaved. Imam 'Ali rebuked him and said: "Can you enslave your mother?". Despite her deep hatred towards the Imam, she was treated with utmost respect by Imam and sent back to Madina where she was ordered by Allah to remain. However, I think you should worry more of how those ideology of "Muhammad is just a man like you...you can't use his name to intercede from God! He is long dead, he cannot hear you and of course, this demolition mission of a thing". Wa Salam alaykum brethren. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 12:16am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Abuamam: when you know the difference between grave worship and grave visitation which is a prophetic sunnah, then i would join you in leveling any grave or historical site that is used for worship. until then, enjoy your ignorance. like they say, "ignorance is bliss". likewise, when you differentiate between the disbelievers the early Muslims are told to fight in the Quran because those disbelievers were the aggressors against Muslims, and innocent disbelievers who have committed no aggression, and realizing that it is not every disbeliever you go about butchering for having different beliefs than yours, then i can take you seriously. your interpretations are faulty. 1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by tbaba1234: 12:34am On Nov 14, 2014 |
LagosShia: Do you know how many proposals are submitted? The proposal are submitted and have to be examined by authorities. You are clutching at straws. That is nothing... What is this yasir qadhi 'favorite' stuff? That was a balanced interview. 2 Likes |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by AlBaqir(m): 12:39am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Abuamam: What an ideology! Sub'an'Allah! Qur'an advice: "Travel through the land..." There are testimonies of converts who share their spiritual and mental experience after visiting Islamic heritages. Ashabul kahf's final resting place became what according to Qur'an sura Kahf? The people that came after them preserve their resting place and turned it into a Mosque. Everything about Hajj is historical of Nabi Ibrahim, Nabi Ismail and Sayyida Hajara. Why do you then find it difficult to protect and preserve your prophet's heritage? This is common sense bro. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by tbaba1234: 12:45am On Nov 14, 2014 |
Until, there is evidence of anything other than the repetitive, recycled, unreliable independent articles. This is not worth commenting on. 2 Likes |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by AlBaqir(m): 12:46am On Nov 14, 2014 |
LagosShia: Ma sha Allah akhi. That's quite philosophical. I like that  1 Like |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 5:23pm On Nov 16, 2014 |
AlBaqir: thanks brother! |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by LagosShia: 10:23am On Nov 17, 2014 |
since our beloved tbaba have a problem with the Independent newspaper, in the subsequent posts are three articles from Time, New York Times, and The American Muslim (TAM)-a most likely Sunni organization- all reporting on the destruction of Makkah by the Wahhabi al-Saud family. |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by ShiaMuslim: 10:33am On Nov 17, 2014 |
Time: Saudi Arabia Bulldozes Over Its Heritage https://time.com/3584585/saudi-arabia-bulldozes-over-its-heritage/ The American Muslim (TAM) : Saudi Destruction of Muslim Historical Sites http://theamericanmuslim.org/tam.php/features/articles/saudi_destruction_of_muslim_historical_sites1/009121 New York Times: The Destruction of Mecca http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/01/opinion/the-destruction-of-mecca.html?_r=0 why does tbaba turn a blind eye to the destruction of Jannatul-Baqi and Jannatul-Mualla that has already taken place? |
| Re: Mecca Under Threat: Outrage At Plan To Destroy The ‘birthplace’ Of The Prophet by AlBaqir(m): 5:30pm On Nov 17, 2014 |
LagosShia: Thanks. |
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