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Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by ojubi(m): 10:15pm On Dec 08, 2008
I was watching R. S. T. V. news here in porthacourt and Muslim's came out of the mosque to be interviewed by reporters and thy were all begging Christian's for forgiveness towards the just concluded jos riot, and at the same time advocating for peaceful co-existence with their xtian counterperts.

Is this plea sustainable bearing in mind that this same religion believe that when you die fighting for ALLAH u will be REWARDED WITH 7 ABI 17 VIRGINS in heaven? Or is this another collective way of diverting our minds away from the JOS horror
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by RibaduFan(m): 10:33pm On Dec 08, 2008
Let bygone be bygone
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by ojubi(m): 11:39pm On Dec 08, 2008
yemmyse:

Let bygone be bygone
I tho th as much. But give them the next 6 months there will be another riot in kano. That will still be a by gone i guess.
PLS let this guys show some respect to life cos non of us can create it.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by udezue(m): 4:17am On Dec 09, 2008
None at all. They commit the most heinous crimes against innocent people.

It will be nice to let by gone be by gone but for how long and how much more do we have to sacrifice knowing damn well they will attack again and again till we are I guess extinct? huh? Would u let by gone be by gone when someone continues to physically abuse you? Even regular friendships. When a friend keeps doing the same thing that has been causing both of u to fight or set u back do u continue with da crap all in da name holy by gone be by gone. Hausa/Fulani madness have to be dealt with seriously if the government  is not willing to put a stop to it.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by naijaking1: 4:41am On Dec 09, 2008
yemmyse:

Let bygone be bygone

------ untill we can bring you the next riot. cool
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by arramyjay: 4:42am On Dec 09, 2008
Ok,I dont much about Jos or its people but I have learnt somethings from this forum that they the northners, And i also learnt that they dont really go to school,but this same people killed,now it only shows one thing that they cant read nor understand,The Quran is there so that people can read and understand.I doubt if you ever see a well dressed and educated person killing.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by JosBoy4Lif(m): 6:56am On Dec 09, 2008
arramyjay:

Ok,I don't much about Jos or its people but I have learnt somethings from this forum that they the northners, And i also learnt that they don't really go to school,but this same people killed,now it only shows one thing that they can't read nor understand,The Quran is there so that people can read and understand.I doubt if you ever see a well dressed and educated person killing.

These riots are perpetrated by highly educated Northen Muslims.
Do you think that Osama Bin Laden is a daft? But is he the one blowing himself up in the name of Allah? No it is the illiterate Muslims

Islamic followers are very easy prey for these educated northern muslims, because they can be easily manipulated.
Islam is a religion that virtually takes away ones free will, so if some powerful imam/poltician told you that it is the will of Allah to kill Christians it would not be difficult for one to succumb.

We need to educate the Northen Masses that is the only way we will fight this power struggle.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by naijaking1: 7:34am On Dec 09, 2008
JosBoy4Lif:

These riots are perpetrated by highly educated Northen Muslims.
Do you think that Osama Bin Laden is a daft? But is he the one blowing himself up in the name of Allah? No it is the illiterate Muslims

Islamic followers are very easy prey for these educated northern muslims, because they can be easily manipulated.
Islam is a religion that virtually takes away ones free will, so if some powerful imam/poltician told you that it is the will of Allah to kill Christians it would not be difficult for one to succumb.


We need to educate the Northen Masses that is the only way we will fight this power struggle.

I agree with you here. Remember that the Shehu, himself( Othman Dan Fodio) invaded the Hausa states because he claimed that the king of Gobir for example was not practicing pure islam. That was his only reason for sacking the Hausas with help from his north African brothers of course. However, after overthrowing these states, he replaced them with his family members as emirs, and they became even worse than the original Hausaa.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by arramyjay: 7:56am On Dec 09, 2008
JosBoy4Lif:

These riots are perpetrated by highly educated Northen Muslims.
Do you think that Osama Bin Laden is a daft? But is he the one blowing himself up in the name of Allah? No it is the illiterate Muslims

Islamic followers are very easy prey for these educated northern muslims, because they can be easily manipulated.
Islam is a religion that virtually takes away ones free will, so if some powerful imam/poltician told you that it is the will of Allah to kill Christians it would not be difficult for one to succumb.

We need to educate the Northen Masses that is the only way we will fight this power struggle.

You have just repeated what i wrote.Of is it the illiterate ones that get mislead.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by Nobody: 8:12am On Dec 09, 2008
This our christianity has been battered and bruised. i dont know how much more christians can take from the so called illiterates and dullards.
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by JosBoy4Lif(m): 8:47am On Dec 09, 2008
OMO IBO:

This our christianity has been battered and bruised. i don't know how much more christians can take from the so called illiterates and dullards.

Hey our Christianity is not perfect either. You have guys like TB Joshua orchestrating the biggest hoax on earth.
You have pastors telling parents that their children are witches.

Why haven't other pastors in other continents of the world found these so called "witch children"
For Gods sake you can believe in all the hullabaloo you want but leave the children alone!
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by JosBoy4Lif(m): 8:48am On Dec 09, 2008
arramyjay:

You have just repeated what i wrote.Of is it the illiterate ones that get mislead.

Yes it was similar kiss
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by arramyjay: 9:20am On Dec 09, 2008
Lol cheesy cheesy cheesy cheesy
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by Nobody: 9:57am On Dec 09, 2008
JosBoy4Lif:

Hey our Christianity is not perfect either. You have guys like TB Joshua orchestrating the biggest hoax on earth.
You have pastors telling parents that their children are witches.

Why haven't other pastors in other continents of the world found these so called "witch children"
For Gods sake you can believe in all the hullabaloo you want but leave the children alone!

dude, i thought this thread was about the actions of muslims against christians in jos and the country as a whole? and not the deeds of 'MEN OF GOD'
u seem to have derailed.

GET BACK IN LINE SON!
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by congoshine(m): 10:20am On Dec 09, 2008
The solution is simple- death sentence for anyone who kills or instructs others to kill in the name of Allah !

Bt this will never see the light of day !
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by Charlesmud(m): 10:22am On Dec 09, 2008
yemmyse:

Let bygone be bygone

I am sure ur family wastn there right ?  What about those who lost theirs ?

Anyway this issue has to be cleared in Nigeria but its so unfortunate that we have useless and "I DONT CARE" government who focuses only on money,
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by lammie01: 1:45pm On Dec 09, 2008
Fellas Pls this is an intellectual forum i really dont see any sense in attacking the religion of Islam. We are talking of the jos riots but there were casualties on both sides. There was a report on BBC of 300 dead bodies been brought to the mousque, there was a report in the Sun newspapers of 2 widows that thier husbands were butchered. Killing of the innocent is a crime and both sides are guilty of it. it takes 2 to tango. I remember the days of Zamani Lekwot and the Zango kataf in the Kaduna of old.

This riots always stem from political difference and not always based on ideological difference.

naijaking1:

I agree with you here. Remember that the Shehu, himself( Othman Dan Fodio) invaded the Hausa states because he claimed that the king of Gobir for example was not practicing pure islam. That was his only reason for sacking the Hausas with help from his north African brothers of course. However, after overthrowing these states, he replaced them with his family members as emirs, and they became even worse than the original Hausaa.

For someone to sit here and talk of usman dan Fodio putting his family in power and so on just shows the lack of intellectual depth in analysis of history. I urge you to go read more on him.

Religious riots are a terrible things and meaningless in our society but for some one to state this in a topic"Do muslims have a moral justification to sue for peaceful co existence" For goodnes sake are the muslim majority in states like Oyo, Osun, Lagos and vast number in Ogun not living peacefully with the chirstians? Or did prophet of Islam (PBUH) not live peacefully with christians and jews in Medina. Please lets read wide and not just base our arguements on emotional outburst.

It is true the Northern part of Nigeria is a bit behind in terms of education compared to the south but this is a case of political injustice meted out to the north by the northern leaders themselves.

JosBoy4Lif:

These riots are perpetrated by highly educated Northen Muslims.
Do you think that Osama Bin Laden is a daft? But is he the one blowing himself up in the name of Allah? No it is the illiterate Muslims

Islamic followers are very easy prey for these educated northern muslims, because they can be easily manipulated.
Islam is a religion that virtually takes away ones free will, so if some powerful imam/poltician told you that it is the will of Allah to kill Christians it would not be difficult for one to succumb.

We need to educate the Northen Masses that is the only way we will fight this power struggle.

The leader of 9/11 Muhammed Attah had a PHD from Hamburg univeristy in Germany, Khalid Sheikh the masterminder of 9/11 presently in Guantonamo had a degree from the US, Ahmed Siddique Khan the leader of the 7/7 in UK had a university degree and was a qualified teacher, Shahzad tanveer also had a university degree. Please read your facts before you just come here with emotional outburst.

The Killing of innocents in a Crime!!!
Re: Do Muslims Have Any Moral Justification To Sue For Peaceful Co- Existence? by lucabrasi(m): 7:49pm On Dec 09, 2008
@all
here we go again,im a christian but i know in the old testament there are places where violence is justified i.e an eye for an eye, does that mean christians still practise these laws?of course not so why should every law in the quran be used to hold muslims responsible, where the present day muslims present when mohammed or whoever wrote the laws?
did the muslims/arabs hold the vatican responsible for the massacre of muslims?of course not cause they wernt there.
same as we christians wernt present when these laws were written so we cant be held responsible,
JosBoy4Lif:

These riots are perpetrated by highly educated Northen Muslims.
Do you think that Osama Bin Laden is a daft? But is he the one blowing himself up in the name of Allah? No it is the illiterate Muslims

Islamic followers are very easy prey for these educated northern muslims, because they can be easily manipulated.
Islam is a religion that virtually takes away ones free will, so if some powerful imam/poltician told you that it is the will of Allah to kill Christians it would not be difficult for one to succumb.

We need to educate the Northen Masses that is the only way we will fight this power struggle.
thank GOD for you, i was almost giving up on nigerians till i read these, you r too right man!

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