Jihadist in somalia had down a kenya fighter jet vows to down more source aljazeera news

hmmmm

Jezus!!!! source or adonbilivit!

Lord have mercy!

Ol'boy. I just hope they won't shoot down a passenger plane.

IF THIS IS TRUE THEN KENYA IS IN FOR A LONG BATTLE

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Kenya don enter our league, na waw o

Okay.

They said they don't want to be like Nigeria. Seems their case is getting worse.

-Kenya DOD have said the jet crashed after technical glitches, but they would soon explain....

-Alshabaab said they shot the jet with a shoulder missile; If this is true, they must have aquired it recently since they have never shot a Kenyan Plane b4 with a missile.

If its true they acquired missiles, it also makes the rumour that they might have smuggled in Sarin Nerve Gas from Syria close to be a fact!!! Sarin Gas is the most deadly nerve gas, it killes within hours!!! We are definately in for the long haul,
I think soon enough Kenya Army will just have to drop some bunker busters and enaolate the whole areas that alshabbab are know to hide, regadles of concerns for colateral damage...... Because Somalia Government is not even taking strides to control areas already liberated by Amisom, They have been accused of eatin the money given to them for their development, now they are fighting politics in parliament and they want to vote a vote of no confidence against there prime minister.... in short they are lost in their cause!!! God Help us all

But here is a more realistic article: http://www.intelligencebriefs.com/kenya-f5-airforce-jet-crashes-in-kismayu-somalia/

abeg make kenyans deal with these guys oo.. before dem reach boko level.

denisfidha:
-Kenya DOD have said the jet crashed after technical glitches, but they would soon explain....
-Alshabaab said they shot the jet with a shoulder missile; If this is true, they must have aquired it recently since they have never shot a Kenyan Plane b4 with a missile.
If its true they acquired missiles, it also makes the rumour that they might have smuggled in Sarin Nerve Gas from Syria close to be a fact!!! Sarin Gas is the most deadly nerve gas, it killes within hours!!! We are definately in for the long haul,
I think soon enough Kenya Army will just have to drop some bunker busters and enaolate the whole areas that alshabbab are know to hide, regadles of concerns for colateral damage...... Because Somalia Government is not even taking strides to control areas already liberated by Amisom, They have been accused of eatin the money given to them for their development, now they are fighting politics in parliament and they want to vote a vote of no confidence against there prime minister.... in short they are lost in their cause!!! God Help us all

Liberated by Amisom you know lol... Without the Somali National Army, Amisom would have still been hiding between Villa Somalia and the airport while collecting their generous monthly paycheques. They would have continued firing missiles in every direction possible due to the panic attacks they get when Alshabab strikes. AU/Amisom has been in the country since 2006 yet they only started to gain territory when Pres. Mohamoud was elected in late 2011. Before that Clan militias either fought Alshabab or signed peace agreements with them, it was every man for himself.

Although it's prone to corruption, the Somali government has been rebuilding local councils and states, hence why we've seen the birth of Jubaland, South West State and an expanded version of Galmudug state. It is a clever move by the government, considering how clannish the Somali people are, they know they will rally behind their own. Turning the civilians against the occupying terrorist forces has already paid off in parts of Gedo, Bay and Shabelle. I wouldn't call that nothing.

ArtanK:


Liberated by Amisom you know lol... Without the Somali National Army, Amisom would have still been hiding between Villa Somalia and the airport while collecting their generous monthly paycheques. They would have continued firing missiles in every direction possible due to the panic attacks they get when Alshabab strikes. AU/Amisom has been in the country since 2006 yet they only started to gain territory when Pres. Mohamoud was elected in late 2011. Before that Clan militias either fought Alshabab or signed peace agreements with them, it was every man for himself.

Although it's prone to corruption, the Somali government has been rebuilding local councils and states, hence why we've seen the birth of Jubaland, South West State and an expanded version of Galmudug state. It is a clever move by the government, considering how clannish the Somali people are, they know they will rally behind their own. Turning the civilians against the occupying terrorist forces has already paid off in parts of Gedo, Bay and Shabelle. I wouldn't call that nothing.

There is no denying that Somali National army has been at the forefront in fighting alshabaab, they've certainly done some great work,( under the help of Amisom) . But SNA doesnot have the numbers or the capability to guard and control all places that are free of alshabaab, the still depend on Amisom forces to complement them, If the SNA were given all the tanks and amoured vehicles and everything that Amisom uses, then maybe we will talk of a different situation...

Amisom/Uganda went to Mogadishu so that they can create a space so that the somali government can be headquartered in Mogadishu. they went as a peace keeping force for the initial years and they only ocupied the areas around the airport and the villa and were no authorised to go on an offensive,,,, they were only supposed to defend themselves against attacks from alshabaab. and they lost alot of soldiers doing that. when the president was elected , Ugandas mandate was changed from a peace keeping force to an offensive force and together with SNA, they began retaking back Mogadishu so that the government can begin to operate and take back contol of the country.

ArtanK:


Liberated by Amisom you know lol... Without the Somali National Army, Amisom would have still been hiding between Villa Somalia and the airport while collecting their generous monthly paycheques. They would have continued firing missiles in every direction possible due to the panic attacks they get when Alshabab strikes. AU/Amisom has been in the country since 2006 yet they only started to gain territory when Pres. Mohamoud was elected in late 2011. Before that Clan militias either fought Alshabab or signed peace agreements with them, it was every man for himself.

Although it's prone to corruption, the Somali government has been rebuilding local councils and states, hence why we've seen the birth of Jubaland, South West State and an expanded version of Galmudug state. It is a clever move by the government, considering how clannish the Somali people are, they know they will rally behind their own. Turning the civilians against the occupying terrorist forces has already paid off in parts of Gedo, Bay and Shabelle. I wouldn't call that nothing.

The Somali National Army was being beaten left right and centre by Al Shabaab before 2011,When Kenya arrived on the scene. The only reason Amisom was performing poorly prior to 2011was the small number of troops that had been commited Although a large number of nations had provided troops,most provided only 1 batallion and troop numbers were less than 8000.Today over 22,000 Amisom troops are present in Somalia which is why they have been able to capture more territory from Al Shabaab. Kenya's entry to Somalia provided the motivation for Amisom's expansion as it showed that an army,if well organised could beat Al Shabaab.At the same time,since then,Kenya's airforce and navy have acted as Amisom's air and naval power. Amisom continues to Expand(5 more nations are joining),more troops means more ground to cover.
And the Somali Government hardly has any power beyond Mogadishu.Jubaland for example is a de facto Independent entity ruled from Kismayu by Madobe and Co.with Kenyans pulling the strings .

denisfidha:


There is no denying that Somali National army has been at the forefront in fighting alshabaab, they've certainly done some great work,( under the help of Amisom) . But SNA doesnot have the numbers or the capability to guard and control all places that are free of alshabaab, the still depend on Amisom forces to complement them, If the SNA were given all the tanks and amoured vehicles and everything that Amisom uses, then maybe we will talk of a different situation...

Amisom/Uganda went to Mogadishu so that they can create a space so that the somali government can be headquartered in Mogadishu. they went as a peace keeping force for the initial years and they only ocupied the areas around the airport and the villa and were no authorised to go on an offensive,,,, they were only supposed to defend themselves against attacks from alshabaab. and they lost alot of soldiers doing that. when the president was elected , Ugandas mandate was changed from a peace keeping force to an offensive force and together with SNA, they began retaking back Mogadishu so that the government can begin to operate and take back contol of the country.

It's true that the SNA neither had the man power nor the military equipment to liberate whole regions from Alshabab but you have to bear in mind that there is/was an arms embargo preventing the SNA from acquiring weaponry and equipment that would make a huge difference in the fight against Alshabab.

While both forces are dependant on each other, I think it is illogical to completely attribute the recent victories to Amisom alone. The SNA are there fighting for their land and their efforts deserve some recognition too.

GERALD710:

The Somali National Army was being beaten left right and centre by Al Shabaab before 2011,When Kenya arrived on the scene. The only reason Amisom was performing poorly prior to 2011was the small number of troops that had been commited Although a large number of nations had provided troops,most provided only 1 batallion and troop numbers were less than 8000.Today over 22,000 Amisom troops are present in Somalia which is why they have been able to capture more territory from Al Shabaab. Kenya's entry to Somalia provided the motivation for Amisom's expansion as it showed that an army,if well organised could beat Al Shabaab.At the same time,since then,Kenya's airforce and navy have acted as Amisom's air and naval power. Amisom continues to Expand(5 more nations are joining),more troops means more ground to cover.
And the Somali Government hardly has any power beyond Mogadishu.Jubaland for example is a de facto Independent entity ruled from Kismayu by Madobe and Co.with Kenyans pulling the strings .

Before 2011, the SNA was almost a nonentity and most of the fighting was between local clan militias and Alshabab. When the SNA and Amisom forces gained ground, those clan militias were fully absorbed by the SNA and they were given the responsibility of safekeeping their own regions. There are over 15 000 Somali soldiers + thousands of other ethnic Somalis from Ethiopia and Djibouti guarding Hiiraan and Galgadud and they continue to push Alshabab out wherever they go.

Pres. Mohamoud and Madobe had problems over the process which Jubaland was created but they came to an agreement earlier this year and it is now a recognised federal state in Somalia. Kenya helped the Ogaden Ras Kamboni forces liberate Lower Juba and parts of Middle Juba because it as in their best interests. They couldn't let Alshabab roam freely just across the border because the inevitable terror attack from them would come sooner or later.

Alshabab,Boko Haram,IS,Alqaeda-30% of the world's problem.