confetti:
Now what is the difference between Barcanista and FFK?

The diffrences are
1. They stand for good government with fairness
2. They are not supporting APC.
3. Barcanista is being honest.

PassingShot:
OP,

I will take you serious and be ready to engage you in proper debate on this the moment you start to see APC as APC and not tag APC with ACN or any other party. Better still, use individual names in your narrations so that we know what we're dealing with. Besides, we have moved past this stage of apportioning blame here and there. The terrorists are being handled by joint forces from Nigeria, Chad, Cameroon and Niger though it remains a national disgrace that those three neighboring countries need to assist us to deal with them.

Now what is your objective of this thread?

1. Is it to convince anyone that GEJ handled BH as they should have been handled? The answer is "NO" because every sane human knows that he failed woefully to protect the innocent citizens lost to the insurgency.




2. Is it to make us believe that the opposition has a hand in BH? Again, the answer is "NO" because GEJ/PDP have all the state's intelligence services to unravel those who are behind BH. And if they have failed to do that, the blame is fully on them.

We equally know that PDP/GEJ know more than we think we know about the sponsors of BH. So, they are complicit in this mess.


And like you said in the past, in a sane society, GEJ would have long resigned and not even have had the audacity to seek for re-election.

American were not fighting ISIS alone, neither do they fought al~quada alone, we need the coperation of those neighbouring countries if we are to eliminate boko haram.
Take for instance we fight them and the retreate to those countries and mobilizes again it will be war without end.
They too have their roles to play that was why Isreal deal with lebanon during the evolution of Hezbola.

chisco82:

American were not fighting ISIS alone, neither do they fought al~quada alone, we need the coperation of those neighbouring countries if we are to eliminate boko haram.
Take for instance we fight them and the retreate to those countries and mobilizes again it will be war without end.
They too have their roles to play that was why Isreal deal with lebanon during the evolution of Hezbola.

Of course we need the cooperation of our neighbors to defeat BH but this is so because we allowed it to fester to this level. BH is a group we would have defeated long ago without any external help.

PassingShot:


Of course we need the cooperation of our neighbors to defeat BH but this is so because we allowed it to fester to this level. BH is a group we would have defeated long ago without any external help.

You may be right, but i don't see it that way.
You can remember that late yar' dua also went offensive on them then but yet they still exist. One thing about this is that they(Boko Haram) are linked with international terrorist group and thus require international attention too.
Also we and the opposition government never help the matter. Ihejirika went offensive on them and the Arewa group call it genocide and threaten to take him to Icj, same with APC. Untill we live politics out of that issue we can never conquer them.

chisco82:

You may be right, but i don't see it that way.
You can remember that late yar' dua also went offensive on them then but yet they still exist. One thing about this is that they(Boko Haram) are linked with international terrorist group and thus require international attention too.
Also we and the opposition government never help the matter. Ihejirika went offensive on them and the Arewa group call it genocide and threaten to take him to Icj, same with APC. Untill we live politics out of that issue we can never conquer them.

According to intelligence report of USA and other international bodies, Boko Haram didn't have any affiliation with any international terror group. Only few days ago that BH pledged allegiance to ISIS and that's because they realized that they are being overpowered.

You need to understand why the Arewa condemned the military's action then. The fact was that our soldiers were killing innocent people, leveling villages and committing all sorts of atrocities without recourse to rule of engagements.

How come the same Arewa are not condemning the onslaught on BH now? The answer is simple: It is because our military are now going after the main BH and not innocent people. Boko Harams do not live in the villages among the innocent citizens. They live in their own camps as we have seen now and no one will complain about any operation to uproot them from those camps.

PassingShot:



According to intelligence report of USA and other international bodies, Boko Haram didn't have any affiliation with any international terror group. Only few days ago that BH pledged allegiance to ISIS and that's because they realized that they are being overpowered.

You need to understand why the Arewa condemned the military's action then. The fact was that our soldiers were killing innocent people, leveling villages and committing all sorts of atrocities without recourse to rule of engagements.

How come the same Arewa are not condemning the onslaught on BH now? The answer is simple: It is because our military are now going after the main BH and not innocent people. Boko Harams do not live in the villages among the innocent citizens. They live in their own camps as we have seen now and no one will complain about any operation to uproot them from those camps.

Well if that is the case all we need now is to support the government, for me l'm not partisan but i believe in continuity and if we support the government while criyisizing constructively they will serve us better having realize their past mistake.
I don't believe that APC has something better to offer knowing that is those fail pdp members mostly are they made up of.
No doubt Gen Buhari is good, But Looking at his health condion and the people he is sorrounded by Obasanjo and Tinubu has another plan.

chisco82:

Well if that is the case all we need now is to support the government, for me l'm not partisan but i believe in continuity and if we support the government while criyisizing constructively they will serve us better having realize their past mistake.
I don't believe that APC has something better to offer knowing that is those fail pdp members mostly are they made up of.
No doubt Gen Buhari is good, But Looking at his health condion and the people he is sorrounded by Obasanjo and Tinubu has another plan.

While you're right that we need to support the government irrespective of our political stand, I refuse to believe that this current regime as constituted has what it takes to deliver the goods. They have made too many mistakes to reward them with another four years and that's the more reason I am siding with the opposition.

Talking about Buhari surrounding himself with Tinubu or Obasanjo, the fact remains that he is the one that will be held accountable at the end of the day and not Tinubu, Amaechi or Obasanjo. Buhari cannot be a president without other politically sagacious politicians like Tinubu and others. When Buhari refused to associate with some of these people in 2003, 2007 and even in 2011, we all know how those journeys ended. That is the Nigeria we have and it will not change soon. A good politician will unfortunately need to relate with the good, the bad and the ugly to even have a chance of getting the opportunity at serving.

I believe in GMB/PYO ticket to restore our hope and not GEJ who has wasted more than five years in looting, corruption and dividing the country along ethnic and religion lines.

Thank you.

These are all lies peeps. At the nascent stage of BH, it was a rather crude, inexperienced and unorganised group. The police did jungle justice on 'suspected' insurgents. BH started killing and attacking police formations and carting away guns and the military was summoned. Many Nigerians were worried that innocent lives would be lost and sought for amnesty. Let me restate that at that time BH was not what it is today - killing civilians. Many Nigerians including Mr. President thought they were merely aggrieved and an understanding could be reached by amnesty. The military then had started extra judicial killings and Nigerians wanted peace anyhow.
BH had a spokesperson who liased with government but no agreement was reached. They started killing civilians and village heads and later sacking villages because the Nigerian government stalled, slept, and was unconscious of what Islamic fundamentalism could pose to Nigerians.

barcanista:
I don't believe in conspiracy theory, however, Nigerians and the entire world should ponder on the APC's position on Boko Haram since 2013 and decide whether or not the party has been patriotic in their stance. These are the same people accusing Jonathan.
Let us recall that during the Islamic Maitatsine insurgency in 1980s, Buhari as Head of State went fully aggressive without anybody repeatedly opposing him. In fact, opposition to Buhari could fetch one death sentence or jail term. Why couldn't he and his party reciprocate the gesture to GEJ's government?

I want to thank the "APC" dude that proposed my ban to the moderator. I also want to restate my 100% loyalty to the PDP and Goodluck Jonathan's project, and appreciate the government for the huge success over Boko terrorists. #NeverAgain Shall we be deceived.

Guy your write up is not only educative but also informative. I may neither be APC nor PDP, but am man who stand on the side of the truth and nothing but the truth.

PassingShot:


While you're right that we need to support the government irrespective of our political stand, I refuse to believe that this current regime as constituted has what it takes to deliver the goods. They have made too many mistakes to reward them with another four years and that's the more reason I am siding with the opposition.

Talking about Buhari surrounding himself with Tinubu or Obasanjo, the fact remains that he is the one that will be held accountable at the end of the day and not Tinubu, Amaechi or Obasanjo. Buhari cannot be a president without other politically sagacious politicians like Tinubu and others. When Buhari refused to associate with some of these people in 2003, 2007 and even in 2011, we all know how those journeys ended. That is the Nigeria we have and it will not change soon. A good politician will unfortunately need to relate with the good, the bad and the ugly to even have a chance of getting the opportunity at serving.

I believe in GMB/PYO ticket to restore our hope and not GEJ who has wasted more than five years in looting, corruption and dividing the country along ethnic and religion lines.

Thank you.

I believe that you can never succeed in fighting corruption in Nigeria when you have not done a good reform. Seeing the tranformation that is going on now from NRC, Agricultural sector and if GEJ can succeed more in diversifying our economy and create enough job from it, then we and the youth expecially can boldly say no to curruption. Not many people can reject bribery and thug life when they have no source of income and can rearly afford eating 3times daily.
Our people said that when a goat that does n't eat yam begin to following the one that does it will start doing so. So for Gen Buhari to joining those set of people, ... yeye dey smell bro. Remember he must have reach a compromise with them and can he turn against them later,Won't he pay back the money they use to sponsor him? He has no longer Gen Tunde Idiagbon beside him to help him fight corruption and can no longer strongly do anything thing considering his age and health condition.
Thanks sir.

chisco82:

I believe that you can never succeed in fighting corruption in Nigeria when you have not done a good reform. Seeing the tranformation that is going on now from NRC, Agricultural sector and if GEJ can succeed more in diversifying our economy and create enough job from it, then we and the youth expecially can boldly say to to curruption. Not many people can reject bribery and thug life when they have no source of income and can rearly afford eating 3times daily.
Our people said that when a goat that does n't eat yam begin to following the one that does it will start doing so. So for Gen Buhari to joing those set of people, ... yeye dey smell bro. Remember be must have reach a compromise with them and can he turn against them later,Won't he pay back the money they use to sponsor him? He has no longer Gen Tunde Idiagbon beside him to help him fight corruption and no longer strongly do anything thing considering his age and health condition.
Thanks sir.

I do not accept your argument but I'll prefer not go forth and back on this.

Cheers!

PassingShot:


I do not accept your argument but I'll prefer not go forth and back on this.

Cheers!

Is ok.
Thanks so much @least i learnt alot from you today.
Cheers !

ojaydedon:
@barcanista, why were u banned


nice exposition though.. Many nigerians should not forget d past. It matters cos it has a way of influencing what happens in the future.. Many apc supporters are blind to the truth abi brain washed. The truth is that APC just want to get into power by all means so they use the tragedies of the present government against them. If GEJ did what OBJ did in bayelsa, wunt it result into national crises that he is attacking the north? So he is followin the situation the best way he can.. Its not fight for the president alone, cos we all have a part to play if we believe in one nigeria. Let us be the change we want to see in others.. What is the motive of bokoharam?? Who does it benefit?? As we can all see, it is one of the propagandas APC always use against GEJ lets be wise..
Transformation continues
#never again shall we be deceived

normally politicians will always take advantage of each others flaws,but d fundermental question remains,what woke GEJ up? as he has attested to be at sleep btw 2010 and 2015,
How come boko haram gained enuf momentum during the "state of emergency " period?
could it be dat "bokoharam are in his govt "
could it just be one usual negligence on important issues.
or is he outrightly CLUESLESS?

francizy:


Was GEJ supposed to jump in like superman and stop the explosion from occurring? You people speak as if GEJ has spiritual and supernatural powers but refused to use them. If he should have been able to stop that bomb blast from occurring, then USA shoulder been able to stop 9-11 and so many other bomb blast that has/is occurred/occurring in their country. Same goes to England too.

If you say that GEJ should have been able to stop Boko haram easily, when we all know that initially, when BH were bombing churches, most people over there were not only sympathetic about their plight but also took to social media like Facebook and Twitter to jubilate the death of Christians. Many of them knew BH members but would do anything to protect them. They all blended as one and you couldn't differenciate BH members and normal Nigerians. This was why GEJ said BH members are our siblings.

All the hatred coming from these people against the BH as of last two years was because they started bombing Mosques and public places not minding whether a Muslim was there or not.

If they had labelled BH for what it is and helped the government from the onset, BH woulder been history.

I know my comment would spite hate and insults from you people but I always love to say/stand by the truth.

You said it all.

Barcanista,i hail thee.
You are a good researcher. Any team that has u have got a potent weapon. Luckily,you are on my team. I hail thee and as chief zebrudaya said to GEJ last night,i say same to u --- i wish you more sweat in your armpit.

i love this write up cos its precise. Thumbs up Barcanista

ShineuEye:
barcanister should be charged for murdering APC with this article.

This dude barcanister was too intelligent to be resorting to Sai Buhari slogan, way too intelligent to be amongst those who goes from thread to thread repeating same slogan on and on and on.

barcanister welcome home, you were the only light in APC.

Smh

APC a Party with a Faulty Foundation

APC loves boko haram!

Internet never forgets.