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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Collynzo9: 2:17pm On Jan 03, 2015
mu2sa2:
Gentlemen, haven't you heard about individuals who ar completely self-taught? Do you know that despite his proficiency in journalism, Ahmed Salkida (boko haram negotiator) never went beyond primary school? The late fiery lagos lawyer Alao Aka Bashorun I think it was who said he was admitted into nigerian law school in the 1960s without his LL.B cert. He said after graduation in England he returned home before convocation and never even collected the certificate ever. He was admitted into the law school because, said he, everyone knew he had attended university while in England. You see there's nothing strange in Buhari submitting the originals of his cert. in the early 1960s when he joined the army because he didnt need to keep the piece of paper himself. Maybe you belong in the generation of certificate worshippers.
Let us not deviate from the matter at hand.
How can he prove that he is ''self taught'' up to school certificate level as the law requires?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 2:18pm On Jan 03, 2015
Collynzo9:

I haven't seen even the tiniest difference between what vanguard did and what sahara Reporters, Punch and PMtimes do all the time.
We are not with Buhari’s original copies of
certificates — Army


However, against the backdrop of Buhari’s affidavit in court, a military source said ‘’that the Army can not keep anybody’s original certificate because it is the personal property of the owner,’’ adding that such original certificates were only needed at the
point of entry into the service.

Nigerian Army Dismisses 203 Soldiers After secret trial
One of the sacked soldiers, who spoke on
condition of anonymity,
said the soldiers were
dismissed for asking for support equipment,
following the army’s plan to convey them in a
tipper for an operation in Bama and Gwoza, two


What is the difference?

In that your second example, was it the source that said the NA dismissed the soldiers or he was providing reasons for the said sack? Those are two different things.

This is a funny thing we are doing, its like every single thing must be shown to you because you simply don't want to understand.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by docadams: 2:19pm On Jan 03, 2015
Demdem:


Actually it's that pain I believe the Apc intends to continue to torment nonentities that think this is an issue in the first place.
Giving ur enemies work to do while forgetting core issues. It's a political weapon and it's well deployed.

Food for thought. According to OBJ 'I just dey laugh'.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Kenai: 2:21pm On Jan 03, 2015
I swear, NgeneUkwenu never imagined a day like this. grin

December 2014:

NgeneUkwenu:
I Can Bet My Last kobo Jonathan Never Went To The University! All His Certificates Were Forged! However we shall look into it, when we assume power Next year!


Now, their expired general can't even present his primary school certificate.
My gaaaaad! grin

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by nduchucks: 2:24pm On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
he is an ex convict then. Do u know wat that means? And GEJ won't pardon him.

I'm sure it is obvious to you and other readers that your post above is very indicative of how dellusional you folks are. You are currently engaged in an exercise in futility with your stance. I'm afraid, your Goodluck will run out for retirement in Otuoke in a few weeks.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by taharqa: 2:25pm On Jan 03, 2015
LRNZH:


The difference is 7up grin ie very clear for the uninitiated

Vanguard's title is stating that the Army has officially confirmed that it does not have GMB's certificates.

Premium Times is asserting that their investigation shows that 203 soldiers were sacked secretly by the Army.

The first is very very libelous.
The second is debateable from a libel perspective.
Get a legal practitioner's opinion if you still disagree.
You are actuali the 2nd dullest APC e-Rat on NL these days, beaten only by that other degenerative mind NgeneUkwu/Cleverly. And to think that you only startd to post more regularly recently....#SMDH

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Collynzo9: 2:26pm On Jan 03, 2015
django1:


In that your second example, was it the source that said the NA dismissed the soldiers or he was providing reasons for the said sack? Those are two different things.

This is a funny thing we are doing, its like every single thing must be shown to you because you simply don't want to understand.
He did both, informed them that soldiers were sacked and gave reasons.
The soldier, who is originally of the 19th Battalion in Okitipupa in Ondo State, but attached to the 7th division in Maiduguri, said the army detained them for over 90 days before dismissing them after a night trial

http://saharareporters.com/2015/01/01/nigerian-army-dismisses-203-soldiers-after-secret-night-trial

I doubt if that unknown source even exists. The story has been debunked by an official military source.
This is what Sahara reporters and Premium times do all the time
www.nairaland.com/2074225/nigerian-army-denies-secret-trial

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 2:28pm On Jan 03, 2015
nduchucks:


I'm sure it is obvious to you and other readers that your post above is very indicative of how dellusional you folks are. You are currently engaged in an exercise if futility with your stance. I'm afraid, your Goodluck will run out for retirement in Otuoke in a few weeks.
hahahaha!!! Please,just follow the argument from the beginning and there won't be any need for ur post above.
Feel free to bring a logical counter to the table. That's how we roll.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by LRNZH(m): 2:30pm On Jan 03, 2015
taharqa:
You are actuali the 2nd dullest APC e-Rat on NL these days, beaten only by that other degenerative mind NgeneUkwu/Cleverly. And to think that you only startd to post more regularly recently....#SMDH

Why the insults?
The so called 'APC e-rats' focus on issues.
You TANoids resort to insults when your rather thin last line of defense is quickly used up.

Even Collynzo9 with whom I had this exchange did not use insults.

Next time you want to quote me, kindly focus on the issues being discussed. Its a New Year you know?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by minister2015: 2:42pm On Jan 03, 2015
Tanoids have lost's marble, the military has not denied of not being in possession of GMB's certificates. I believe saTANists can do better this campaign of calumny.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Emperor007: 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2015
OP,

Please you and your team should cut this long story, just provide Buhari's ( GMB) certificates.

You and your team should equally stop asking why Nigerians want GMB certificates seen / tendered / verified, because he's not going to govern himself ( though he would loose as usual if he's able to provide his certificates ) & Nigerians have the right to know the truth.










.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by agabaI23(m): 2:45pm On Jan 03, 2015
mu2sa2:
You see why I said blockheads. You can educate yourself without even going to any school, that's why the constitution says in section 131 "educated " and not "attended school". If you and the people that have brainwashed you are serious, pls go to court and make your counter-affidavit that Buhari is not educated to school cert level. These blockheads, haba!
Hmm baba mutun, the certificate used indicate that someone has been certified to have obtained fulfilled something. In this case, to certify that he trained up to FSLC. If he is not certified, how can you prove that he is educated upto FSLC? That's the only proof we have at the moment.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by minister2015: 2:46pm On Jan 03, 2015
Tanoids have lost's marble, the military has not denied of not being in possession of GMB's certificates. I believe saTANists can do better than this campaign of calumny. Better grow up, because 2015 is not 2011.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by mu2sa2: 3:17pm On Jan 03, 2015
agabaI23:
Hmm baba mutun, the certificate used indicate that someone has been certified to have obtained fulfilled something. In this case, to certify that he trained up to FSLC. If he is not certified, how can you prove that he is educated upto FSLC? That's the only proof we have at the moment.
This generation of certificate worshippers! Get it straight- the constitution does not say produce certificate. Buhari has satisfied the requirements of section 131 by SWEARING b4 God and man that he has school cert but not in his actual possession. Liars spewing trash on nl think Buhari belongs in their fold!
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 3:25pm On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
the sworn affidavit that has been faulted? [s]We are advocating for strong institutions in this country that will help check improper actions, I also expect people who sincerely want change to break from the hitherto tradition of "anything goes". No longer! GMB as yet is not qualified constitutionally,just know that.
INEC operates on timetable,the deadline for candidate screening hasn't come,until then,INEC and every patriotic citizen has a duty to reject what is unconstitutional.
What I know that INEC doesn't know? Our government is truly the product of the average mentality of the populace. Let us task our government to follow the law.
Now who wants change?[/s]

Faulted by who?
Inec? Military? The executive? Judiciary?
By who exactly? Kindly substantiate this with verifiable links.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by agabaI23(m): 3:29pm On Jan 03, 2015
mu2sa2:
This generation of certificate worshippers! Get it straight- the constitution does not say produce certificate. Buhari has satisfied the requirements of section 131 by SWEARING b4 God and man that he has school cert but not in his actual possession. Liars spewing trash on nl think Buhari belongs in their fold!
Don't run away from the issue Musa. Counter my argument please.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by mu2sa2: 3:32pm On Jan 03, 2015
agabaI23:
Don't run away from the issue Musa. Counter my argument please.
What answer do you expect to a meaningless question?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 3:40pm On Jan 03, 2015
Demdem:


Faulted by who?
Inec? Military? The executive? Judiciary?
By who exactly? Kindly substantiate this with verifiable links.
www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/army-denies-having-buharis-certificate
there is what we,as civilized as we are,should take with a pinch of salt, that is that ones employer or former employer is with his original certificate(even his photocopy) that all he will tender in a new job search is an affidavit.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by agabaI23(m): 3:42pm On Jan 03, 2015
mu2sa2:
What answer do you expect to a meaningless question?
My question is meaningless? Could be you did not comprehend, I will forgive you. It could also be that you are in self denial in which case you won't be able to forgive yourself unless you tell yourself the truth.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 3:45pm On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
www.dailytimes.com.ng/article/army-denies-having-buharis-certificate
there is what we,as civilized as we are,should take with a pinch of salt, that is that ones employer or former employer is with his original certificate(even his photocopy) that all he will tender in a new job search is an affidavit.

Ur link is very useless at best.
When army speaks, she speaks through his spokesperson. Nothing in ur link suggest such.
Try again.


Demdem:


Faulted by who?
Inec? Military? The executive? Judiciary?
By who exactly? Kindly substantiate this with verifiable links.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by LogicPower(m): 3:49pm On Jan 03, 2015
1. The way PDP's army of semi-illiterates and online propagandists think they have found 'a smoking gun' with this RIDICULOUS allegation regarding Buhari's academic qualification only shows how clueless the GEJ's campaign team is, otherwise how would they allow this kind of ABSURDITY to go on for so long without realizing it is their supporters who would be disappointed and embarrassed at the end?

2. If the GEJ campaign managers are not so clueless, they would have known that this HARE-BRAINED tactic would only give them a SHORT-LIVED moment of excitement before it EVENTUALLY BACKFIRE big time on the clueless, and finally nail the coffin of his dying dream for re-election.

3. We all know that from the logical point of view, there are two mutually exclusive scenarios regarding this issue;
(a) either Buhari actually possesses the qualifications he claims to have possessed or
(b) he does not possess them yet he made a false claim in a sworn affidavit to the effect that he possesses them.

4. And even a layman would know how the ELECTORAL LAW would apply in each scenario; if (a) is the case, INEC MUST allow him to contest (provided he satisfies all other conditions), but if (b) is the case INEC WILL disqualify him.

5. Although each of the two scenarios is logically possible, MOST people with COMMONSENSE would tend to believe that (a) is the case, for a number of reasons:
!. it is VERY UNLIKELY that a former army general and head of state would make a false claim about his academic
qualification for whatever reason(s).
!!. it is even more UNLIKELY that he would do so in a situation as important and politically sensitive as filing a
nomination to contest an election with an incumbent president, who controls the entire FG machinery.
!!!. and given the fact that GMB has earned for himself a reputation as a public servant of RARE honesty and integrity, he
would be the least expected person to engage in falsifying his academic qualifications or any of his records.
v!. since everybody, including the general himself, knows that he is so widely admired and respected by Nigerians NOT
because of his academic attainment but because of his personal honesty and integrity, he does NOT need to embellish
his academic qualification for Nigerians to elect him.

6. So as the PDP goons permeate the social media with the stink of their dirty and rancid campaign of character assassination against GMB, they should be ready to swim in their tears of defeat and sweat of embarrassment if, as people with commonsense expect, it turns out eventually that the people's general has NOT made any false claim regarding his academic qualification.

7. When the general is eventually VINDICATED by INEC, then the clueless and his campaign managers, who seem to be encouraging and relishing this cheap and senseless mischief against GMB, would see how it would all END IN FAVOUR of the general; many decent Nigerians who are undecided voters would simply feel outraged by this morally reprehensible mischief against the amiable general and simply swing to supporting him and voting for him.

8. It would then become even clearer to Nigerians that the clueless and incompetent president has NO concrete achievements to show for all the six years he has been in office, hence his goons have to resort to blatant lies, deceits, mischief, blackmail and all sorts of character assassination against the general.

9. But unfortunately for them, all these shameless tactics are CLEARLY NOT working, as the wind of change keeps blowing, and the electoral defeat of the clueless increasingly looks a foregone conclusion.

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Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 4:15pm On Jan 03, 2015
Demdem:


Ur link is very useless at best.
When army speaks, she speaks through his spokesperson. Nothing in ur link suggest such.
Try again.



. I know you will say this. The link quoted a source from which they got the info,which info you can't wish away,because that's what obtains normally. You may choose to wait for the army spokesperson,but until he comes up,we have a faulted claim.

The job in contest is a public office,thus Nigerians have a right to question any shady moves in the MAKING,any doubt created in this issue will be resolved in our favour. It behoves on GMB to answer our questions. We must keep asking questions.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 4:26pm On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
. I know you will say this. The link quoted a source from which they got the info,which info you can't wish away,because that's what obtains normally. You may choose to wait for the army spokesperson,but until he comes up,we have a faulted claim.

Nop, we have no faulted claims yet. What we Av currently are nonentities bringing up issues when there is none per se. Buhari isn't moved by such. Those in authority knows that there is no credence to such and that explains after almost one week since this issue broke they have deemed it fit not to even attend to it.



The job in contest is a public office,thus Nigerians have a right to question any shady moves in the MAKING,any doubt created in this issue will be resolved in our favour. It behoves on GMB to answer our questions. We must keep asking questions.

Nigerians have the right and what Buhari has to do is to be by the side of the law.
So far, he hasn't broken any law with his affidavit, inec hasn't said they have issues with it, military hasn't said the General lied against them, even sane Nigerians knows this issue is no issue. Except Jonathan cocck suckers who has chosen to be foolish.


Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 4:34pm On Jan 03, 2015
[quote author=Demdem post=29456195][/quote] the signs of civilization is tolerance in the main. No name calling/insult please. Except u want to gag us.
The people that are involved may keep quiet as u claim, this issue is still potent even after election date. So it may be more damaging later.
We want the best proof in that criteria,and that's the certificate.
He should do the right thing.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 4:38pm On Jan 03, 2015
[s]
Montaque:
the signs of civilization is tolerance in the main. No name calling/insult please. Except u want to gag us.
The people that are involved may keep quiet as u claim, this issue is still potent even after election date. So it may be more damaging later.
We want the best proof in that criteria,and that's the certificate.
He should do the right thing.
[/s]

Crap. U Av no point neither is there any issue.
Those constitutionally empowered to verify have done their job and no objection, who then are u?
Buhari is on the side of the law and already done the right thing.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Montaque(m): 4:47pm On Jan 03, 2015
Demdem:
[s][/s]

Crap. U Av no point neither is there any issue.
Those constitutionally empowered to verify have done their job and no objection, who then are u?
Buhari is on the side of the law and already done the right thing.
the best you can say about people asking questions is that we should await either the military spokesperson's comment on the matter or GMB's coming out clean. I will still remember that I asked question in the years to come.
Ur not heeding advice on invectives is a low point for u. Desist.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Demdem(m): 6:59pm On Jan 03, 2015
Montaque:
the best you can say about people asking questions is that we should await either the military spokesperson's comment on the matter or GMB's coming out clean. I will still remember that I asked question in the years to come.
Ur not heeding advice on invectives is a low point for u. Desist.

Actually there are some questions that are pretty daft and this perfectly fall in line to it.
Proponents of this malady will have us believe that General Buhari of the Nigerian army doesn't have a school cert.
Does not make sense to u?
U can await their responses, i have no time for bullshit.
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 7:05pm On Jan 03, 2015
Barcanista thanks for bringing up this thread. Your one of the most reasonable members on nairaland which is aknowledged by majority of members here
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:22pm On Jan 03, 2015
Welcome! It is my pleasure
seges:
Barcanista thanks for bringing up this thread. Your one of the most reasonable members on nairaland which is aknowledged by majority of members here
happy New Year
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by agabaI23(m): 10:28pm On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
Welcome! It is my pleasurehappy New Year
barcanista, did you miss the mention from me?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by Nobody: 10:38pm On Jan 03, 2015
agabaI23:
barcanista, did you miss the mention from me?
Sorry, can you di®ect me? I Ðidnt see it. WhÍch thread exactly?
Re: Did The Military Really Deny Muhammadu Buhari's Claim? by agabaI23(m): 10:41pm On Jan 03, 2015
barcanista:
Sorry, can you di®ect me? I Ðidnt see it. WhÍch thread exactly?
Apology accepted https://www.nairaland.com/2074540/army-buharis-academic-records-not/4#29459671

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