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Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by blym4real: 4:20am On Mar 08, 2015

All atheist on nairaland I will like to hear your views about the existence and potency of african voodoo
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Danhumprey: 4:26am On Mar 08, 2015
^^^


Interesting analysis!wink
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wiegraf: 4:48am On Mar 08, 2015
It's as potent as regular prayer

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by blym4real: 4:51am On Mar 08, 2015
wiegraf:
It's as potent as regular prayer
Are you an atheist?
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wiegraf: 4:55am On Mar 08, 2015
blym4real:

Are you an atheist?

Yes
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by blym4real: 5:03am On Mar 08, 2015
wiegraf:


Yes
but as an atheist you don't beleive in any God or gods or deity, but most african voodoo has to do with the worship of some deity.
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wiegraf: 5:16am On Mar 08, 2015
blym4real:

but as an atheist you don't beleive in any God or gods or deity, but most africa voodoo has to do with the worship of some deity.

That's sort of my point

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by blym4real: 5:20am On Mar 08, 2015
wiegraf:


That's sort of my point
If you believe in the efficacy of the voodoo, that confirms that their unseen deity is real.
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wiegraf: 6:19am On Mar 08, 2015
blym4real:

If you believe in the efficacy of the voodoo, that confirms that their unseen deity is real.

Where did I state I believe in the efficacy of juju?

You agree juju is a form of prayer, yes? Now, which kind of 'atheist' would believe in prayer??

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by blym4real: 7:09am On Mar 08, 2015
wiegraf:


Where did I state I believe in the efficacy of juju?

You agree juju is a form of prayer, yes? Now, which kind of 'atheist' would believe in prayer??
It's as potent as
regular prayer
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wiegraf: 4:05pm On Mar 08, 2015
blym4real:

It's as potent as
regular prayer

This answer I give 5/10

Now, how potent is regular prayer?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prayer

wiki:
Scientific studies regarding the use of prayer have mostly concentrated on its effect on the healing of sick or injured people. Meta-studies of the studies in this field have been performed showing evidence only for no effect or a potentially small effect. For instance, a 2006 meta analysis on 14 studies concluded that there is "no discernable effect" while a 2007 systemic review of studies on intercessory prayer reported inconclusive results, noting that 7 of 17 studies had "small, but significant, effect sizes" but the review noted that the most methodologically rigorous studies failed to produce significant findings.[2][3] Some studies have indicated increased medical complications in groups receiving prayer over those without.[4][5] The efficacy of petition in prayer for physical healing to a deity has been evaluated in numerous other studies, with contradictory results.[6][7][8][9] There has been some criticism of the way the studies were conducted.[5][10]

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by ladon1: 7:30pm On Mar 08, 2015
The most stupid comment i ever heard someone made was that death gave birth to life. That is stupidity of the highest level. Same with someone saying darkness gave birth to light. Education can never help the spiritual condition of a natural man.
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by davien(m): 7:48pm On Mar 08, 2015
ladon1:
The most stupid comment i ever heard someone made was that death gave birth to life. That is stupidity of the highest level. Same with someone saying darkness gave birth to light. Education can never help the spiritual condition of a natural man.
You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Nobody: 7:53pm On Mar 08, 2015
blym4real:

All atheist on nairaland I will like to hear your views about the existence and potency of african voodoo

to me african voodoo is silly and ridiculous, it requires 'faith' and or 'belief' to work, much like 'placebo effect'
it doesn't proof the existence of any god/gods,
the fact is that there are dimensions/levels of energy that we do not understand and have no objective way to measure, so we call it black magic.

damn it !!!

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by plaetton: 8:04pm On Mar 08, 2015
wiegraf:
It's as potent as regular prayer

Lol.
These people make me laugh.
What good is a spell if couldnt stop infants from dying of malaria?

What good is spell if it couldnt help your army repel knives and bullets from those who conquered, looted and enslaved you and your kin?

Need I go on?

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by plaetton: 8:06pm On Mar 08, 2015
The problem with Africans is that we hardly do an audit of most of the silly things we believe.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wirinet(m): 8:13pm On Mar 08, 2015
davien:
You know darkness is merely a lack of photons...

You are wrong on so many levels. Darkness is not merely the lack of photons, darkness is the inability of man's brains (through his eyes) to process a wider range of energy. What man calls light is the ability of man's brain to be snsitive to a very narrow range of energy (photons if you like).

A pitch dark night is not neccessarily dark to dogs, bats, sharks, and other animals.

I say darkness is an inability to sense certain range of energies.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by wirinet(m): 8:26pm On Mar 08, 2015
As per the potency of African JUJU or any other juju, i would say it is mainly hogwash. Juju has been shown to be ineffectual, useless and unrealiable. If Afican juju is that potent, Africa (black) would not be the most backward continent on in the world, we would have subdued other races. But the reverse was the case, Arabs came subdued and enslaved us, the Europeans came subdued and enslaved us and colonized us. So what use is the Juju if it cannot protect us from invaders.

Juju only thrives in areas salvaged by poverty, ignorance and diseases. Like my friend always says witches and wizzards are killed inside an airconditioned environment, they only thrive in poverty striken face me i face you arrangements in the ghettos or in the villages. Meaning you will not hear of witches or juju in V/I, Ikoyi or Maitama. You will only hear of juju in Otueke, Daura anf shaki.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Nobody: 8:34pm On Mar 08, 2015
wirinet:


You are wrong on so many levels. Darkness is not merely the lack of photons, darkness is the inability of man's brains (through his eyes) to process a wider range of energy. What man calls light is the ability of man's brain to be snsitive to a very narrow range of energy (photons if you like).

A pitch dark night is not neccessarily dark to dogs, bats, sharks, and other animals.

I say darkness is an inability to sense certain range of energies.

I think you mean electromagnetic waves

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by onetrack(m): 8:35pm On Mar 08, 2015
Sweden has done quite well, given that, not only do they have no juju, but only about 3% of them actually go to church.

How did tiny Belgium take over the Congo in the face of all that juju? (by the way, the answer that I have been given by a believer in juju is that African juju only works for certain things, and does not repel invaders)

I would love to see a test carried out: two groups of people are isolated and given the same land and resources, one of whom practices no religion or juju and instead just works and develops their resources; the other does no work but just practices religion or juju. Who will come out ahead?

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Nobody: 8:36pm On Mar 08, 2015
plaetton:


Lol.
These people make me laugh.
What good is a spell if couldnt stop infants from dying of malaria?

What good is spell if it couldnt help your army repel knives and bullets from those who conquered, looted and enslaved you and your kin?

Need I go on?

I think he was being sarcastic grin
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by plaetton: 9:35pm On Mar 08, 2015
DProDG:


I think he was being sarcastic grin
I know

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by davien(m): 9:59pm On Mar 08, 2015
wirinet:


You are wrong on so many levels. Darkness is not merely the lack of photons, darkness is the inability of man's brains (through his eyes) to process a wider range of energy. What man calls light is the ability of man's brain to be snsitive to a very narrow range of energy (photons if you like).

A pitch dark night is not neccessarily dark to dogs, bats, sharks, and other animals.

I say darkness is an inability to sense certain range of energies.
If this is an attempt at a catchy come-back then you're wrong......in the sense that one can't say "inability to sense certain ranges of energy" because a photon is by definition a unit of energy(an electromagnetic one) and once one can't sense it, it becomes darkness thus reaffirming my statement and those animals that "see in the dark" merely have acute sense's for setting below the visible spectrum of light....so it's basically the same thing....no photons,no light....How can you even object to that undecided

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by johnydon22(m): 10:30pm On Mar 08, 2015
I once engaged on a heated argument with my friends on supernatural powers, i argued it doesnt work that its just mere parlour tricks.. One claim voodoo is real and charms, the other believed the potency of prayers, luckily we were in the village of the one who believed the potency of voodoo (ezeagu in enugu state) for the burial of his uncle in short the talk of spirits started the argument..

He said he will bring a powerful medicine man to show me something the next while the other said with prayers he can do all things.

The next day the voodoo man came and i was called.

I told them i will give them a simple task, dropped my last #5,000 as a stake.

Then i layed two stones on a small kitchen stool, told the voodoo man to make it fall from the stool without touching it and the prayer guy to pray it down from the stool without touching it.. whoever does it will take my last card, i sat on a plastic chair watching them with a silly ear to ear grin grin

My christian friend that claimed all powerful rejected the contest straight away saying he doesn't want to test his god. cheesy

The medicine man spent almost 10minutes with his bag searching for something that seems not to want to found..lol.

He left and told my friend he will be back...

I picked my money, laughed my rib cage out then i carefully pushed the stone out of the stool turned to my friends and said.

"I just did what your God and voodoo can't"

[size=20] voodoo are mere parlour tricks and wishful thinking in a wider scale ...lol grin[/size]

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by lepasharon(f): 3:20am On Mar 09, 2015
onetrack:
Sweden has done quite well, given that, not only do they have no juju, but only about 3% of them actually go to church.

How did tiny Belgium take over the Congo in the face of all that juju? (by the way, the answer that I have been given by a believer in juju is that African juju only works for certain things, and does not repel invaders)

I would love to see a test carried out: two groups of people are isolated and given the same land and resources, one of whom practices no religion or juju and instead just works and develops their resources; the other does no work but just practices religion or juju. Who will come out ahead?


It's hard to be pro-black when the race is so stu.pid.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Jameselias: 8:02am On Mar 09, 2015
The whites are actually afraid of the powers in an african traditional religion, esp: during the colonial era, thus they through manipulative and force means lure us africans away from it and replaced it, gave us powerless, fake, nonsense, and useless, fables good for notin if not slavery and called it religion, they feared the powers in our ancestorial religion is detrimental to thier slave programe thus they termed it evil, they feared with it africans will over power them one day, hence they did every thing, and are still doing to lure us away from it ,they used force and even demonized it, and it seems as if they succeseded but there are still reminant,
just imagine had africans retained the means to powers as found in their religion coupled with the knowledge of modern science to day,
chai! who be the whites self!
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by onetrack(m): 9:12am On Mar 09, 2015
Jameselias:
The whites are actually afraid of the powers in an african traditional religion, esp: during the colonial era, thus they through manipulative and force means lure us africans away from it and replaced it, gave us powerless, fake, nonsense, and useless, fables good for notin if not slavery and called it religion, they feared the powers in our ancestorial religion is detrimental to thier slave programe thus they termed it evil, they feared with it africans will over power them one day, hence they did every thing, and are still doing to lure us away from it ,they used force and even demonized it, and it seems as if they succeseded but there are still reminant,
just imagine had africans retained the means to powers as found in their religion coupled with the knowledge of modern science to day,
chai! who be the whites self!

So the whites were so afraid of the power of African juju that they.....destroyed it? Doesn't sound like the juju had any power in the first place.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Jameselias: 9:57am On Mar 09, 2015
The juju had no power of it's own but through the act of those who are adept at it, power is gained,
ur ancestors thought that the whites had come to introduce them to another more powerful art than they alredy know but alas! They were decieved.
Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Weah96: 11:44am On Mar 09, 2015
No African team has ever won the FIFA World Cup, so no, it doesn't work.

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Re: Atheist Please Educate Me On The Existence And Potency Of African Voodoo by Nobody: 11:54am On Mar 09, 2015
Juju is very powerful! That's why US, China and Russia use it to fight their wars. Guns are sooooo overrated! grin

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