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Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:07am On Dec 10, 2008 |
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Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:11am On Dec 10, 2008 |
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Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 12:12am On Dec 10, 2008 |
The first thing the Muslims did there was to rescue the Temple Mount, which by then had been turned into a garbage heap. - "rescued the temple mount" by promptly building a mosque on it? ![]() The rest of this write up is a farce. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by grafikdon: 12:17am On Dec 10, 2008 |
*Sigh* The delusion continues. . . Sometimes you just have to laugh it all off. . . ![]() ![]() ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:26am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan: From a garbage heap to a place of worship. You can't resist to complete the rest of the write up after seeing this beautiful action of turning a symbolic place from a garbage heap to a place of worship. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by kosovo(m): 12:27am On Dec 10, 2008 |
islam just surpassed the catholic church. 17% catholic , 19% islam. islam just keeps growing. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:34am On Dec 10, 2008 |
kosovo: Is this in the US or the whole world? |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Muza(m): 12:40am On Dec 10, 2008 |
It auwal87: It doesn't matter where,what matters is that it keeps growing. ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 12:44am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: This is the basis for the instability in the middle east today between Jews and "palestinians". There is nothing symbolic in stealing the history of the jews to score political points. Funny how a rubbish heap suddenly became islam's third "holiest" site . . . |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:50am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan: On the theme, the Jews have abandoned the placed for ages, and that the place was not seized or taken by force or war. That action was a resemblance of humility by Muslims of those times by reserving and taking care of History. By the way, don't you saw the word "rescue"? Anybody knows what rescuing something means, its a simple english, but you try to turn things upside down and because of your hatred against Islam. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 12:54am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan: It seems you didn't read the above article written by a Christian folk like you.
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Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 12:59am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: That's a blatant falsehood. Jews never abandoned their temple site nor the wailing wall . . . they were driven to exile by the Romans. The remaining jews left were not strong enough to rebuild the temple. auwal87: Siege of Jerusalem by the Rashidun caliphate in 637CE? auwal87: 1. Humility is not demonstrated by invading a host nation. 2. Muslims reserving history? What history? Defacing the temple mount with a mosque and lying about it? auwal87: 1. Rescue is the wrong word to use because we know islam did not come to rescue anything in Jerusalem . . . we have history to prove it. 2. Setting your history straight is not the same as "hating" islam. Anytime someone points out the farcical nature of your attempts to whitewash islam you claim we are hating. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 1:03am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: Such "articles" are puerile, self-serving attempts to whitewash basic truth. Lets take it piece by piece: Today, of course, the long discord between Israel and Palestine has acquired harsh religious overtones. Yet the fact remains that this is a battle for real estate, not a war between two faiths. We know this isnt true at all. If not why are muslims in Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Syria, nigeria . . . people totally unaffected by the "palestinian" issue so hateful of Israel? As The New York Times recently reported, while Muslim/Jewish tensions sometimes flare on university campuses, lately these same students have found ways to forge common links. For one thing, the two religions share similar dietary laws, including ritual slaughter and a prohibition on pork. Joining forces at Dartmouth this fall, the first kosher/halal dining hall is scheduled to open its doors this autumn. That isn't all: they're already planning a joint Thanks-giving dinner, with birds dressed at a nearby farm by a rabbi and an imam. Here is the problem with warped "facts" as above . . . such "common links" ONLY occur in places were muslims are the minority. Why are there no such "common links" among jews and arabs in Saudi Arabia, Jordan, Egypt, even Iraq? while muslims can afford to go to Israel and the West to forge "common links", Jews are expressly forbidden to enter muslim countries like Iran or Jordan or Saudi Arabia. Why are westerners with Jewish visas prevented from entering certain muslim nations? the chief cleric of Egypt is under serious pressure now for shaking hands with Shimon Peres in NY. Common links my foot. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 1:33am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan: Because of their act of Terrorizing Innocent Lives in Palastine, and occupying regions by force. NEVER! Jews are everywhere in Islamic Countries, even in Saudia Arabia (except of course "Makkah" which is restricted to all non-Muslims). Who ever told you that Jews are not allowed into Islamic Country is lying. In the list of countries, Jordan has one of the highest number of Jews in the Middleeast apart from Israel. Now, let Israel leave the Occupied Palastenian lands and see if there will be any person in Palastine or anywhere that will be fighting with Israel. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 1:45am On Dec 10, 2008 |
Indeed, Islam Rescues 1. Abraham's Tomb right beside the Ka'abah, its still Abraham's Tomb, not Muhammad's Tomb, would have been lost if not of Islam 2. The Ka'abah, first built by Abraham, still known as House of God, as Abraham named it originally, would have been destroyed if not of Islam 3. The Zam Zam water, still in its original place, would have been lost if not of Islam 4. The thousands of Historic places you will find in Egypt, Syria, Iran, Baghdad(Iraq but American Invaders destroyed some). All these countries are known as Arab/Muslim countries. 1 Like |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by udezue(m): 1:45am On Dec 10, 2008 |
lol garbage. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 2:04am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: This is an oft used lie. If the sole reasoning behind Nigerian muslim hatred of Israel is because of "terrorizing innocent lives in palestine and occupying regions by force" then one is left to wonder why you dont hate: - Syria (who invaded and occupied lebanon for 22 yrs) - Jordan (which prohibits movement of Palestinians into its country and was responsible for mass killing and expulsion of the PLO in the 70s) - Egypt (which occupied Gaza from 1948 - 1967) - Jordan again (which occupied the westbank from 1948 - 1967) - Iraq - Iran auwal87: Even in Jordan? ![]() You obviously have not been reading the news or you're wearing your islamic binoculars again. auwal87: According to the US Department of State report of 2006 . . . there are NO Jordanian citizens who are Jewish. auwal87: They left Gaza already . . . why is Hamas still bombing southern Israel? Where were you when Jordan and Egypt occupied these "palestinian lands"? |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 2:10am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan: , The remainig jews left were not strong enough to rebuild the temple. And so they abandoned the place. Islam came and help put a hand and built one of the most beautiful structure in the place.
That was not a siege, at that time, Caliph Abu Bakr, after Khalid ibn Walid conquered Iraq gave him a new task to enter the Byzantine province of Syria and command Muslim armies there. The Byzantine province of Syria (Levant)in those days consisted of modern day Syria, Jordan, Israel, the Palestinian territories, Lebanon and Southern Turkey. Passing through the Syrian Desert, Khalid with his half army of 9000 warriors entered Syria in June 634 and commanded the 23000 Muslim army present there under the command of 4 generals, Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah, Yazid bin Abu-Sufyan, Sharjeel bin Hosanna and Amr ibn al-A'as. Defeating many Ghassanid Arab armies in minor battles and conquering many towns Muslim army laid the siege of the important town of Bosra where the Byzantine army was defeated in the Battle of Bosra in mid of July 634. Muslim Forces soon heard of gathering of 90,000 Roman army at Ajnadayn, after which all the divisions of Muslim army joined Khalid at Ajnadayn on 24 July 634, and defeated Roman there on 30 July 634 in Battle of Ajnadayn, it was the first major pitched battle between Muslim army and Byzantine army. Damascus the Byzantine stronghold was conquered shortly after it on 19 September 634 A.D after Conquest of Damascus, the Byzantine army was given a deadline of 3 days to go as far as they can, with their families and treasure, or simply agree to stay in Damascus and pay tribute. After the three days deadline was over, the Muslim cavalry under Khalid's command attacked the Roman army by catching up to them using an unknown shortcut at battle of Maraj-al-Debaj. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 2:11am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: 1. The tomb is in Hebron not beside the Kaaba. 2. Moslems have built a mosque over the cave of Abraham's Tomb and Jews can only visit there 10 days in a yr, transported in bulletproof buses . . . thanks for "rescuing" it. auwal87: 1. You must be confused because muslim tradition claim it was first built by Adam. 2. The kaaba had nothing to with jews or christians so who did they "rescue" if for? auwal87: What has that to do with us? auwal87: If you've been a dilligent student of history u shld know that rather than "rescue" this historic sites, islam has done a lot to destroy them. Egypt was purely African until the 6th century invasion of muslims Iran's persian heritage is under serious attack from muslims Syria was predominantly christian until the muslim invasion. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 2:13am On Dec 10, 2008 |
this is from you auwal That was not a siege, at that time, Caliph Abu Bakr, after Khalid ibn Walid conquered Iraq gave him a new task to enter the Byzantine province of Syria and command Muslim armies there. The Byzantine province of Syria (Levant)in those days consisted of modern day Syria, Jordan, Israel, the Palestinian territories, Lebanon and Southern Turkey. Passing through the Syrian Desert, Khalid with his half army of 9000 warriors entered Syria in June 634 and commanded the 23000 Muslim army present there under the command of 4 generals, Abu Ubaidah ibn al-Jarrah, Yazid bin Abu-Sufyan, Sharjeel bin Hosanna and Amr ibn al-A'as. How did muslim armies get there? they flew? |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 2:14am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: If indeed islam wanted to lend a helping hand . . . why build a mosque there in place of the Jewish temple? Why are they refusing to yield the spot for a new jewish temple today? |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by auwal87(m): 2:27am On Dec 10, 2008 |
davidylan:What ever it is called in English, it is located right beside the Kaabah, and it is one of the most respected symbolic structure left in the world.
Adam did not built the place, but he laid a foundation, he made sign in the place, and round the place, but there was no building structure untill Abraham Indeed it has something to do with Jews and Christians in as much as Jews and Christians agreed on the Prophethood of Abraham. That has to do with you
You are tryin to say that Pharoah was not from Egypt, and what do you mean by purely African? Iran's persian heritage Is still there, I have visited some of them, and they are very well preserved That was more than more than a thousand year that past when Syria was ruled by Christians |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 2:29am On Dec 10, 2008 |
auwal87: The tomb of Abraham is in Herbron (west bank). The kaaba is in Saudi Arabia . . . how can the above be possible. |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by osisi4: 2:51am On Dec 10, 2008 |
The wonderful world of sharia in Iran. Penal Code, Islamic Republic of Iran Offense against Islam, prophet and the Imams Article 513, The punishment for insulting or criticizing, Islam, the Prophet Mohammed, his entire family, or his representatives known as Imams is death by hanging in public. Article 514, The punishment for insulting or criticizing, Imam Khomeini, the Islamic Republic or the leader of the Islamic Republic will be from 6 months to two years in jail. Article 515, The punishment for insulting or criticizing the leaders of the three branches of the government of Islamic Republic (Executive, Legislative and Judiciary) is from 6 months to 10 years imprisonment. Note: Article 513 is the main reason that the Islamic countries have stayed in the dark ages. When one cannot criticize a religion, a culture or a way of life there will be no room for progress. All human progress has been the result of searching for a solution to a problem. If there is no problem there cannot be a solution. Muslims believe there is nothing wrong with their religion, their prophet and their way of life, therefore why should they change anything. So they continue to live in the dark ages. Article 297 Retribution for Murder The compensation for murdering a Muslim man to his family is as follows. The murderer has the right to choose one of the following. 1- 100 healthy camels not considered very thin. 2- 200 healthy cows not considered very thin 3- 1000 healthy sheep not considered very thin. 4- 200 set of new suits made from Yemeni fabric (heleh) gold 5- 1000 Dinar where every Dinar is equal to one Mesghal 18 carrot gold 6- 10,000 Derham, where every Derham is equal to 12.6 Nokhod Silver If the murder occurs in the four forbidden Islamic months of Rajab, Zighadeh, Zihajeh and Moharam, the above compensation for murder will increase by 1/3. The retribution for murdering a Muslim woman is 1/2 of the Muslim man. There is no retribution for murdering a non-Muslim or a Kaffir. The murderer will be given one year to compensate the family of victim if the murder was premeditated. Two years if it was manslaughter. Note: Muslims always praise the Islamic laws for making things so simple. Kill a man and all you have to do is to pay his family 100 healthy camels or 200 cows, or 1000 sheep. How does one define a healthy camel not very thin? I suppose the victims family can take them to a vet and have them tested. After the September 11th disaster I read in Newsweek Magazine what a difficult time the people in charge were having in determining the compensation each family was to receive. At such occasion the Muslims will say: "see how wonderful Islam is? How simply we can determine the amount of compensation?" Since this was a premeditated murder the families will be compensated by either the price of 200 cows or 1000 sheep for every man and half of that for every woman who died on that horrific day. All the families would have been compensated in less than one week and there would be some left over money to use for other disasters. There is no need to consider the victim¹s profession, his or her earning potential, their education or their age or family structure. And by Islamic laws the families can wait for an entire year before they could be paid. Islam certainly makes everything so simple. Article 480, Compensation for injury to the face 1- If the injury is only to the skin and there was no blood, one camel 2- If the injury is through the skin with some blood, two camels 3- If the injury is deep, but is above the bone membrane, three camels 4- If the injury is deep and has cut the bone membrane, four camels. And so on and so forth. Article 494, Retribution for crimes against a corpse. 1- Removing the head 100 Dinar 2- Removal of both hands or both feet 100 Dinar 3- Removal of one hand or one foot 50 Dinar 4- Removal of one finger 10 Dinar This compensation will not be given to the heir of the dead but will be used for the dead person to pay his debts or to pay for charity on his behalf. Note: So if a person dies and has a lot of unpaid debts, lets cut him up and collect enough compensation to pay all his debts and/or make a large contribution to the Islamic Mosque. Today in Iran The marriage age for girls has been reduced to 9 years of age. "The most suitable time for a girl to get married is the time when the girl can have her first menstrual period in her husband's house rather than her father's." Ayatollah Khomeini "The specific task of women in this society is to marry and bear children. They will be discouraged from entering legislative, judicial, or what ever careers which may require decision making, as women lack the intellectual ability and discerning judgment required for theses careers." Ayatollah Mutahari Men sit in front of the bus while women sit in the back. Married couples are not allowed to sit together in the public transportation. Men and women are not allowed to swim, ski, play tennis, or perform any sports together, even if they are related to each other. Married couples, brothers and sisters, fathers and daughters, mothers and sons and other kin related must have the proof of kinship at all times, even when walking the streets. Single women are not allowed to rent a car, hotel room, travel alone or marry foreigners without the permission of the governmental officials. Women are only to see female doctors and dentists and are to be taught by female teachers and professors. In a country that education is denied for women, it be difficult to find female of any profession. This only proves that the Islamic Republic has no respect for women and their lives. Men cannot study gynecology and obstetrics. Men are not allowed to examine the reproductive part of women. Women who slightly break the rules of hijab are given a document to sign which requires them to admit to prostitution and for this they are flagellated 150 times. People are not allowed to have music, dancing, parties or any other social gathering even in the privacy of their own homes. The only thing married couples are allowed to do together is to breed and they have been quite successful at it. In the past 29 years the population of Iran has doubled from 35 million to nearly 70 million with approximately 6.5 million living abroad. The only things the Islamic Republic has brought to the Iranian people are poverty, pain and misery. We, the freedom loving Iranian people, condemn the barbaric Government of Islamic Republic and ask for helping hands from all freedom fighters all over the globe in order to separate church and state in Iran, to establish the Universal Human Rights as declared by the United Nations 1948 General Assembly, to bring about the equality between men and women of Iran and to abolish the sexual apartheid. Parvin Darabi |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Hauwa1: 2:52am On Dec 10, 2008 |
islam and america? i can't help laughing ![]() ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Muza(m): 3:04am On Dec 10, 2008 |
Obama will soon revert back to Islam now that he has won ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by osisi4: 3:06am On Dec 10, 2008 |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by osisi4: 3:20am On Dec 10, 2008 |
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Jihad Prevention Act (Introduced in House)[b][/b] HR 6975 IH 110th CONGRESS 2d Session H. R. 6975 To require aliens to attest that they will not advocate installing a Sharia law system in the United States as a condition for admission, and for other purposes. IN THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES September 18, 2008 Mr. TANCREDO introduced the following bill; which was referred to the Committee on the Judiciary -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- A BILL To require aliens to attest that they will not advocate installing a Sharia law system in the United States as a condition for admission, and for other purposes. Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE. This Act may be cited as the `Jihad Prevention Act'. SEC. 2. INELIGIBILITY FOR ADMISSION FOR ALIENS FAILING TO MAKE ATTESTATION. Section 212(a)(3) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 US.C. 1182(a)(3)) is amended by adding at the end the following: `(G) SHARIA LAW SYSTEM- Any alien who fails to attest, in accordance with procedures specified by the Secretary of Homeland Security, that the alien will not advocate installing a Sharia law system in the United States is inadmissible.'.SEC. 3. REVOCATION OF VISAS. Section 221(i) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 US.C. 1201(i)) is amended by adding at the end the following: `The visa of any alien advocating the installation of a Sharia law system in the United States shall be revoked.'. SEC. 4. REVOCATION OF NATURALIZATION. Section 340(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 US.C. 1451(a)) is amended by inserting after the first sentence the following: `Advocating the installation of a Sharia law system in the United States shall constitute a ground for revocation of a person's naturalization under this subsection.'. God Jehovah bless the USA. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() make una talk sharia here and you're on the next carmel to Islamabad |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Hauwa1: 3:27am On Dec 10, 2008 |
musa, in your dream. God bless America ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Muza(m): 3:35am On Dec 10, 2008 |
*Hauwa*: you will be shocked that my dream will come true ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by grafikdon: 3:43am On Dec 10, 2008 |
Muza: Elephants will fly and Ojukwu will be the Emir of Kano. . . ![]() ![]() |
Re: Islam: The Next American Religion? by Nobody: 4:30am On Dec 10, 2008 |
Muza: this musa na mallam? ![]() |
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