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Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by plaetton: 4:33pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
400billionman:.. Living extravagant on charity. That is the point that all these apologists deliberately sidestep. 1 Like |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by vooks: 4:33pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
It is mighty dumb to DEMAND that a minister needs Economics 101 lessons before settling on a ride. What else do they need, Gini index? Funny and petty negro plaetton: |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by Nobody: 4:34pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
saxywale: truth |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by EngrRolly(m): 4:35pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
Defcon1:Our Father didn't wish any of His children to be Poor,for we av already been made rich..for Those who are poor like u said,their destinies are in their hands 1 Like |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by hamilton62(m): 4:36pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
36STATES:Woooow! You just discovered? Let me tell you about me a bit. I am a conman in Christ Jesus and a son with the priviledge of a supernatural wealthy father... I con the devil for my soul sake and for others too without any price nor its tag but if given honorarium, I receive. Jesus is a miracle worker and I am a vessel through which He works His miracles that means I hawk it for free that's why I am a miracle hawker... I want to start hawking it in your life brother now. Honour God, Serve God sincerely with honesty and whole heartedly and if God doesn't give you a life far better than this you have now, tell me I will resign and why will I? Because my Lord Jehovah Jireh via His son Jesus Christ is ever faithful to fail His heirs! Thanks and God bless you In Jesus Name (Amen). 1 Like |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by vooks: 4:37pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
Wrong again bro, they are earning they pay just like you....that's not charity but they right plaetton: |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by EngrRolly(m): 4:39pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
400billionman:pls read ur comment once again |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by 400billionman: 4:39pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
plaetton: Nigerian pastors won't find it easy living the way they do in advanced countries, living like kings on peoples contributions.. Just like Nigerian thieving politicians thrive on diverted tax payers money. What's the difference between a Nigerian pastor and politician ? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by Precide(m): 4:42pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
finofaya:leave those poverty ridden pple jare. Shld ha have rejected the car gift? Coz i knw it must hav been bought for him. I saw d c'mnt of a guy dat wrote "i left my baptist church for a smaller church". That's just a typical example of xtians that form "holier-than-thou characters 1 Like |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by plaetton: 4:45pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
EngrRolly: This is the mindset of parasites and bloodsuckers Since remote antiquity. The haves always considered the havenots less worthy, subhuman and evil. Yes indeed. Growth, spiritual growth through accumulation. The only problem with this particular philosphy is that it didn't constitute any of the known teachings of Jesus, upon whose teachings christianity is built. So whether you are a Pauline churchtian or whatever you are, you are definitely bringing bad odor to the simple teachings of Jesus. 3 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by femisek(m): 4:50pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
these things are for human beings not for spirit and a pastor first is human before been called to be a pastor.If a pastor can afford it .Then let him/her go for it.life is a choice if he is genuine he will make it to heaven along the pastor that decides to own a 200k car. |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by plaetton: 4:53pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
vooks: You have exposed your moral and intellectual paucity enough already on this forum. You don't need any further help from me. |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by vooks: 4:56pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
You need deliverance from vagueness and cluelessness plaetton: |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by saintemma2(m): 5:00pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:even Jesus Christ used one of the most expensive perfume before he went to heaven. so I don't see any reason why a pastor can not use a car of 30million naira. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by plaetton: 5:01pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
femisek:Afford it what way? Pls what is the dictionary meaning of "Afford"? Afford corrolates with income. Not so? I have asked before. How does a pastor earn income? Is he paid a stipulated salary? Is he paid appearance allowances or bonuses, or does he simply grab church offerings, tithes and seedsowing money (lol) as his income? This is what I want honest christians here to Answer and address. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by mmsen: 5:04pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
dsquare33: German Bishop Accused of Lavish Spending on Himself The bishop, Franz-Peter Tebartz-van Elst, 53, of Limburg, was said to have let the cost of renovating his residence and other church buildings balloon to more than $41 million. The projects drew ridicule in the German news media for luxuries like a $20,000 bathtub, a $1.1 million landscaped garden and plans for an 800-square-foot fitness room — as well as a cross to be suspended from the ceiling of a personal chapel, which necessitated the reopening of a renovated roof. http://www.nytimes.com/2013/10/24/world/europe/vatican-suspends-german-bishop-known-for-spending.html Joyce Meyer: In November 2003, the St. Louis Post-Dispatch published a four-part special report[9] detailing Meyer's "$10 million corporate jet, her husband’s $107,000 silver-gray Mercedes sedan, her $2 million home and houses worth another $2 million for her four children," a $20 million headquarters, furnished with "$5.7 million worth of furniture, artwork, glassware, and the latest equipment and machinery," including a "$30,000 malachite round table, a $23,000 marble-topped antique commode, a $14,000 custom office bookcase, a $7,000 Stations of the Cross in Dresden porcelain, a $6,300 eagle sculpture on a pedestal, another eagle made of silver bought for $5,000, and numerous paintings purchased for $1,000 to $4,000 each," among many other expensive items – all paid for by the ministry. And clearly you have never heard of Benny Hinn or Kenneth Copeland who were both investigated by the US Senate to face financial malpractice claims. The level of brazen ignorance that you have displayed is no longer acceptable in the internet era. To argue that the issue of church leaders abusing the idiocy of their sheep for financial gain as somehow reflective of the 'black man' sounds (even more) stupid particularly when one considers how opulent the Vatican is. http://www.sitenet.com/travelblog/?p=2771 1 Like |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by EngrRolly(m): 5:19pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
plaetton:A sheer perusal of ur comment leaves only one thing certain n that I won't waste any second spellin out. But Bfor I fan the embers of my most recent comment first I wnt u to answer this simple question.why shdnt a pastor or a christian enjoy wealth n prosperity? |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by lockupman(m): 5:24pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
Why should he not? That's even too cheap for a Man of God. quote author=AllNaijaBlogger post=31327714]A week ago, I saw a popular pastor at shoprite coming down from a newer model range rover with a bodyguard. That car should be at least 10-20 million naira. A 2012 range rover sport goes for 11 million naira at least. I do not want to mention the pastor's name so that his members and followers here do not come and bash me. I am a christian but such extravagance bothers me. I just want to know what biblical or commonsense justification can be given for such an expensive asset? [/quote] |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by otiigba1(m): 5:25pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
too many sanctimonious christians every were in nigeria confusing and taking advantange of the gullible the greedy lazy, prosperity seeking nigerians do you know that some of the richest people on earth do not go to church infact they do not even believe in God perharps? |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by plaetton: 5:42pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
EngrRolly:Oh these low iq people. After 9 pages on this thread, you are still asking me that question? Ok let me indulge you and test your honesty. First, no one on this thread has criticized christians or Anyone enjoying wealth. The question on this thread, which the brood of vipers have deliberately sidesteped, is, upon whose shoulders or sweath should a pastor enjoy any type of luxury? Pls tell me, how does a pastor earn an Income that affords him to live in opulence? Pls tell me which Nigerian pastor selfmade himself an lived in opulence before becoming a pastor. All of Nigerias billionaire pastors were dropouts of one occupation or another. Do you think that a pastor should take money from his congregation through various extortion schemes to live an opulent lifestyle? If you have no problems with that, then surely, you and I do not live in the same moral universe. 4 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by DaBullIT(m): 5:46pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Dear OP why the fourk did you create a topic for this? You are saying it is wrong but right at the end of the post, you said you won't mention names because of bashing Spare the rod , spoil the child What is wrong is wrong, no need to hide anyone's identity if you want to drive your point home And una wey follow dey yarn rubbish for comment , Devil don dey put special sulphur and iridium inside una apartment for hell fire 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by innervoice(m): 5:46pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
Greed is the only reason. |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by 1miccza: 5:49pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
Weah96: Can you see why the Op's asking such a question?It goes to say that any man of God that makes Creflo Dollar his icon would want to be as wealthy and posh as he is how does all those wealth glorify God or edify him or better still attract people to heaven? |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by harry509: 5:51pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger:HE who work 4 d LORD must eat abondantly. |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by 1miccza: 5:51pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
plaetton: Good question bro oya make una come answer ooo |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by Nobody: 5:55pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
JoeCutie: It has always been this way since the days of Abraham - nuttin changes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by chucktoon: 6:05pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
wonlasewonimi: You obviously don't know how it starts, after getting tired of a #10M land-based vehicle, next thing is craving for an aircraft. Then, owning one isn't enough, getting a fleet would be the in thing. The Lord already warned of covetousness and by their fruits, you shall know them. |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by EngrRolly(m): 6:16pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
plaetton:I only asked u a simple question n yet u cudnt answer it,yet u tlk of low IQ.I am so sorry bloke,diz altercations hav shown d severity of ur ineptitude to converse |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by nelsonoba: 6:44pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
AllNaijaBlogger: Mr man you better stop deceiving yourself in the name of trying to be religious. If God blesses you now with a Range Rover, won't you accept it!!! The heaven you want to go to, is it different from the heaven the Man of God wants to go to? If not so, then why the double standard? God is not a respecter of persons, and what He does for one, he can do for another! If God can bless you with material possession, He can also bless any other person including Men of God with it, and you cannot question God for it. Go and read the book of 3John 1:2 and you will see what God's view on prosperity is. Your only concern with prosperity should be how to use it to help as many people as possible when God blesses you whether as a Pastor or ordinary church member and not to stay there criticizing the fact that God has blessed some Men of God. For your information, God is not wicked and He rewards people who serve Him genuinely with blessings here on earth and even in heaven. If your boss in the office can reward you with a salary at the end of the month after working for him, is God not wiser than your boss to understand that "the labourer is worthy of his wages" Then why should you get jealous or angry when God rewards or pays His own servants with material blessings?? 2 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by Wahala90: 6:50pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
I think that those of you who think a pastor should not drive a 10m car have poverty infested mindset. What you don't know is that only one young man can buy 6 of such cars and share to people that has influenced his life positively. 2 Likes |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by nelsonoba: 7:04pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
plaetton: I have not met you physically before, but from your comments, i can tell you are not a christian, but even if you say you are one, then it's obvious YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE!!! You probably go to work everyday trying to hustle for money so you can enjoy a good life, but you are here complaining that some people who work for God are getting blessed with the same material things that you too also goes out for everyday to be able to acquire! I see in you a type of "so-called christian" who doesn't know God! You are the type of christian who doesn't believe everything in God's word in the bible, and that is why you know it is clear in the bible that Fornication is a sin, but you can't stay away from sex outside marriage!! I mean you!!! In as much as covetousness is a sin, and God's word is clearly against greed & covetousness, but God still has His own way and time for blessing those who genuinely serve Him. Go and read 3John 1:2 to see what it says about genuine prosperity! |
Re: Why Should A Pastor Drive A 10 Million Naira Car? by Sunglow: 7:04pm On Mar 08, 2015 |
otiigba1:Fine then u can go ahead and be poor its your life not mine.'For He (Christ) became poor that we thur His poverty might be rich'go read your bible.poverty is of the devil |
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