londonbwoi:

i dont understand why people pray to saints who are just human beings in heaven. where in the bible did it tell us to pray to pray to a saint. Did Jesus Christ ever pray to any saint, no he only prayed to God not Elijah or Abraham. And why pray to someone else when we can speak directly to God. When i loose something i just simple say Holy Spirit please help me in Jesus name

why do you bother asking the holy spirit to help you and not just go look for it yourself?

rotimy:

None of the Saints is my favourite! I AM A CATHOLIC BUT I PRAY TO JESUS CHRIST not via any saint!
@ SEA-GODDES, How can you be talking about saints in heaven while your user name glorifies the evil spirit under the water? It's a pity and I will never take you serious. Is your true favourite saint, the mammy water?

Do u accept the teaching of the Church on the saints?
I am asking bcus u made ur statement as if u don't believe in intercessions by the saints.
If u don't accept it then u are not Catholic.

~Lady~:

Do u accept the teaching of the Church on the saints?
I am asking bcus u made ur statement as if u don't believe in intercessions by the saints.
If u don't accept it then u are not Catholic.

the thread is on one's favourite saint and not on belief in intercessions by the saint! one can believe in the teaching of the intercessions of the saint without having a favourite saint. it is not a must! identity of a true catholic does not lie on having any favourite saint or membership of jesuits, opue dei or any other group in the church. cradle catholics, ghetto catholics and post-vatican two catholics are miles apart but still in one church. that my lady, is the beauty and mystery of our church

rotimy:

the thread is on one's favourite saint and not on belief in intercessions by the saint! one can believe in the teaching of the intercessions of the saint without having a favourite saint. it is not a must! identity of a true catholic does not lie on having any favourite saint or membership of jesuits, opue dei or any other group in the church. cradle catholics, ghetto catholics and post-vatican two catholics are miles apart but still in one church. that my lady, is the beauty and mystery of our church

I understand that one may not have a favourite saint, I stated that already in my posts earlier, I am talking about you stressing the point that you are Catholic who prays to Jesus and not through any saint as if intercessions of the saint is wrong. I am not saying it is wrong to pray directly to Jesus afterall even while asking the saints to interceed for us we are praying to Jesus directly, the way you said it seems like you don't share that belief with the Church.

@ Lady. We thank God so much for the diversity of spirituality in our Church. I am always amazed whenever I pray with various groups that their prayers are fervent and powerful. But, I am also worried that some Catholics are stuck on few prayers to one saint or their other and hardly know the joy of spontanous prayers to Jesus Christ.

@ Pls we have to do 9 days novena to St. Jude{in charge of difficult cases} so that our sister will drop her username, SEA-GODDES. Though it her right and choice but I think a person that started a post like this should know the implication of giving the glory of God to Satan and his agent

rotimy:

@ Lady. We thank God so much for the diversity of spirituality in our Church. I am always amazed whenever I pray with various groups that their prayers are fervent and powerful. But, I am also worried that some Catholics are stuck on few prayers to one saint or their other and hardly know the joy of spontanous prayers to Jesus Christ.

@ Pls we have to do 9 days novena to St. Jude{in charge of difficult cases} so that our sister will drop her username, SEA-GODDES. Though it her right and choice but I think a person that started a post like this should know the implication of giving the glory of God to Satan and his agent

Statements like this is what gives people the idea that we don't pray to Jesus directly. Even Catholics are confused on the idea that asking a saint to pray for you is praying to Jesus also. That saint is praying with you as you pray, it's like having a big prayer group, only it includes trillions of people

The mass itself is a prayer and the ultimate prayer of all, it is the greatest prayer and is prayed everyday to the Blessed Trinity. So no Catholic who attends mass is stuck on praying to one saint. Also, not one person can do all the prayers we have in the Church, we have massive prayers. My recommendation to everyone is to find a devotion and stick to it. My prayers other than mass are the rosary and the Little office of the Blessed Virgin Mary. I have a devotion to her and that's it. I love Saint Monica as she is my patron saint and I do seek her help in prayer every now and then, but I have a very busy life, so sticking in time to pray every prayer I want to pray is really hard.

Even the rosary isn't compulsory, you can say the divine mercy chaplet, it's shorter and quicker. My point is just pick a devotion and stick to it. Lectio divina seems to be good too, my mind just wonders too much. haha.

The only compulsory prayer is the mass o. But it helps to find a devotion and stick to it. It doesn't have to be to Mary.

As for the 9 day novena, you are being redundant, novena means 9 anyway, so no need to add the 9 days in front. But to do a novena because seagoddess chose that name is ridiculous. You have no idea why she chose it, it doesn't imply that she is mammy water, and you are being rude to her. You owe her an apology in my opinion.

~Lady~:


As for the 9 day novena, you are being redundant, novena means 9 anyway, so no need to add the 9 days in front. But to do a novena because seagoddess chose that name is ridiculous. You have no idea why she chose it, it doesn't imply that she is mammy water, and you are being rude to her. You owe her an apology in my opinion.

Thanks for the clarifications but I totally disagree with you that I owe seagodess an apology or that I am being rude to her! Infact, she is the one that owe us, her brethren, an apology. And no explanation on her part will justify the name, seagoddess! It glorifies demons in the sea and she can't bear it and be talking about favourite saints in heaven.

rotimy:

Thanks for the clarifications but I totally disagree with you that I owe seagodess an apology or that I am being rude to her! Infact, she is the one that owe us, her brethren, an apology. And no explanation on her part will justify the name, seagoddess! It glorifies demons in the sea and she can't bear it and be talking about favourite saints in heaven.

She owes no one an apology. You do not know the reasons for her using that as her screen name. I use Lady as a screen name because of the song by Fela Kuti, my friends teased me with that song because they said I act exactly like the description of Lady in the song. That has been my nickname ever since.
You have absolutely no idea the background of that name. You are here passing judgment without knowing the girl or her background and her reason for choosing that name.

You do owe her an apology. It is not up to you to judge her.

@ , Lady,
the meaning of the word lady is the same no matter the background. So if Fela, Daniel Webster or any other person uses it, we know the meaning. Pls we are dealing and discussing spiritual matters not romance or petty things and it is a wonder that you consider it a judgement for correcting her or raising the issue up! She should choosen Lucifer or Satan since it concerns no body!
Let seagodess speak up , then I will know who will offer the apology. Will you in all fairness name your daughter seagodess?

rotimy:

@ , Lady,
the meaning of the word lady is the same no matter the background. So if Fela, Daniel Webster or any other person uses it, we know the meaning. Pls we are dealing and discussing spiritual matters not romance or petty things and it is a wonder that you consider it a judgement for correcting her or raising the issue up! She should choosen Lucifer or Satan since it concerns no body!
Let seagodess speak up , then I will know who will offer the apology. Will you in all fairness name your daughter seagodess?

It does not matter whether or not I will name my daughter seagoddess, if I do, I will have a reason behind it and no one can judge me for that. She had a reason to use that as her screen name and it is not up to you or I to do any judging.

When I saw the name seagoddess mammywater did not come to my mind. I am not that superstitious. Pls don't let your superstition cause you to insult her, thanks.

She owes you no apology, get over it. But you do owe her an apology, it is none of your business whatever name she chooses. You do not have any control over her and you certainly do not pay her bills. She owes you no apology neither does she owe you an explanation for it. We are not using Canon law here, thanks.

leave seagoddess be. that's her screen name (hopefully not her real name).

i think we have derailed from the topic of the thread so can we get back on track please

St John Bosco is patron saint of alter boys and youths (another of my favourites ).

I leave "Seagoddess" alone as my brethren advised. And I thank God for my "superstition" as Lady puts it. But I will never offer any apology to any godess. If someone uses "harlot" as a screen name, I will just say, oh that's a saint pretending or in a making, then I will recommend it as a child's baptismal name! What a faith!

Carlosein:

leave seagoddess be. that's her screen name (hopefully not her real name).

i think we have derailed from the topic of the thread so can we get back on track please

St John Bosco is patron saint of alter boys and youths (another of my favourites ).

didn't his day just pass? they made a movie about him i think.

@~Lady~: Efe. We are (I am) the only one who can call you that, on Nairaland, because am "Daddey. I know you miss me, terribly.

Now whats your take on the excommunicated "former Ohio State first lady" woman priest, with the other women priests by the catholic hierrachy in Rome? Give me your take. Ko yo o!

i love st macelino the bread and wine. almost the youngest saint if not.
i also love my petron saint, st Agatha ; V&M celebrated every 5th of february.

~Lady~:

didn't his day just pass? they made a movie about him i think.

yes, it's 31st of january. i don't know about the movie sha.

ifysimple:

i love st macelino the bread and wine. almost the youngest saint if not.
i also love my petron saint, st Agatha ; V&M celebrated every 5th of february.

i don't know him o. can you tell us about him?

olabowale:

@~Lady~: Efe. We are (I am) the only one who can call you that, on Nairaland, because am "Daddey. I know you miss me, terribly.

Now whats your take on the excommunicated "former Ohio State first lady" woman priest, with the other women priests by the catholic hierrachy in Rome? Give me your take. Ko yo o!

another one trying to pass off falsehood.

if it's by the catholic hierarchy, who excommunicated her then?

Carl, ignore the old man, he is anxious for attention.

St. Faustina. Have you seen her dolls?

Olabowale

I never gave you permission to say my name. You are restricted as everyone here is, you do not have the permission to say my name thanks.

~Lady~:

Carl, ignore the old man, he is anxious for attention.

St. Faustina. Have you seen her dolls?

her dolls, no i haven't. they must be really cute.

St Faustina, pray for us.

Carlosein:

leave seagoddess be. that's her screen name (hopefully not her real name).

i think we have derailed from the topic of the thread so can we get back on track please

St John Bosco is patron saint of alter boys and youths (another of my favourites ).

Hang on!! Is there a saint by the name 'John Bosco'?!!

Kuz I used to sit with dhiz boy called 'John Bosco' when i was in primary 5/6, thought he was just nicknamed 'Bosco'

Moyola:

Hang on!! Is there a saint by the name 'John Bosco'?!!

Kuz I used to sit with dhiz boy called 'John Bosco' when i was in primary 5/6, thought he was just nicknamed 'Bosco'

LOL! that's always the case with many st. names. but he's very real.

check this out:

John Bosco (born Giovanni Melchiorre Bosco, also called Don Bosco; 16 August 1815 – 31 January 1888) was a Catholic priest from Italy, and recognized educator, who put into practice the dogma of his religion, employing teaching methods based on love rather than punishment. He placed his works under the protection of Francis de Sales; thus his followers styled themselves the Salesian Society.

Don Bosco succeeded in establishing a network of centres to carry on his work. In recognition of his work with disadvantaged youth he was canonized by Pope Pius XI in 1934.

see this for more info: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Bosco

Carlosein:

her dolls, no i haven't. they must be really cute.

St Faustina, pray for us.

Actually they used to scare me, not that she's ugly, she's actually pretty, but the way they make the dolls, ohhh goodness, it can be scary at times, well to me anyway.

Moyola:

Hang on!! Is there a saint by the name 'John Bosco'?!!

Kuz I used to sit with dhiz boy called 'John Bosco' when i was in primary 5/6, thought he was just nicknamed 'Bosco'

Hahaha that's cute, but I know that parents who have the last name of a saint usually name thair children after that saint, so that their full name is actually the saint's name.
But if he wasn't named after Bosco, then that's a real coinkidink and a very cute one at that.
But no he's not the John Bosco we're talking about.

Carl, there is a movie about Don Bosco

~Lady~:

Hahaha that's cute, but I know that parents who have the last name of a saint usually name thair children after that saint, so that their full name is actually the saint's name.
But if he wasn't named after Bosco, then that's a real coinkidink and a very cute one at that.
But no he's not the John Bosco we're talking about.

Carl, there is a movie about Don Bosco

Of cuzz, I know hez not the one you talking about. I was only suprised to know there's really a saint by that name. . . .


If that b the case, St. John Bosco will b one of my fav.  _{also bcuz d bhoi in ma klass den. . . .uhmn! fyne bhoi!}

~Lady~:

Actually they used to scare me, not that she's ugly, she's actually pretty, but the way they make the dolls, ohhh goodness, it can be scary at times, well to me anyway.

scary St Faustina dolls, that's a first for me lol!

~Lady~:

Carl, there is a movie about Don Bosco

you have it? i have only read about him. sure would like to see the movie.

Moyola:

Of cuzz, I know hez not the one you talking about. I was only suprised to know there's really a saint by that name. . . .


If that b the case, St. John Bosco will b one of my fav.  _{also bcuz d bhoi in ma klass den. . . .uhmn! fyne bhoi!}

and you are you not fine ?

, , an waiting for one of you to say St. Paris Hilton,

Men you people make me cringe, how can you have something in front of you and still not see, that the Bible is against the Catholic church and its practices,

plaese who really was st valentine .does the catholic church still celebreate st valentine's day

Moyola:

Of cuzz, I know hez not the one you talking about. I was only suprised to know there's really a saint by that name. . . .


If that b the case, St. John Bosco will b one of my fav.  _{also bcuz d bhoi in ma klass den. . . .uhmn! fyne bhoi!}

lol, girl, I don't even know what to say to that. my lips are sealed.

Carlosein:

scary St Faustina dolls, that's a first for me lol!

lol, it was scary to me, i'm cool with it now.

Carlosein:

you have it? i have only read about him. sure would like to see the movie.

no i don't have the movie, but on his day the movie was on EWTN. That's how I know. And my bf (I hate calling him that) was telling me about it.

No2Atheism:

, , an waiting for one of you to say St. Paris Hilton,

Men you people make me cringe, how can you have something in front of you and still not see, that the Bible is against the Catholic church and its practices,

maybe we should ask you the same thing. Look when people read the Bible and understand they become Catholic, when people browse through the Bible they stay protestants.
If you will be truthful, I am willing to question your faith, but none of you will be willing to answer.

@ Rotimy

I'd have to agree with you on your stance about choosing a name without first thinking about its meaning, or connotations. That is the problem with people in society. Everything is situational, and so words are used loosely and not a second thought is put into the effect it might have on those who either see, or hear the word, and especially if such a word connotes something impure.