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"Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 2:37pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Trenton: Imagine this: A man woos a woman to bed with Cc: Ilekokonit AlutaContinua SirShymex Kay17 Coogar Mondisweets Pickabeau1 Naijababe Your thoughts, please. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 2:43pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Lol, this is just idi.otic, and yanks have gone nuts. Life is about survival of the fittest. And if you can sell people a dream, and make them have consensual se.x with you - I honestly don't see anything wrong with it. That's not ra.pe. It can only be ra.pe when there's no consent. Yanks have never been the sharpest tool in the shed. And don't these clowns have more important issues to pass bills on? ![]() 3 Likes |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 2:56pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex:I was incredulous when I cam across this nonsense. I'd have ignored this sort of thing before now but look what happen with the yes means yes thing (m.nydailynews.com/new-york/yes-means-yes-norm-n-y-campuses-article-1.2044451), it's spreading and will become the norm and tomorrow one daftie will try to introduce that farce here. I'm stumped. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 3:08pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: The bill itself is confused. I honestly don't even think anyone can win a ra.pe case based on this premise in a court of law, since there's consent. Just a waste of time, really. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 3:21pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex:we'll have to wait and see, won't we? The US seems to become more ridiculous by the day. They are gravitating towards a police state. 1 Like |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Fkforyou(m): 3:54pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Its not anybodies fault that they were gullible enough to be to be duped, afterall they both enjoyed it.....and by the way what happens if a lawyer can prove she willingly gave her self,or file a countersue that she was in it because she was hoping to reap some reward, *more like sex base on deceit* Although this bill was base on good intention,I still think is flawed. ![]() |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 4:52pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Fkforyou:I think this primarily bill sets out to protect women from sexu@l assault, any benefit men could accrue from it is just collateral damage. After all, only women can be r@ped. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by pickabeau1: 5:16pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
While seemingly absurd it's a way forward in trying to ensure consent given is given in a transparent manner The issue now is what enter mines a reasonable measure of expectation before you can say a lady was not defrauded If I own a jalopy but she assumed I owned a limo..can she sue for râpe If I live like a boss but am a credit case can I be sued The boundaries are limitless and depends on what the woman will think is a good level for a man that she will have given consent to Where does it stop At best the issue should be a misdemeanor The real râpists need to be caught |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 5:24pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
How does anyone want to prove that it was by fraud? |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 5:30pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1:A misdemeanour, you say? Lol. You're being too generous with people's liberties there. Going by this bill, every human should be in jail for almost every lie they tell, because humans lie for benefit which wouldn't probably be eligible for if they were forthright. About the "real r@pists", is it a dearth of elements in this group that has led to a rise in false sexu@l assault claims? Heard about Jackie from University of Virginia? |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by pickabeau1: 5:35pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: Exactly
No..what happened |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by coogar: 5:44pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex: they will win. there was a case of a woman that told her hubby not to ejaculatë in her during intercöurse. that was the condition she gave before sėx. during the act, hubby came in her. she took the matter to court that she was räped based on the technicality that she only gave consent to sex & not ejäculation. the judges agreed with her & she won the case. this is husband & wife - so tell me why a woman wouldn't win if she thinks she was räped by fraud. her angle would be she consented to have sex with the man based on his elevated status he had put as a facade - if she knew he wasn't as cool as he made himself to be, she wouldn't have given consent to shäg him. trust me, the judges in our courts today would agree with her. ![]() Timbuktou: cases like this have been existing before today, abeg. anything to put men in shackles is just fine by the "you-know-who." do women get charged for paternity fraud? never! there's no law in the constitution that can put any woman in prison for deliberately lying about the paternity of her child but some of us men may get convicted for räping by fraud. ![]() so be warned..... if she consents only to missionary style & you add döggystyle in the heat of the moment, you could be charged for räpe. if your accent is americanised & she fell for it only to realise you are a blood nigerian and you don't possess the blue passport, you are a räpe-fraud. ![]() ![]() |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 5:48pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
pickabeau1:A "r@pe victim" named names and gave a touching account of an assault that never happened and what was supposed to be a respectable institution was vilified for the sake of someone's words. Her story was published in the Rolling Stone and the world ran with it: www.rollingstone.com/culture/features/a-rape-on-campus-20141119 And then the Washington Post tried to do some "justice" to it: www.washingtonpost.com/local/education/u-va-students-put-their-names-to-account-of-attack-aftermath/2014/12/12/ea83fcce-822b-11e4-9f38-95a187e4c1f7_story.html |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 5:50pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
carefreewannabe:Ask the law-maker in a civilised country where the rights of women are "protected". |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 5:56pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
coogar:Hehehe. Sounds to me like the state is institutionalising the cuckolding men out there. Don't know how you guys gon handle this mess. Seems to be getting worse |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by coogar: 5:58pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: iphone camera or the the iphone mic is the saviour. ![]() |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 6:52pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
coogar: Well, that is different cos in this case se.x must have given whoever the accused is, consent to shag her. And that can't be classified as rap.e technically. The only issue is that he sold her a dream. Misrepresentation/fraud - yes. Ra.pe - no. I don't even know how women can allow this useless bill, when they cry about objectification all the time. This bill is directly/ indirectly objectifying the pum as a commodity lol. Materialism is about to destroy humanity. 2 Likes |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by pickabeau1: 7:38pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: Ok..will read it later |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by LordReed(m): 7:48pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Unless the process for proving there was fraud involved is very rigorous this would be the most easily manipulated law because all you have to do is catch any discrepancy in your partners life to claim rape by fraud. I don't even want such a law in existence because you can not legislate discernment and wisdom in people's mind. If you a grown adult cannot choose a sexual partner properly why should the courts be bothered with it? Was it the court who made the choice for you? If your greed made you jump into bed with somebody then hard luck buddy! |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 7:55pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex:Bruv, women have been striving to become sexx objects for more than 50 years now. Their hardwork is finally paying but they don't appreciate the results. As a man, what do you really need a woman for in today's world? |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 8:34pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: Bruv, regardless of how belligerent, loathsome, and disrespectful a lot of these women are today - the companionship they bring to table is a necessity in life. We as men just need to pick the good ones amongst them. A good woman is worth more than hundreds of friends. However, to find the right one is just an uphill task. Also, when you become a dad, you just need the support system women provide, to be able to raise/nurture ya kids. 1 Like |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 9:05pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex:Of course, women are important in the family. The problem is the modern orientation of the female agency. Look throughout history, almost every society has a similar approach to man-woman relationships. Look at the attempt at changing it and the current structure of society. As you said, it's about finding the right woman, I don't believe a good woman exists in the true sense of the word, or a good man for that matter. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by coogar: 9:17pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
SirShymex: it's a mockery of the genuine rapê vïctims. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 9:33pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou: Good woman in this context means: someone who can compliment you, compatibility, and of the same ideology and outlook to life. You won't find a perfect one, but you'll definitely meet a few who're close to that, regardless of what their motives are. I know you definitely want to be a dad one day. And to achieve that, you'll need a woman, no? So, if you decide to just have a baby factory, and not a proper wife - don't you think you would be contributing to the agenda of the destructive forces trying to destroy the family structure, thus subconsciously making you part of the problem? |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 9:34pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by veave(f): 10:19pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
The whole world would be a jail house then. ![]() Heck! It already is ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Fkforyou(m): 10:23pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Timbuktou:Only women can be raped? I just hope you are being sarcastic. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by LordReed(m): 10:48pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Fkforyou: I really hope so because it will mean the stupid law is also a sexist one that does not protect men. 1 Like |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Nobody: 11:28pm On Dec 16, 2014 |
Fkforyou:Actually, I'm not. Apparently, that's what the letter of the law states. Coogar might help you understand this if he's up to it. |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by chachanga: 12:09pm On Jan 10, 2015 |
with all this their over-detailed legislations and hair-splitting on the most flippant issues of life, dese moffuggin whiteys will soon tie their own nuts in a knot, i swear! |
Re: "Rape By Fraud"--a Disturbing Direction In Today's Rape Culture by Shirley07: 6:40pm On Jan 10, 2015 |
SirShymex:I see. As usual, your eyes go red whenever you think an agenda favours women but calma, it's not just for the women. Based on that law, a man can also charge a woman if he thinks the woman made a fool out of him. It's for both genders. As you can see, it's good to engage that brain of yours at all time. Whatever, I don't see why such law should be allowed. Are they telling us humans are brainless dolls lacking intelligence whatsoever? It's not anyone fault if someone chose to act like one. 1 Like |
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