Vic2Ree:

On absolute terms however, Sony's slate is just fine. That's how I understand it

pu7pl3:


Well I've shown you where they will be in the next 3 years..your arguement of them not being sure fire hits apply to every single studio in Hollywood...and again I'm not arguing about which studio is better or richer or has more profits(I don't even know where you brought that out from) my stance has always been on the fact that Sony is doing well on their own and they surely have things going for them..you saying you don't know where they will be in 2-3 years is plain ridiculous and myopic

pu7pl3:


Don't just look at it as a CBM fan..they also have fans they cater for especially suckers for original content and this slate means the world to them

Vic2Ree:

Sony (Sony Pictures) is ripe to be purchased by a bigger player. They may be content being arms dealers, but they don't have the finances or IP to scale and compete with the big boys. That's a fact. I'm not saying they can't be successful (profitable) and make great content, they just aren't major players in the new media landscape.

IAmSabrina:

When I say I don't know where they'll be, I mean they could be back in financial trouble. Of course, it's "possible" that Disney could be also, but, given their well known and well liked (not to mention "large" franchises, it's much less likely. Sony's line up could make (or lose) them a lot of money. In other words, things are more stable at Disney and their medium and long term prospects appear to be much brighter. No one can tell the future for sure, but we can make educated guesses based on what we see today.

If me saying I don't know how Sony will be doing in the next few years seems "ridiculous and myopic" to you, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

1000WaysToLive:
I was already planning to put you and pu7pl3 on ignore but I still can see your posts when I log out and you're intentionally misrepresenting my argument here.


While I will no longer respond to either of you, I need to clarify that I never really made the argument that Sony wasn’t successful because of a lack of billion dollar movies.


The whole point of me mentioning Disney live-action and Pixar movies reaching a billion dollars was to illustrate how much more successful Disney is in comparison to Sony, as well as illustrate just how much Sony are intrinsically at a disadvantage when it comes to reliably big successful IP.


They really don’t have much on their plate in the arena. Why is Disney the most successful movie studio for so many years now? ==> https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/lists/studio-by-studio-profitability-ranking-disney-surges-sony-sputters-977497

See the attached image or view the link itself.

The answer lies in them having the most biggest IP at their disposal that consistently deliver great results.

You are using my initial post to try and make a bigger point about profit vs box office like anybody here doesn’t have a basic understanding of how box office works.

SMH

Vic2Ree:

Sony (Sony Pictures) is ripe to be purchased by a bigger player. They may be content being arms dealers, but they don't have the finances or IP to scale and compete with the big boys. That's a fact. I'm not saying they can't be successful (profitable) and make great content, they just aren't major players in the new media landscape.

Lmao..you see this is exactly what I was arguing with the other dude about...you have finally come out and said the same thing he did

Please can you tell me maybe 4 or 5 of these "big boys" that you think Sony can't compete with?

pu7pl3:


Lmao..you see this is exactly what I was arguing with the other dude about...you have finally come out and said the same thing he did

Please can you tell me maybe 4 or 5 of these "big boys" that you think Sony can't compete with?

IAmSabrina:

When I say I don't know where they'll be, I mean they could be back in financial trouble. Of course, it's "possible" that Disney could be also, but, given their well known and well liked (not to mention "large" franchises, it's much less likely. Sony's line up could make (or lose) them a lot of money. In other words, things are more stable at Disney and their medium and long term prospects appear to be much brighter. No one can tell the future for sure, but we can make educated guesses based on what we see today.

If me saying I don't know how Sony will be doing in the next few years seems "ridiculous and myopic" to you, you're certainly entitled to that opinion.

pu7pl3:


dude my issue started when he said Sony has nothing going for them .he also went further to say that they run the risk of getting gobbled up by Disney...I'm just here trying to debunk that..did you see me compare movie slates between the 2 companies?

1000WaysToLive:
Disney is more than fine,


the company has never been worth more and it's in store for major growth ahead.


They just purchased Fox for 73 billion and are investing billions in a platform that won't be profitable (so they say) until 2024.



Obsessing on misses for a quarterly earnings report is completely missing the big picture.


One being the stock price is at an all time high despite the fact there will obviously be some growth pains through such investment.

Investments intended to grow the business long term, thus the valuation. Wall St. believes in the story.

pu7pl3:
Did y'all see that video where Feige said that Scarlett witch would now be the most powerful person in the whole MCU?I thought he said captain Marvel before,now looks like he is changing it cos Scarlett witch would be in Doctor strange 2

I have noticed that this type of content/discussions doesn't interest y'all on this thread..if its not some arguement about something(trivial or non trivial) y'all just crawl back onto hiding

Xavier5:


Bro this guys (1000WaysToLive and IAmSabrina) are just misunderstanding us and misinterpreting everything thus causing confusion.

The issue isn't about who is big between Disney and Sony which of course we know it's Disney, rather the argument is about if Sony has franchises to work on or not which of course they have both successful and unsuccessful including a Comic book shared universe (Sony Marvel Universe) and a potential one in Valient Cinematic Universe, that's if Bloodshot is a success.

As for the issue of Sony standing on their own, of course they can and will,

1.) they are financially stable besides they have back ups from their father (Sony Entertainment) and grandfather (Sony Corporation)
2.) Sony has and is turning in profit both from their franchises and original standalone movies.
3.) They have Franchises (both successful and unsuccessful) to work on, not also forgetting original standalone movies.
4.) They've got Spiderman (film rights), which is part of multiple franchises e.g MCU, into the spiderverse, Sony Marvel Universe, animated series etc
5.) Sony pictures won't be sold at least not now because
* They making profits
** They're a ground for Sony Corporation to have their share of Hollywood's cake.
*** They've got Spiderman (Film rights). Sony Corporation won't wanna lose that Money Making Machine, so they won't sell Sony pictures because selling it means goodbye to Spiderman rather what they will do is to acquire more rights (just as we've seen in Valient Comics [Film Rights]) and back up Sony pictures financially.

I drop my pen at this juncture to be taken up by anyone out there.

#Xavier.
#Proudly_A_DCian.

HbJ2:

You obviously know more about this kind of thing than most people here do. Who would you say might be interested in purchasing Sony? I can't imagine that Disney would be after just completing such an expensive deal for Fox. Comcast was in the hunt for Fox as I recall.

pu7pl3:


I have noticed that this type of content/discussions doesn't interest y'all on this thread..if its not some arguement about something(trivial or non trivial) y'all just crawl back onto hiding

Cottonmouth:

How ironic. Since it was you who started this whole argument

HbJ2:

You obviously know more about this kind of thing than most people here do. Who would you say might be interested in purchasing Sony? I can't imagine that Disney would be after just completing such an expensive deal for Fox. Comcast was in the hunt for Fox as I recall.

Cottonmouth:

How ironic. Since it was you who started this whole argument

dragonflyy:

lol. they never stop whining, these folks. notice how very few MCU fans constantly bicker on the DC threads (with the exception of that m0r0n hulk). but they always come in here to ride dick and start unnecessary arguments

Xavier5:


Bro this guys are just misunderstanding us and misinterpreting everything thus causing confusion.

The issue isn't about who is big between Disney and Sony which of course we know it's Disney, rather the argument is about if Sony has franchises to work on or not which of course they have both successful and unsuccessful including a Comic book shared universe (Sony Marvel Universe) and a potential one in Valient Cinematic Universe, that's if Bloodshot is a success.

As for the issue of Sony standing on their own, of course they can and will,

1.) they are financially stable besides they have back ups from their father (Sony Entertainment) and grandfather (Sony Corporation)
2.) Sony has and is turning in profit both from their franchises and original standalone movies.
3.) They have Franchises (both successful and unsuccessful) to work on, not also forgetting original standalone movies.
4.) They've got Spiderman (film rights), which is part of multiple franchises e.g MCU, into the spiderverse, Sony Marvel Universe, animated series etc
5.) Sony pictures won't be sold at least not now because
* They making profits
** They're a ground for Sony Corporation to have their share of Hollywood's cake.
*** They've got Spiderman (Film rights). Sony Corporation won't wanna lose that Money Making Machine, so they won't sell Sony pictures because selling it means goodbye to Spiderman rather what they will do is to acquire more rights (just as we've seen in Valient Comics [Film Rights]) and back up Sony pictures financially.

I drop my pen at this juncture to be taken up by anyone out there.

#Xavier.
#Proudly_A_DCian.

hulk616:
this cry baby is back for another beating.

Even making another trashy post

dragonflyy:

why don't you go back to riding DC dick, stupid fagg0t?

dragonflyy:

lol. they never stop whining, these folks. notice how very few MCU fans constantly bicker on the DC threads (with the exception of that m0r0n hulk). but they always come in here to ride dick and start unnecessary arguments

1000WaysToLive:
If Apple is truly interested in making their streaming aspirations a success, it's something that would make sense to me, same for Amazon.


Neither really view streaming as their core business though, in Amazon's case it's another service among many, with it being a givaway for some customers.



My guess is if Sony Pictures were purchased, It would be by one of the tech giants in media (FAANG minus Netflix).


I've seen some speculate about a Sony-Lionsgate meger, but I still don't think it would have the scale to compete in the new media landscape of walled gardens. When I say 'compete', I don't mean running the business successfully, I mean being a buyer vs. being a seller in the industry.



Streaming isn't Disney's core business either at the moment, but it will increasingly become a fundamental part of their overall success moving forward.

pu7pl3:


This is just you talking to yourself,guessing and re assuring yourself about somethings... I hope you know?...this has nothing at all to do with what I'm trying to point out

20 Something years ago some wise guy also probably said "I don't know where Disney will be in the next 2 or 3 years"

hulk616:
only God understand the trash, you are posting. Your type needs help

dragonflyy:

yeah. and only God knows how good DC dick must feel for you that you ride it all day everyday

hulk616:
wooow ok you are showing your abnormal behavior. Please I m not abnormal like you.

dragonflyy:

guy you are B O R I N G

shut the f.uck up

IAmSabrina:

Everyone guesses. Even people who know more than you and me. Disney's stock price wasn't driven up by dummies looking to invest in an unstable company.

For myself, I don't need reassurance. It will unfold as it unfolds and it's not going to have a huge effect on my life. You can guess at my state of mind, but THAT's truly guessing.