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The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 11:42am On Dec 20, 2014 |
According to the tale, until a certain point, the devil (Lucifer) was a devoted angel. My question is, where did the spirit that polluted the creature (Satan) emanate from? 16 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by davien(m): 11:51am On Dec 20, 2014 |
No questions allowed... 9 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by babino22: 12:01pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
I don't know exactly. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 12:24pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
i have to consult my 3yrs old daughter for the answer. 'cos the tales only make sense to kids. 37 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 12:28pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
From God. 3 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 12:29pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
It was not an evil spirit, it was pride. When God Creates a living thing, he allows them make choices. Angels knew how powerful God was and know the consequence of not worshiping him, the Devil wanted to face the consequence. Even human beings have a choice, its either you worship God or the Devil but there are bad consequences when you worship the devil. 108 Likes 4 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Longstride: 12:40pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Weselion: isn't our pride and other evil tendencies from the devil? The question is, where did the devil's original pride and evil come from, who tempted him to sin?... Except you wanna say we were created with pride, and other negative traits. 41 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 12:49pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Weselion: We are taught that we have two kind of spirits in us; good and bad. For every good action the good spirit is involved. For every bad action a deceiver is involved, the bad spirit. Satan fell a victim of yielding to the bad spirit. And the bad spirit is? oh remind me?? ![]() ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 12:50pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
emmyrichie:- He wasn't just a devoted angel, he was very very powerful. As a matter of fact, he was an Archangel, the most powerful of the three that God created. He was a magnificent being , with more intellect, wisdom, ability and beauty than the other angelic beings, was awesome to behold. No wonder God named him Lucifer which means 'Day Star' or 'Son of The Morning'. To cut the long story short, it got to a point that he became discontent with his position, even as the angel of worship/music director in heaven, and prominence and wanted to overthrow God. His downfall began because Pride entered his heart, and because of his power, he got some angels on his side, one third of all the angels, this then led to a war between lucifer and his men, and the other archangel/angels. He was defeated, and together with the fallen angels, was banished from Heaven and God changed his name to Satan/Devil meaning 'adversary', and these fallen angels are known today as Demons... And so on. The spirit that polluted Satan, came from Satan himself, it entered him- from him that moment he allowed Pride take over him. Hence the origin of sin originated from the creation, not the creator. Never. Although Satan, or Lucifer was not created evil, he originated His own sin which which was pride and rebellion against God. The same sin Adam commited. Rebellion- deliberately disobeying God's intsruction- The first or original sin- on Earth... 63 Likes 6 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 12:56pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: We have a comedian in the house ![]() - It entered him from himself - Yet he wasn't created evil 45 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 1:06pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Pr0ton:No evil can enter into heaven. All the angelic beings are created pure and blameless, so the moment Satan became proud as a result of His own thoughts, he lost his place in heaven. Seems you had difficulty tryin to get what I was trying to pass across in those two lines. Sorry abt that 32 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by ooman(m): 1:13pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: Ok, so god's perfect creation has an inherent corruption. Then god's not perfect to begin with. 9 Likes 3 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by ooman(m): 1:14pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: A weakness in Satan - a corruption in the creation, the fault of the creator... 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 1:22pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Weselion: why did god send him down for exercising the franchise god himself gave him? @bold seems the biblical god is a drunk jokester? gave right to 'choice' then punishes if the choice is made. the same game he played in eden, planted forbidden tree in the garden then punished many generations 'cos a talking-snake over smarted his myopic creatures. 15 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 1:28pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: Meaning, it was created with the evil spirit of pride? Was the spirit inbuilt? Why was the spirit in it/him before its manifestation? 3 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 1:29pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: More hits ![]() - No evil can enter heaven - Though someone already possess this evil in heaven REMEMBER - He wasn't created evil 24 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 1:31pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
ooman:Inherent corruption? No. God did not create angels as puppets. They were created with the inherent ability to distinguish good from evil, lucifer knew his thoughts were evil, and i believe he was aware of the consequences, yet he decided to carry on- his choice if you ask me. Those thoughts which led to actions were not inherent. They were a result of his pride. 8 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 1:35pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
@Pr0ton turn away from atheism b4 its too late. 10 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Pr0ton: 1:37pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: and that's how they run away... 10 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 1:42pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: Meaning there was an already existing fight between God and the forces of evil(s)? Technically, this means that evil was in existence even before the corruption of lucifer? 8 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by ooman(m): 1:46pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: Why should they have the ability to distinguish good from evil, if evil didn't already exist in heaven? How can Lucifer know evil, if evil doesn't already exist? How did pride get into existence? I mean, pride is supposed to be a spirit right? Some kind of demon right? I seem to remember someone say something like spirit of pride, spirit of lie etc. Who created those? Where did they come from? 16 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by lomaxx: 1:55pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Too many questions. Too few answers. 6 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 1:56pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
emmyrichie:No bro. Angels are spiritual beings, each angel is a spirit being capable of making choices/carrying out actions, though without physical bodies like humans they are still individual personalities, and just like humans, they were created with freewill, or will-power, which is subject to the will of God. They are also highly intelligent beings. In Satan's case, you need to understand how powerful he was in heaven at the time, so powerful yet he wasn't satisfied! He wanted to rule over Heaven. And because of this freewill, he decided to rebel against God. God had created him a beautiful and powerful angel, but through his pride in himself and greed he became evil. God had to throw him out immediately, for he couldn't remain there any longer. - together with as many as one third of the angels. Like Satan, they had freewill, and following Satan was their choice entirely. Hope i've answered ur questions 5 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 1:56pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
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Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 2:01pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
ooman: hehehehe they all came out of lucifer... a perfect being that brought about imperfection.. nawa oooo see fairy tale and people actually believe this ![]() ![]() 7 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 2:01pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
emmyrichie:The corruption of Lucifer was the First evil. Satan became the father of evil thereafter. 5 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by johnydon22(m): 2:03pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: so pride was not evil ![]() the question is Where did the pride originate from, was he created with pride ![]() 2 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:08pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: This haven't answered my supposed question yet. It is obvious that lucifer made a bad choice by wanting to take over power. And the bad choice in this context is devilish. Hence my question; where did the devilish thought came from? 3 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:10pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
Youngsage: From whence did the first evil came from? Meaning the forces of evil was already in existence and looking for hosts to feed on, and which unfortunately lucifer became a victim? 4 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by ooman(m): 2:11pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
johnydon22: They are all blind people. I wonder what the jewish god is got on them, paradise? Greedy id.iots. 2 Likes |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Youngsage: 2:19pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
johnydon22:... I didn't say pride isn't evil. I said it earlier. Pride originated from Lucifer, now Satan. He wasn't created with it, he wasn't created with sin. He was made blameless, but he became proud because of his beauty, he wanted to rule. He wanted God's position. Sin, or evil started as a result of Satan's pride. This pride originated from his thoughts, it came from within Him. God cannot be in the prescence of sin, so he had to cast him out into his own realm, where he could be king. ![]() 1 Like |
Re: The Evil Spirit That Corrupted Lucifer (satan's) Mind; Where Did It Come From? by Nobody: 2:24pm On Dec 20, 2014 |
ooman: No insults pls. 2 Likes |
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