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If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:01pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
John 1:1 " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God " Simple. No argument. In the beginning Jesus was. Jesus was with God. In fact, Jesus was God... But wait, how I'm I sure that the "word" there refers to Jesus? Some Zealots may ask... It's simple too, just read verse 14: " 14 And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us..." The Word (God) was made flesh (the person of Jesus) and dwelt among them... us? ![]() Not satisfied? 1 Tim 3:16 "16 And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh, justified in the Spirit, seen of angels, preached unto the Gentiles, believed on in the world, received up into glory." Dig that yourself. SO If Jesus is God that means that: >> Those who were with Jesus or those who lived during the time of Jesus actually saw God and were not harmed when the Bible says, "no man can see God and live" Exo 33:20.. Mehnn those guys were the 'eruku' of their time. Even Jesus himself once told those folks that, "no man has seen God" John 1:18 Smh. >> That God Himself came to die for the sins of the world according to the above 1 Tim 3:16. Remember, Jesus is the Lamb of God. He also offered Himself as a sacrifice for sin to please God. If, then, Jesus is God, God offered Himself as a sacrifice for sin to please Himself. And I thought God wasn't a Joker. >>That God was sometime mortal. He died and resurrected after 3 days inactivity in Hell (some say Hades) >>That God was tempted by Satan. Satan took God to a high mountain, showed God all the kingdoms on earth and even asked God to bow down to him. God and our president have something in common. >>That God was baptized by man ( John The Baptist) >>That God displayed a little insaninty by calling on Himself on the cross when He was about comitting His Spirit to Himself. >>That there was a time when God was not ALL POWERFUL, because He was once spat on, beaten, slapped, struck, pierced and finally nailed on the cross by... man. . . . . . . . . . add yours ![]() 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 7:28pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Get your fact right about the teaching of trinity, before you come here to spew gibberish you know nothing about. Trinity teaches that Jesus is God but not same as God the father. Stop mixing it to suit your dubiousness. Jesus is God the son. Yahweh is God the father. Ruach ha kodesh is God the holyspirit. God is a general name used in referring father, son and holyspirit and that made them one God but different entity. There's no way God the father used himself whom you're referring as son for a sacrifice. God the father is different from Son and holyspirit. Smh |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:34pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
And you get the message in John 1:1? FrancisTony: " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God " Not " and the word was God the Son " Waiting for another punch ![]() 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 7:39pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton: 1)In the beginning was the word- In the beginning was Jesus. 2) and the word was with God- and Jesus was with his father(God the father) 3) and the word was God- and Jesus is also God same as father but different entity(check my number2 explanation to know about their different in nature) ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Jesus Is God by phe44u(m): 7:41pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
bro try to understand the scripture before you post anything ,let me ask you what do you understand by word Trinity? |
Re: If Jesus Is God by malvisguy212: 7:43pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton:a spirit walk in the realm of human, indwelt in a flash, all men we see it, but you cant see the spirit. |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:47pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: I insist that there is no other 'writings' in John 1:1 expect this: " In the beginning was the word, and the word was with God, and the word was God " So your assertions aint valid bro ![]() 1 Like |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:52pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
phe44u: Trinity? 3 entities working as one... |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 7:53pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton: I never re-wrote bible. I only explained it for you. Keep being recalcitrant. I'm done with you. ![]() Proudly a ![]() ![]() |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:56pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Then the flesh was what was sacrificed and not the real being... and that's no sacrifice at all |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Rilwayne001: 7:56pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Nope |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 7:57pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: My own Holy Spirit is different from yours fah ![]() |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Rilwayne001: 7:58pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: I don't get you here |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 8:01pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Re: If Jesus Is God by malvisguy212: 8:01pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton:The construction of the Trinity is, therefore, quite simple. God is three persons, but one essence. The word "Trinity" does not appear anywhere in the Bible. For this reason, many people think that it is a false doctrine, created by the early church leaders. However, the word "gravity" is also not used anywhere in the Bible, although the concept is illustrated throughout. Despite all the protests, the doctrine of the Trinity is the overarching theme throughout the entire Bible. The plurality of God is found throughout the Old and New Testaments. This plurality is not an open-ended proposition. The Godhead consists of exactly three persons—God the Father, God the Son (Jesus Christ) and God the Holy Spirit. The Bible makes it abundantly clear that God exists as God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit. However, these three persons are not three separate gods, but One God. This Trinitarian concept of God might seem to be contradictory from a human standpoint, but is perfectly logical from God's extradimensional existence. Anti- Trinitarian heresies either elevate humans to the level of God or demote one or more persons of the Godhead to non-God status. Don't fall into one of those traps! "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit" (Matthew 28:19) |
Re: If Jesus Is God by malvisguy212: 8:07pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton:can you sacrifice(kill) a spirit? |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Rilwayne001: 8:07pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 8:07pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Malvisguy212 Copy and paste without source. Lol I don't think you're getting OP. He's not doubting trinity. He's only using it to dissaprove God existence. Smh |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:12pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Nope |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:15pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: If the Bible does not teach it why should you teach it? ![]() |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Rilwayne001: 8:16pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: ![]() ![]() ![]() You notice the guy too? He do his copy/paste without even reading em ![]() LMAO |
Re: If Jesus Is God by malvisguy212: 8:19pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton:that why jesus need to dwelt in the flash to die for our sin. |
Re: If Jesus Is God by malvisguy212: 8:23pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Pr0ton:the bible make reference of the Godhead (Trinity) through out the old testament and new testament, the bible never say the word gravity it was illustrated in the bible, dos that mean we should'nt believe in gravity? |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Nobody: 8:27pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Rilwayne001: lol. It's more like OP was/is pointing out contradictions in the bible. |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Maamin(m): 8:29pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
FrancisTony: |
Re: If Jesus Is God by herald9: 8:32pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
mtcheeeew |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:34pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: Wait... Tell me how gravity is taught in the Bible |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Maamin(m): 8:39pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Ruach haKadosh (spirit of holiness) better yet holy spirit This is my first comment,lol. See Actually am delighted to have finally made up my mind to join NL,i have been on the sidelines for about four years now,lol... I am a 'Ma'amin' (believer). #grab a bucket of popcorn. Oya! Lets ride on!! |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:42pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
malvisguy212: So then it was Jesus who died for our sins, huh? |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:45pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Maamin(m): 8:53pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Re: If Jesus Is God by Pr0ton: 8:55pm On Nov 21, 2014 |
Maamin: And Jesus is God, right? |
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