When the likes of Snoop and Kanya start singing then u know Rap is in trouble.
When rappers can't capture peoples attention lyrically and so resort to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling, then Rap is in shit.
Rap as we knew it from the days of KRS one and Rakim was all about sending out a message thru lyrics. Can't even name one local rap artist in Naija who can truly be called a rapper.
Surely, when people like Nas leave the stage, that would mark the end of Rap as a music genre.

Kanya

Kanye i'm sure he meant.
@Poster
I agree. Rap is now a mockery. Even Common i used to hold in high esteem is messing up. I still love the likes of Talib Kweli though.

It's the devil,
LOL, !
Look on the bright side, MI is repping us.
The game has changed, Rap music has evolved.
The major issue is that MTV decides what rappers turn out nowadays,
Pray,
LOL

Aqva:

Can't even name one local rap artist in Naija who can truly be called a rapper.

Mode 9 & M.I are really reping Naija

Aqva:

When rappers can't capture peoples attention lyrically and so resort to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling, then Rap is in shit.

Nothing like old school rap, that's when it was groovy.

Please please please, trying not to curse.Ye that speak about rap being crucified are not distant from the truth,incidentally the current scene starting from 01/02 has kicked my interest in rap out the window.However I dare say all hope is not lost as over the last 3 years my fellow home-bred brethrens have rekindled that light.It started in the days of Trybes then the beef btw the wack (eedris) and semi-wack (rugged) then to hearing Mode 9 and thinking, thats hot,then came along Sauce and my gawd he's good.Within a flick Naeto eased in with Ikechuckwu (alien) and the fire started to brew then all of a "suddenly" (like dbanj) M.I dropped on the scene.Now tell me if you had a compilation of these cats on an album won't we have a good listen?
For me Mode9,Sauce Kid,M.I rule the game.

Died last millenium

Blame it on the Tall Israelis running the music i ndustry today (BET, MTV,etc). Everything has been commercialized so it only makes sense for them to push quantity and not quality.

Sticky-ied

how can u say rap is dead when rappers like MI have just started singing,

Aqva:

When the likes of Snoop and Kanya Kanye start singing then u know Rap is in trouble.

Well . . . not really - Rap is Music . . . and it helps when rappers have this at the back of their minds when rapping . . . it's also good if they can sing cos it helps them perform the Music Genre called Rap as they truly should . . . they'll understand basic stuff in Music like keys, notes, tonic solfas and so on . . .

Afterall, it's possible to rap off-key  

When rappers can't capture peoples attention lyrically and so resort to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling, then Rap is in poo.

I agree 300%.

Rap as we knew it from the days of KRS one and Rakim was all about sending out a message thru lyrics.

True . . . these catz and their contemporaries began the lyrical side of thangs as far as Rap is concerned.

Can't even name one local rap artist in Naija who can truly be called a rapper.

There are quite a few - Modenine, Terry Tha Rapman, MI, Da Grin (RIP), Blaise . . . they may not be 'there' yet but they're good.

Surely, when people like Nas leave the stage, that would mark the end of Rap as a music genre.

Nas is one of the few rappers out there whose sound appeals to the mainstream without compromising his underground roots . . . his exit will leave a vacuum in the industry . . . but then from an optimistic POV, a handful of other rappers are quite ok - J.Cole's promising . . . Blackthought/Common/Mos' Def are still reppin' . . . and Eminem still spits fiyah sometimes.

As long as they bring out club hits and make d money,2 hell with lyrics. . .or who would want 2 go d mode9 way?

^^Bros, na hw many old u be?

I hate it when rappers sing.especially hat horse face Drake, I prefere J cole to any new cat that is around, Nas sais it the record bosses have messed Rap and killed it, he wa sangry wit L.A reid cos he wanna teach Nas how to do his album under his tenure as a record boss, , how could dat be, Hip hop is dead,

Got seven candles lit, black wallpaper, black carpet
Thinkin' about which nigga to target
You kill a nigga today, he lives forever
So I plotted out smarter, there'll be no Martyrs
Black Tec on the table, Mag .44
Black negligee on my bitch, she's at the door
Black fish eggs, nigga, that's the caviar
You niggaz fish-made, y'all niggaz is fifth grade
Niggaz, it's fifty ways to disect the General
If I give ya the top five, you will not survive
Rule 1: RoosterDrinker, keep my name from your tongue
Rule 2: thought ya knew don't Bleep with God's Son
Rule 3: see, matter fact, I just wait
If y'all reach top five, then I'ma eat y'all alive
Each one of you guys that claim Hip-Hop is still alive
Like y'all ain't in agreement wit Nas
That shit is dead motha'fucka, it's dead bitch NAS "Money Over Bullshit"

Aqva:

When the likes of Snoop and Kanya start singing then u know Rap is in trouble.

So what if Kanye and Snoop are singing, aren't there other rappers??

Aqva:

When rappers can't capture peoples attention lyrically and so resort to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling, then Rap is in poo.

All these have been there since the days of Pac. . . was rap dead then??

Aqva:

Rap as we knew it from the days of KRS one and Rakim was all about sending out a message thru lyrics. Can't even name one local rap artist in Naija who can truly be called a rapper.

If you want to learn, go to school . . . if you want messages, gimme your number, I'll SMS you.

Aqva:

Surely, when people like Nas leave the stage, that would mark the end of Rap as a music genre.

J.Cole, Slaughterhouse, Pill, Lupe Fiasco . . . do you want me to continue??

poweredcom:

I hate it when rappers sing.especially hat horse face Drake

If he's singing, doesn't that just mean he's a rapper when he raps and a singer when he sings??

haha

I have 13gig of old school rap on my lappy from Immortal Technique to Eric B. & Rakim and Modey is my favourite 9ja rapper. That doesn't mean i don't jam commercial. Heck, JayZ said 'if skills sold, truth be told, i'd probably be Talib Kweli'. Me ehn, i'd rather be Naeto C than Modey.

McCoy91:

I have 13gig of old school rap on my lappy from Immortal Technique to Eric B. & Rakim and Modey is my favourite 9ja rapper. That doesn't mean i don't jam commercial. Heck, JayZ said 'if skills sold, truth be told, i'd probably be Talib Kweli'. Me ehn, i'd rather be Naeto C than Modey.

I have 13gig of old school rap on my lappy

Wetin be the bit-rate of those tracks? 1gbps?

ritchboy:

Wetin be the bit-rate of those tracks? 1gbps?

haha Sarcasm Even at 320kbps It'll be like 3000 tracks 

Mobinga:

haha Sarcasm Even at 320kbps It'll be like 3000 tracks 

Una dey vex? Actually, its just over 3000 songs. Na wa oh

Hip Hop Is Dead

bjmighty:

^^Bros, na hw many old u be?

hoe e take relate 2 my post or d post?abi u just wan finish ur time 4 cyber?

Dead and buried!

4 me i have long bliged my r.i.p condolence for rap/hip-hop very long ago. , . may there humble reign continue to rest in peace at varnish, . .

just banging Will Smith oldies trk--summer time

eldee:

All these have been there since the days of Pac. . . was rap dead then??

Nah . . . that's a hasty generalization . . .

Much as I disagreed with several of the OP's points, the task here is to identify the fine/salient points in what he said - he said "When rappers can't capture peoples attention lyrically and so resort to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling . . . "

The question is - did Pac capture people's attention lyrically?? I think he did . . . so even if once in a hundred songs he "resorts to flaunting hot chicks, cars and bling" (I'm certain you're referring to vids for songs like "How Do You Want It", "I Get Around", etc), he ain't on the same level as a Nelly or Fiddy who do that as their overall theme.

Mentioning Pac is totally out of it.

@Bamsyle

If rappers can't capture people's attention lyrically, it's not that they're not lyrical, it's the fact that people decided to pay attention to other things.
It's only reasonable that labels force rappers to do what people now pay attention to.
I've always said it, if Biggie and Pac returned today, they'll most likely be shifting crappy figures.

So it's your fault that rappers jumped on the autotune, it's your fault that gangster music is dead, it's your fault that acts like The Roots never get to MTV, if there was a demand for it, they'll be doing it.

Besides, Pac ain't sum saint . . . in his biggest songs he was either boasting about guns or just erm . . .boasting, how is that different from Jay-Z boasting about G4 pilots??

eldee:

J.Cole, Slaughterhouse, Pill, Lupe Fiasco . . . do you want me to continue??

awww. . . you like Pill. . . that's so cute.

see? one rapper we both like.

This thread is almost 2 years old.
Anyway, rap is only dead if you want it to be. It's not dead to me.

Rap is not dead. Gangsta Rap is .

^^
sense