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Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 7:34pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
skyope:Cool, so you agree a good step was taken by privatising the genco and discos.... But you're sceptical about the sincerity of the investors. I believe the amount bid by the buyers was made public. We have the FOI there to help get the figures and if said cash was remitted to the govt coffers. I know of two new gencos that are investing heavily into the upgrade of power generation.. One is the Transcorp power, Ughelli. I've seen work going on and read in the news of the nearly 300 million dollars investment (which can only add but circa 150-200mw)... Now, if you add the money committed by this firm only so far, it will be getting to the neighbourhood of a billion dollars, take 1-2 hundred million. And they still got a long way to go in achieving their 2000MW target. Power generation isn't like the telecom sector where one mast cast serve an area. A mast can be put up in a week or two... A plant takes years to build. As for the traumatic bonding issue you posited there, here's a quote "Buhari enslaved the nation. He gloated and gloried in a Master-slave relation to the millions of its inhabitants. It is astonishing to find that the same former slaves, now free of their chains, should clamour to be ruled by one who not only turned their nation into a slave plantation, but forbade them any discussion of their condition" - Wole Soyinka. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 7:48pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
ceejayluv: Of course privatization is always a good step. How it is done is the question. The telecoms example is just to make the point of consequence for failure of a contract holder. There is simply none in todays government contracts. e.g. Dangote 3G. During the initial telecoms GSM bidding, everybody knew the deadline date to deliver or start paying fines. In developed countries, if you dont meet the deadline you pay for the equivalent money to source for alternative power meanwhile. It is always huge, so investors make sure they deliver as agreed. The question is simple. When is the deadline that Transcorp power, Ughelli must meet before contract breach kicks in? "Buhari enslaved the nation. He gloated and gloried in a Master-slave relation to the millions of its inhabitants. It is astonishing to find that the same former slaves, now free of their chains, should clamour to be ruled by one who not only turned their nation into a slave plantation, but forbade them any discussion of their condition" - Wole Soyinka. Ask wole soyinka what he thinks today about the bolded 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by piagetskinner(m): 7:51pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Chai! this woman is an embodiment of talent # |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 7:52pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
NairaMode:No, not yet |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 7:59pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
skyope: There were various memoranda signed between the FG and the private investors which include training of local manpower and facility upgrade. All the same, it's good you've pointed that out, I'll do some further research on said memoranda. Soyinka will never support an ex-despot to rule this nation under any pseudo-progressive guise. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 8:03pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
ceejayluv: Here are facts you might be interested in: From 2000 to 2008 Delta II and Delta III GE units were upgraded to 150MW station each: built by Hitachi of Japan. The control systems were upgraded to Mark V, a fully computerized control system for Delta II and III. While Delta I was scrapped. Delta IV control system was also upgraded to Mark V by GE of USA which built the station. Today, the generation capacity of Transcorp Ughelli Power stands at 900MW with the Delta II, III & IV running at full capacity. Most of the electricity produced by Ughelli is transported through a network of conductors, to the national grid. No mention of any recent investments. This was privatized in 2003. http://www.ughellipower.com/about Have you read soyinkas comments about GEJ? 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Pdizzle(m): 8:06pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
malonephills: I like it when I'm in AK, e sure say light go come at least few hours a day. As for Ado, if i hear 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 8:12pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
skyope:I know, that's the installed capacity... The Ughelli power plant was running below 50% capacity before Transcorp acquired it in 2013. Meaning that some of the facilities needed major TAM and overhauling.. (after 50,000 hours for a standard GT).... I'm not disposed to get news links of their expansion investments right now. Nevertheless, I also have insiders and access to the firm in question. Of course, I've seen comments about GEJ from Soyinka.. Compare and contrast them and tell me who's the lesser "evil"... |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by munex007(m): 8:25pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
"I cannot help but wonder how many medical catastrophes have occurred in public hospitals because of “no light,” how much agricultural produce has gone to waste, how many students forced to study in stuffy, hot air have failed exams, how many small businesses have foundered. What greatness have we lost, what brilliance stillborn? " Longtan Dam and Hydropower Station in China (Cost: $4.2 Billion US)..The installed electric power generation capacity of the dam is 6,426MW...Imagine having about 5 of those projects here..And yet Billions have been expeneded yet we don't even have up to 5000.. Corruption is killing this Nation..we really need a stern and charismatic Leader like GMB!!.. 2 Likes |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 8:28pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
ceejayluv: http://leadership.ng/business/380427/transcorp-invests-n65bn-ughelli-power-plc If that is what you are looking for, remember that similar promise was made in 2003 when ughelli power plc became operators. Its not about promises, its about consequences for failure. Besides, 1000MW increase in 3 years. Na snail? And thats our largest gas plant o. At that rate, we will never have supply over demand in 1000 years. For comparism, norway has 1443 power plants. Though most are small, but you get the idea if it takes 3 years to build 1000MW in our largest power project. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by EagleNest(m): 8:31pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
54 years of failure in putting steady 'light' to our homes, shops and industries and still counting... |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Emmahunk(m): 8:36pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
HouseOfBalloons: Having read some of your works like . 'half of a yellow sun', purple hibiscus etc, I am not surprised at how you can use words to turn a very bad situation appear like pure comedy. Light /power /Nepa, whatever name is just one of the many problems of this Country |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 8:45pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
skyope:You see where the reality comes in?... I don't know if you feel that building and installing 1000MW is like building a personal house... Find out when Sweden started building it's power plants. Find out when Japan started its bullet train project. Find out when Eskom South Africa started building large scale power plants. Some of those projects are shy of a hundred years old. I believe you can see that my 10-15 years prognostication was even overly optimistic. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 9:06pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
ceejayluv: You fail to get my point. Yes it takes actually 3-5 years for a 1000MW. Thats why we need 5-7 units to be built concurrently. Not just 1. But the main point is, if in 2018 for this particular TUPC project of 1000MW, what happens if they fail to deliver as most have already? [/b]same way UPC failed in operation. [b]What motivates TUPC to deliver results? Dont forget power privatization started in 2006. 9 years later, today we are still talking about promises. Just to give you some perspective. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by psemy25: 9:21pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
The president has nth to do with D light situation in Lagos state. Bayelsa enjoys lite, I serve in Ondo state nd I'm enjoying light |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 9:47pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Pdizzle:which side you always roll when you enter ![]() |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by jomoh: 10:17pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
meforyou1: Clueless TANoid. Who owns constitutional power to provide electricity? State or Federal? This is 2015 you're not getting younger. You should think of how to start using that brain of yours. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 10:30pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
skyope:Privatisation was completed in 2013 , what happened before then was the unbundling of PHCN in readiness to full privatisation which GEJ has successfully done... So, the journey to Eldorado in the new power era is not even up to two years old... It's a process. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by texazzpete(m): 10:37pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Wittylens: Who cares if it started with GEJ? It is a PDP scourge that tens of billions of dollars have been invested in that sector yet we are still battling to generate 4500 MW at a peak, for a nation of 180 million people. next you will say it is not a PDP thing because it did not start in 1999. If all other leaders reject that it 'started' in their tenure, who will we now hold responsible? tafawa balewa? GEJ is the Nigerian President. he has told us he has invested billions of dollars in that sector, and promised a massive improvement in power supply. That promise ended in abject failure. Let your paymaster take responsibility for this. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Horus(m): 10:42pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by emperorbanks(m): 10:59pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
funmilayoB: There's a reasonable supply of electricity in Akure depending on the area u reside thou. I can vividly say it's like that for most other cities. There's always a part of a town/city that enjoys stable electricity and there's that part that ain't so fortunate. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Pdizzle(m): 11:38pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
malonephills: That's ma hood, light for Ado is fuccked jare. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by manuelo130: 11:57pm On Feb 01, 2015 |
bukjam: The lady just described life in Nigeria as it relates to power supply and no one who has ever lived in Nigeria will have any problems relating to this story. 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 12:51am On Feb 02, 2015 |
ceejayluv: You have ignored my questions in bold. So after 16 years PDP (3 years VP GEJ (5 years PGEJ)) we now want to start investment. Hehehe. You will justify anything GEJ. Stealing is not Corruption right? 1 Like |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by bukjam: 2:02am On Feb 02, 2015 |
manuelo130: Yeah it happens.. But only in extreme cases. Generally, its bad but def not as bad as she painted it. That doesn't mean the power supply is sometn to be proud of. Its annoying, to say the least |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by realnaijaa: 3:34am On Feb 02, 2015 |
meforyou1:when you see a fool you know one as easily as you.what is Tinubu. got to do with electricity. This is simply jona duty.the law does not empower Tinubu to generate or distribute power,fashola generates power under the lagos NIPP.but it can't be sold to the public.It is use to power lagos state govt agencies and facilities,eg,island maternity, Alausa Secretariat, most of the streetlight in lagos,even the streetlight on EKO bridge. So please be meaningful in your life for once. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by realnaijaa: 4:51am On Feb 02, 2015 |
emperorbanks:don't bring Akure into this were in Akure is there reasonable amount of power being generated.is it around ajipowo, arakale area,oluwatuyi,obale,oke aro,dajuma,futa,okeijebu/ijomu,shagari,on do road customs,where please tell.I really want to know.or are you talking about oluwatuyi or school of agric area.where in particular. Please stop dishing out rubbish. Power situation in Akure is very bad. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by ceejayluv(m): 9:18am On Feb 02, 2015 |
skyope:When was the privatisation completed?... OBJ started the privatisation process, couldn't complete it and is now suddenly an emergency "progressive" supporting buhari.... You can go and vote your Messiah promising to invoke 20,000 MW in four years (knowing that it takes circa four years to build 1000MW, I laugh).. That reminds me.. I heard Audu Ogbeh, a whole former national chairman of PDP has joined the pseudo-progressive bandwagon alongside other frustrated and quintessentially corrupt PDP elements... I rest my case... |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by CoCoLav(f): 10:44am On Feb 02, 2015 |
I wonder, too, how differently our national character might have been shaped, had we been a nation with children who took light for granted, instead of a nation whose toddlers learn to squeal with pleasure at the infrequent lighting of a bulb. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Nobody: 11:49am On Feb 02, 2015 |
sexyseun: Oh I see. |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Ossaifamous(m): 12:05pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
pls come and vote o.... |
Re: Chimamanda Adichie's NYTimes Article On Nigeria's Epileptic Power Supply by Tedman: 12:24pm On Feb 02, 2015 |
While I do admire Chimamanda Adichie's literary prowess, this article here to me is an overkill, as the picture she painted of Nigeria's power supply is but a few shades darker than what it really is. A non-Nigerian, upon reading this article would think we were using streams and ponds to generate electricity for our daily usage. 2 Likes |
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