The following speech was delivered by anti Zionist Orthodox Jews at the “Emergency Protest to Stop the Massacre in Gaza” rally, Rockefeller Center, New York City, December 27, 2008, 2.00 PM and again at a Protest in London on December 28, 2008

(This speech was originally delivered in Durban, South Africa by Rabbi Y D Weiss)

May our words be pleasing to the Creator and cause His Great Name to be sanctified.

Assalaam Aleikhum:

The world stands aghast as the atrocities being committed by the Zionist regime in Gaza, becomes known in ever greater and shocking detail.

Mere words are insufficient to express the pain that all mankind feels at the plight of the Gaza and Palestinian people.

For over one hundred years, they have been subject to a carefully conceived plan, to drive them from their homes and their land.

Throughout their history, the Zionists have resorted to intimidation, war, ethnic cleansing and state—sponsored terrorism to achieve their goals.

This is, has been and continues to be, the criminal agenda of the Zionist movement. But among this movement’s greatest crimes, is that it has claimed to carry out these nefarious actions in the name of holiness, in the name of the Almighty, in the name of Judaism and the Jewish people !!

This is a wicked and monstrous lie !!

It is a desecration of our religion !!

Judaism forbids and rejects Zionism and the existence of the State of “Israel”. We have been expressly commanded by the Almighty that we are forbidden to have our own sovereignty in this heavenly decreed exile, we are also forbidden to rebel against any nation. Torah believing Jews, under the leadership of the most esteemed rabbis of the 20th century have always opposed and fought against Zionism and ultimately the State of “Israel”.

Unfortunately in recent years the Zionists have succeed in seducing and co—opting members of the religious community and some rabbis into support of not allowing the return of the rightful owners, the Palestinian people, to their land, by fear mongering, by appealing to their worst fears, that there is a religious conflict and that the Arabs always have had an ingrained hate for the Jews. Especially, they claim, that because of the many years of the existence of the State of “Israel”, if the Palestinians where to return to their land, they would massacre the Jews, may the Almighty protect us.

Anyone familiar with the ploys and techniques of the Zionist State is aware of this fact.

Before the advent of Zionism, Muslims and Christian, Arabs and Jews, lived peacefully together in the Holy Land, as in all the Muslim lands, — Ask your grandparents! — They remember those peaceful days! And in fact it is here the opportune time to thank all the Muslim countries for their extraordinary friendship, hospitality and safe haven that they have provided to the Jewish people throughout the ages!

The Zionists rely on the Bible, the Torah, for their imaginary right to ethnically cleanse the Palestinian people and to subjugate them. This is a pathetic joke! The Zionists have always been heretics and rejected all the fundamental tenets of our faith, and yet they have the nerve, the arrogance, the audacity, the chutzpa, to pretend to base their behavior on our holy Torah.

We know what our holy writings and our great rabbis have taught us — that we are forbidden to subjugate or oppress anyone or to desecrate the holiness of the Holy Land with paths of violence, ethnic cleansing, discrimination and military power. Our religion teaches justice. It teaches peace. It teaches compassion. In fact, the greatest and ultimate hope and prayer of the Jewish people is, that when the Messiah comes that then “Nation shall no longer lift up sword against nation, and they will make war no more.” All nations will serve God together in peace.

To the governments of the world, it is not through your support of the Zionist regime — the State of “Israel”, that the Jewish people are being helped! On the contrary, this tragic historical mistake has led to the killing of Arabs and Jews alike. The governments of the great powers, by supporting the State of “Israel” are not only harming the Palestinian people but they are also unwittingly contributing to the growth of hostility towards Jews worldwide!

To our Jewish brethren, we beg! Do not be intimidated by ruthless Zionist bullying and violence!! — Proclaim loudly and clearly your outrage, pain and sympathy for the people of Gaza and that those who show contempt for the Torah, the teachings of our rabbis, and disregard the ethical and moral basics of our faith, have no right to speak on behalf of the Jewish People or Judaism!

We must tell the world that self rule, sovereignty and ALL the rights of the Palestinian people, must be restored throughout historic Palestine! This is a requirement of Jewish ethics and values! Jewish justice demands the return of the Palestinian refugees to their homes, towns, villages and cities throughout Palestine! Tell the world, loudly and clearly, that you support Palestinian statehood over the ENTIRE Holy Land —— not despite your Jewish identity, but because of it.

To our Islamic brethren – let us speak up for the people of Gaza and please do not judge the Jewish faith or its people, on the basis of this passing lunacy of Zionism. The Jews have always been your friends and cousins. Do not allow your understandable anger to be directed at those who are innocent of wrongdoing, regardless of whether they reside in Occupied Palestine, Europe, or anywhere around the globe.

Together, people of all nations, may we be worthy, with God’s help, speedily and peacefully, without further suffering and bloodshed of anyone, be it Arab or Jew, to witness the peaceful end of the Zionist occupation over every inch of Palestine.

And may we yet merit to see, in the very near future, the revelation of the One God, over the entire world, with all mankind in His servitude, in joyous brotherhood.

AMEN

Let’s Proclaim Together:
FREE GAZA – FREE PALESTINE
JUDAISM YES ZIONISM NO !



Source: Jews United Against Zionism

[size=18pt]Iranian Jews protest Gaza 'slaughter'[/size]
Dec. 30, 2008
JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST

Different groups representing Iran's Jewish community on Tuesday gathered in front of the United Nations office in Teheran in order to protest "Israeli war crimes and the slaughter of the innocent people in Gaza Strip," the Iranian IRNA news agency reported.

The protesters, led by the Jewish representative in Parliament, Siamak Mara-Sedq, carried placards with anti-Israel slogans in both Farsi and Hebrew, the report said.

"We are here to express our support and sympathy with the Palestinian nation," Rahmatollah Rafi, the chairman of Iran's Jewish community was quoted as saying at the rally.

Hinting mainly at Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the report said that Rafi went on to criticize "certain Arab governments for their inaction and silence towards Israeli inhuman acts and war crimes in Gaza and the entire Palestinian territories."

Separately, IRNA reported that in a Tuesday speech to the Iranian parliament Mara-Sedq "expressed shock" over the "savage acts" perpetrated by "the Tel Aviv regime."

The report said that the Jewish MP "expressed hope that all the peace-loving nations and the true advocates of human rights would thoroughly support the defenseless Palestinian people and make Israel stop the genocide in the region by exerting pressure on Tel Aviv."

He also reportedly gave voice to the "hatred" the Iranian Jewish Community harbors towards "the Israeli crimes."

According to the report, Mara-Sedq's remarks elicited a chorus of anti-Israel and anti-US slogans from members of parliament.

Iranian Jewish leaders are often quoted as having given voice to extreme anti-Israel views, but it is unclear whether these opinions are imposed upon them by the regime.

Some 25,000 Jews live in Iran.

Source: [url=http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?=1230456535610&pagename=JPost%2FJPArticle%2FShowFull]Jerusalem Post[/url]

@RichyBlack
God told the Jews (Torah says) not to go to the promise land until he gives them a sign but the Zionist couldn't wait. By this single act they've collectively disobeyed God. Now am beginning to understand the difference between Judaism and Zionism.
Anyway I get the gist.

Tornadoz:

@RichyBlack
God told the Jews (Torah says) not to go to the promise land until he gives them a sign but the Zionist couldn't wait. By this single act they've collectively disobeyed God. Now am beginning to understand the difference between Judaism and Zionism.
Anyway I get the gist.

Me too, I'm beginning to see Judaism in a different light. Knowing that there are Jews who are not rabid Zionists is very insightful. Now I know the Zionists are just a bunch of hooligans. The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us! Zionism has nothing to do with Judaism and everything to do with the humiliation of Arabs in Palestine, greed and land-grab.

@Tornadoz,

God told the Jews (Torah says) not to go to the promise land until he gives them a sign but the Zionist couldn't wait. By this single act they've collectively disobeyed God. Now am beginning to understand the difference between Judaism and Zionism. Anyway I get the gist.

For the sake of my own personal learning and edification, could you please point to the exact place in the Torah where God told them not to go to the promised land untril He gives them the sign? And what excactky is that sign? For once, it appears you have some information I am interested in. Please kindly enlightene me.
and by the way, where is this Promised Land located?

@RichyBlack,

The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!

So you are now into Judaism? I thought you were a Christian? Talk about identity crisis.

Tayo-D:

@RichyBlack,
So you are now into Judaism? I thought you were a Christian? Talk about identity crisis.

Common, you can't be this daft! Try use your brain for once!

That A and B are subsets of C, does not imply that A = B or that A intersection B is not null. Simple logic like this eludes hypocrites like you!

I have only 3 questions:

1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? _{94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.}

3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

@RichyBlack,

Common, you can't be this daft! Try use your brain for once!

Very typical response from you. I won't respond in kind just so we do not derail this thread.

That A and B are subsets of C, does not imply that A = B or that A intersection B is not null. Simple logic like this eludes hypocrites like you!

You are not making any sense here. You wanna tell us exactly where you stand? Keep in mind that we are talking about Christianity and Judaism here. Does Christianity and Judaism intersect? Can one Are they mutually exclusive?

You declared you are a true follower of Judaism and you use the same mouth to call yourself a Christian. Let me just share Paul's word with you here: Behold, I Paul say unto you, that if ye be circumcised, Christ shall profit you nothing. I hope you understand that what he is essentially saying there ini Hebrews is that Christianity and Judaism are mutually exclusive.

Ahmadinejad 's propaganda

@Tayo-D,

If you don't understand what the following statement means why not ask a more cerebral fellow on your camp to break it down for you.

RichyBlacK:

The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!

How can anybody with a brain interpret the statement above to mean that RichyBlack's religion is Judaism?

Can someone help this guy? Please, I'm begging!

It seems 80% of the misunderstandings on Nairaland can be attributed to poor understanding of Math and English.

@RichyBlack,

If you don't understand what the following statement means why not ask a more cerebral fellow on your camp to break it down for you.

Don't patronise yourself.

How can anybody with a brain interpret the statement above to mean that RichyBlack's religion is Judaism? Can someone help this guy? Please, I'm begging! It seems 80% of the misunderstandings on Nairaland can be attributed to poor understanding of Math and English.

You must be feeling cool with yourself thinking you are smart. A simple search online will shine some light on your ignorance. Let me help you here.

A follower of Judaism = Jew (hopefully, you can distinguish btw ethnicity and faith here)

A follower of Christianity = Christian

A follower of Islam = Muslim.

You will do well to not use a phrase you do not understand next time. You might want to check out wiki answers: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_are_the_followers_of_Judaism&alreadyAsked=1&rtitle=Followers_of_judaism

Naijex:

Ahmadinejad 's propaganda

True. Paid agents.

If these ''Zionists'' are a subset of Jews in Israel, and they don't have the support of the general populace in Israel, I believe they would have been voted out easily by now.

Iranian Jews should please go home (to Israel) - if they can, and join other Jews to vote in someone who shares their idea of a sovereign Israel.

Tayo-D:

@RichyBlack,
Don't patronise yourself.
You must be feeling cool with yourself thinking you are smart. A simple search online will shine some light on your ignorance. Let me help you here.

A follower of Judaism = Jew (hopefully, you can distinguish between ethnicity and faith here)

A follower of Christianity = Christian

A follower of Islam = Muslim.

You will do well to not use a phrase you do not understand next time. You might want to check out wiki answers: http://wiki.answers.com/Q/Who_are_the_followers_of_Judaism&alreadyAsked=1&rtitle=Followers_of_judaism

You forgot to define "Zionist". Thanks.

@to all haters of truth,

Eye sees what it wishes seeing!

God free Palestine.

davidylan:

I have only 3 questions:

1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? _{94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.}

3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

The protest are comming from all over the world.

I was personally at a rally in London Tralfeger square on saturday and i spoke to 10 jewish Rabbis i repeat full bearded Jewish Rabbis who carried posters and explained and exposed the evil ideology of Zionism.,

I would post the pictures and interviews here.

Like i would always say Zionism is an ideology that some christians even adopt to in the US.

Lagosboy:

The protest are comming from all over the world.

I was personally at a rally in London Tralfeger square on saturday and i spoke to 10 jewish Rabbis i repeat full bearded Jewish Rabbis who carried posters and explained and exposed the evil ideology of Zionism.,

I would post the pictures and interviews here.

Like i would always say Zionism is an ideology that some christians even adopt to in the US.

you answered not a single one of my questions . . . please try again.

I have only 3 questions:

1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? _{94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.}

3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

@RichyBlack,

You forgot to define "Zionist". Thanks.

Now he is changing the goal post. Are you trying to divert the discussion from where it began in order to save face? You claimed you are a follower of Judaism, and when I exposed your identity crisis, you are now telling me to define who a Zionist is. Are you for real?

You could have simply said your statement doesn't really reflect your intentions. That is okay. We all make mistakes and time and again, we get betrayed by our inability to adequately express our thoughts. Your game does not speak well of you at all.

1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

The horde of protesters the world over are decent people with conscience and have nothing to do with Islam (moi included).

2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? 94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.

The schools, colleges, universities,mosques that are being bombed are inhabited by only "terrorist"?

3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

How many threads have you started that has "Darfur" in its title? In the Foreign Affairs section of Nairaland you started at least 5 topics and all has to do with Israel. Don't let truth get in the way of your lies and hatred of Palestinians.

Tornadoz:

The horde of protesters the world over are decent people with conscience and have nothing to do with Islam (moi included).

Escaped the question. Here it is again - 1. Why are the "protests" coming from mainly muslims?

Tornadoz:

The schools, colleges, universities,mosques that are being bombed are inhabited by only "terrorist"?

Question again skillfully dodged. Here it is again - 2. What is the definition of a "massacre"? _{94% of all those killed in Gaza so far are militants.}

Tornadoz:

How many threads have you started that has "Darfur" in its title? In the Foreign Affairs section of Nairaland you started at least 5 topics and all has to do with Israel. Don't let truth get in the way of your lies and hatred of Palestinians.

Again artfully dodged the question. Here it is again - 3. Where were these muslim professional "protesters" of Israel all the while when 2 million muslims were dying in Darfur?

Iranian Jews protest Gaza 'slaughter'
Dec. 30, 2008
JPost.com Staff , THE JERUSALEM POST

Different groups representing Iran's Jewish community on Tuesday gathered in front of the United Nations office in Teheran in order to protest "Israeli war crimes and the slaughter of the innocent people in Gaza Strip," the Iranian IRNA news agency reported.

The protesters, led by the Jewish representative in Parliament, Siamak Mara-Sedq, carried placards with anti-Israel slogans in both Farsi and Hebrew, the report said.

"We are here to express our support and sympathy with the Palestinian nation," Rahmatollah Rafi, the chairman of Iran's Jewish community was quoted as saying at the rally.

Hinting mainly at Egypt and Saudi Arabia, the report said that Rafi went on to criticize "certain Arab governments for their inaction and silence towards Israeli inhuman acts and war crimes in Gaza and the entire Palestinian territories."

Separately, IRNA reported that in a Tuesday speech to the Iranian parliament Mara-Sedq "expressed shock" over the "savage acts" perpetrated by "the Tel Aviv regime."

The report said that the Jewish MP "expressed hope that all the peace-loving nations and the true advocates of human rights would thoroughly support the defenseless Palestinian people and make Israel stop the genocide in the region by exerting pressure on Tel Aviv."

He also reportedly gave voice to the "hatred" the Iranian Jewish Community harbors towards "the Israeli crimes."

According to the report, Mara-Sedq's remarks elicited a chorus of anti-Israel and anti-US slogans from members of parliament.

Iranian Jewish leaders are often quoted as having given voice to extreme anti-Israel views, but it is unclear whether these opinions are imposed upon them by the regime.
Some 25,000 Jews live in Iran.

Source: Jerusalem Post

the highlighted part says it all.
Don't you want them to sleep at night?
Don';t you realize they live with wild animals who want Israel annihilated?
Can anyone blame these helpless souls?
richy you should be smarter than this na

*osisi*:



the highlighted part says it all.
Don't you want them to sleep at night?
Don';t you realize they live with wild animals who want Israel annihilated?
Can anyone blame these helpless souls?
richy you should be smarter than this na

my dear sister how can you ask smartness from a person whose judgement is so perfectly flawed.

happy new year to you and all my brother family

To the original post

The beauty of democracy
Can you imagine protests in Iran,Islamabad and Saudi against Islamic terrorism?
I promise you a sea of red with heads littered all over the place amidst a popular chant that starts with an "a"

JJYOU:

my dear sister how can you ask smartness from a person whose judgement is so perfectly flawed.

happy new year to you and all my brother family

my dear happy new year and God's abundance to your family too.


regarding the topic,let the hamas apologists warn them ahead of time after this, to keep their rockets to themselves

Tayo-D:

@RichyBlack,
Now he is changing the goal post. Are you trying to divert the discussion from where it began in order to save face?  You claimed you are a follower of Judaism, and when I exposed your identity crisis, you are now telling me to define who a Zionist is.  Are you for real?

You could have simply said your statement doesn't really reflect your intentions.  That is okay.  We all make mistakes and time and again, we get betrayed by our inability to adequately express our thoughts.  Your game does not speak well of you at all.

[size=18pt]Tayo-D,

Please show me where I claimed to be a follower of Judaism.[/size]

@RichyBlack,

Tayo-D,
Please show me where I claimed to be a follower of Judaism.

Are you for real? Is this a genuine case of forgetfullness or is it selective amnesia? 

Here is your Statement Richy:  The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!  As long as you do not edit it, here is where the statement was made
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-214221.0.html#msg3299520

These are the true Jews Muslims and Allah loves. Allah Himself says: ". . . Of them are some who are moderate (true Jews) but many of them are evil livers (bloody Zionists)"

Tayo-D:

@RichyBlack,
Are you for real? Is this a genuine case of forgetfullness or is it selective amnesia? 

Here is your Statement Richy:  The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!  As long as you do not edit it, here is where the statement was made
https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-214221.0.html#msg3299520

@Tayo-D,

Are you too for real? You mean you don't understand that statement? Now I can see that you may have problems interpreting simple English!

The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!

Let me break it down for you again:
*Some followers of Judaism, e.g. Rabbi Moshe Hirsch belong to set G
*RichyBlack belongs to set G
*Set G is the set of people who are anti-Zionists

As far as that statement goes, the only thing I share with followers of Judaism who are anti-Zionists (like Rabbi Moshe Hirsch) is that I'm also an anti-Zionist! How does that make me a Jew?


It's like a French man saying: "The real Canadians are those who speak French, like us!"

How can you interpret this to mean the French man is claiming to be Canadian? My gosh! Learn English please!

@Richy,

My error. I guess I read your input in haste.

I had planned to ask you some questions earlier, which I did in part ask Tornadoz. What do you mean by the real Jews are anti-zionists? Tornadoz is yet to respond to my questions and I hope you'll be able to do just that. You mentioned during one of our discussions that asking questions might help clarify people's positions. I guess I'll take the first step in that direction.

Tayo-D:

@Richy,

My error.  I guess I read your input in haste.

I had planned to ask you some questions earlier, which I did in part ask Tornadoz.  What do you mean by the real Jews are anti-zionists?  Tornadoz is yet to respond to my questions and I hope you'll be able to do just that.  You mentioned during one of our discussions that asking questions might help clarify people's positions. I guess I'll take the first step in that direction.

Thank God that's over! It's all good. I think we should read each post with more open mind and ask when things are not clear. Thanks.

Well, Zionism is only a political movement and has zero connection to the Judaism. The politicians who hatched the ideas guiding Zionism did so for purely political reasons.

See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Jewish.

@RichyBlack,

Thank God that's over! It's all good. I think we should read each post with more open mind and ask when things are not clear. Thanks.

That is true. But more noteworthy is your gracious attitude after being proved right. I wish debates on nairaland will be done with such spirit.

Well, Zionism is only a political movement and has zero connection to the Judaism. The politicians who hatched the ideas guiding Zionism did so for purely political reasons.
See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Zionism#Jewish.

I don't think you got my question right. I udnerstand what zionism is all about and the position of anti-zionists. What I have failed to grasp is how some anti-zionists put a spiritual slant on their position to declare that they are the real Jews because they oppose the emergence of the State of Isreal.

Here is what Tornadoz said earlier: God told the Jews (Torah says) not to go to the promise land until he gives them a sign but the Zionist couldn't wait. By this single act they've collectively disobeyed God. Now am beginning to understand the difference between Judaism and Zionism. His statement raises some salient points which I will love explained. These are:

1. Where in the Torah did God say they shouldn't go to the promised land?
2. What is this sign Tornadoz is talking about?
3. Where exactly is this promised land?
4. There is a veiled notion is his statement that if God really took them to the Promised land, it will be without the bloodshed we are seeing now.

Do you have any response to all this? I will still try and go through the wikipedia posts anyway.

@RichyBlack

RichyBlacK:

@Tayo-D,

Are you too for real? You mean you don't understand that statement? Now I can see that you may have problems interpreting simple English!

The true followers of Judaism are anti-Zionists, like us!

Let me break it down for you again:
*Some followers of Judaism, e.g. Rabbi Moshe Hirsch belong to set G
*RichyBlack belongs to set G
*Set G is the set of people who are anti-Zionists

As far as that statement goes, the only thing I share with followers of Judaism who are anti-Zionists (like Rabbi Moshe Hirsch) is that I'm also an anti-Zionist! How does that make me a Jew?


It's like a French man saying: "The real Canadians are those who speak French, like us!"

How can you interpret this to mean the French man is claiming to be Canadian? My gosh! Learn English please!

Tayo repeated you said you were a Jew for like 10 times. If I were you I wouldn't have been so magnanimous in accepting his grovelling apology.
I'd have exposed the fraud that he is and  if I were Tayo I'd have considered a crash course in English. There must be night colleges scattered all around the US, he has no right to be STUPID.
Bruahaaaaaaa!!