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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Faithful007: 2:30pm On Sep 14, 2020
Odunayaw:
In the marketing of the Gripen, they added talks of stealth because of small RCS.. Abi you think say na only shaping they reduce RCS?

And what do you mean "Radar used alone"?
Another big factor that makes jets detectable is their radar. When the radar is on, it is giving away its position. But for AESA radars, it is still difficult to track the jet's radar emission when the radar is emitting. but the JF17 block 2 does not have AESA radar.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 3:31pm On Sep 14, 2020
joshingjosh:

I mean something with all round protection of like 7.62mm
Yea bro
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 3:34pm On Sep 14, 2020
youghs:


Yea bro

Pics please
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 3:58pm On Sep 14, 2020
joshingjosh:

Pics please
NAC -V?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 3:59pm On Sep 14, 2020
joshingjosh:

Pics please
NAC -V ba?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Toju200(m): 5:29pm On Sep 14, 2020
DHQUpdate

OPERATION WUTAN DAJI 2: AIR COMPONENT OF OPERATION HADARIN DAJI HITS ARMED BANDITS’ CAMP, ELIMINATES SEVERAL FIGHTERS AT DOUMBOUROU FOREST IN ZAMFARA STATE

1. The Air Component of Operation HADARIN DAJI has decimated another armed bandits’ camp in the Doumborou Forest area of Zamfara State. The air strike, which was executed yesterday, 13 September 2020, as part of a new subsidiary Operation, tagged WUTAN DAJI 2, also resulted in the killing of several armed bandits belonging to the gang led by the so-called ‘Dangote’. The target was designated for attack after Human Intelligence (HUMINT) reports as well as series of confirmatory aerial surveillance missions indicated that ‘Dangote’ and some of his members, along with their logistics items and rustled livestock, had established a new camp at the southern edge of the Forest.

2. The Air Component therefore dispatched an enhanced force package of Nigerian Air Force (NAF) fighter jets and helicopter gunships to attack the location. The attack aircraft engaged the target area scoring accurate hits and taking out several of the bandits, while some of their structures were seen engulfed in flames. HUMINT sources later revealed that several of ‘Dangote’s followers were neutralized in the air strike.

JOHN ENENCHE
Major General
Coordinator
Defence Media Operations
Defence Headquarters
14 September 2020
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 5:41pm On Sep 14, 2020
youghs:


NAC -V ba?

Yes
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Tobiloba2407: 5:51pm On Sep 14, 2020
The fact that I know so much, and I don't rush to comment, or post amazes me, how people with full confidence rush to post what doesn't make sense, as if they are sure of what they are posting, just keeps making me to laugh, what's more funny is that they are averse to advise and truth

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Odunayaw(m): 6:18pm On Sep 14, 2020
Faithful007:
Another big factor that makes jets detectable is their radar. When the radar is on, it is giving away its position. But for AESA radars, it is still difficult to track the jet's radar emission when the radar is emitting. but the JF17 block 2 does not have AESA radar.
AESA is not as widespread as the mechanically steered array. IMO a lot of factors come into play to achieve "Stealth" (e.g Size, Materials) and the JF17 possesses some to a moderate degree.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by youghs: 6:29pm On Sep 14, 2020

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:47pm On Sep 14, 2020
[quote author=youghs post=93923060][/quote]


Exactly, I remember this one...used in that NA movie they are producing
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:49pm On Sep 14, 2020
youghs:

Exactly, I remember this one...used in that NA movie they are producing
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:49pm On Sep 14, 2020
youghs:

Exactly, I remember this one...used in that NA movie they are producing
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by joshingjosh(m): 8:51pm On Sep 14, 2020
youghs:
I remember this one used in that NA movie
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ecomog1990: 9:03pm On Sep 14, 2020
nemesis8u:


This is my last post

U claimed this in ur post

" Its about science & tech, once you increase armour weight the speed reduces proportionately"

It was my main point of contention , the very science & tech u invoked has advanced so much that use of speciality steels and composites allows one to increase protection without a corresponding increase in weight thereby preserving desired mobility.

"If they double Casspir IED spec, they have compromised another spec to gain that one."

This claim of urs I disputed because you r ignorant about the use of speciality steel and composites which allows one to increase protection without compromising weight and mobility specs

" Ah !!! grin It's me that first mentioned composite armour not you o nemesis !!! "

That's an out right lie u explicitly mentioned ceramic armour not composite armour ( which I mentioned first ) . Here is proof below which u wrote in reply to youghs

" Option of ceramics armour to save weight, means you increase cost price 3 times so 400k MRAP becomes $1.2 million, then too expensive to repair that vehicle is written off and lost out of inventory after only one IED blast. "

Now you posted this in reply to me

" I said only alternatives like ceramics (used in composite mix) "

Composite armour is a mix of various materials which may or may not use ceramics . Therefore Composite armour ( even if it uses ceramics ) is different and ceramic armour is different . 2 entirely different armouring material.

A person who is in the technical know , will never indulge in play of words and obscuration . He will be a man of few words sticking to technicalities only.

I have no reasons to be angry lol , I am only taken aback at the level of straw man arguments and selective bias which is down right tragic .


The only thing that was in bad taste for me was how u kept bringing up pride and references to such . Pride is is best left to individuals who actually achieve things which r a matter of pride for them . appreciating is another matter. I am here for my own pleasure not to exibit any pride.

This is my last post too I hope my brother.

It's unfortunate that you think I mentioned ceramics but I dont know the meaning of composites which is just a general term used to define all types of - non metal only - armour alternatives like the ceramics I mentioned.

So disappointing that you are not smart enough to know that since I know ceramics, the market price, the met & mat use, the technical disadvantages, the armouring benefits, then at such level I know that ceramics is just one of many types of various composite material options..

Word ceramics as I used it, is how we abbreviate longer full term - ceramic composite armour - please correct your ignorance dear nemesis.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359836815005119

I plan current factory introduction of composite armour mix with Nigerian MRAP manufacturers, it's not pride, it's being happy to improve Nigerian Def Sec industry. We are Africans but don't assume we are ignorant and only Indians know composite usage ; DICON makes ballistic vests using Aramid Composite - we are coming up with ceramic composites and carbon fibre composites for vehicles kinetic threat armouring.

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by SerikinGamo: 9:23pm On Sep 14, 2020
ecomog1990:


This is my last post too I hope my brother.

It's unfortunate that you think I mentioned ceramics but I dont know the meaning of composites which is just a general term used to define all types of - non metal only - armour alternatives like the ceramics I mentioned.

So disappointing that you are not smart enough to know that since I know ceramics, the market price, the met & mat use, the technical disadvantages, the armouring benefits, then at such level I know that ceramics is just one of many types of various composite material options..

Word ceramics as I used it, is how we abbreviate longer full term - ceramic composite armour - please correct your ignorance dear nemesis.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359836815005119

I plan current factory introduction of composite armour mix with Nigerian MRAP manufacturers, it's not pride, it's being happy to improve Nigerian Def Sec industry. We are Africans but don't assume we are ignorant and only Indians know composite usage ; DICON makes ballistic vests using Aramid Composite - we are coming up with ceramic composites and carbon fibre composites for vehicles kinetic threat armouring.

You, an individual made a statement and you're trying to lump AFRICANS, 54+ countries, over a billion people into your individual opinion..it makes no sense

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 11:51pm On Sep 14, 2020
How many actually opened the link and read it grin

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359836815005119

Ceramic cylinder layer armour on top ( strike face / front section )

1.

1st layer - Ti6Al4V ( titanium alloy )

Middle layer - UHMWPE ( ultra high molecular weight polyethylene )

3rd layer - Ti6Al4V carbon fiber plate and aluminum alloy

1st, middle and 3rd layer forms the composite armour backplate ( non strike section / backend )

Quote " we chose three materials (Ti6Al4V, carbon fiber plate, and aluminum alloy) as the third layer respectively and combined with the Ti6Al4V (first layer) and UHMWPE (middle layer) to form the composite backplates " end quote.

2.

Ceramic cylindrical layer armour

Quote " to explore the rational design of the composite backplates, and combine with the ceramic cylinder layer " end quote

Thus
Ceramic composite armour =/= ceramic armour

Composite armour =/= ceramic armour

Ceramic composite armour = ceramic armour + composite armour

Hence proved

Entire credit goes to ecomog and I wish him success for his armour ventures and his life .

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by ugo4u: 12:11am On Sep 15, 2020
ecomog1990 what's your take on padding titanium plate with Kevlar. Example making a normal bullet proof vest(Kevlar material) with chambers/pockets where titanium plate can be snucked in. (Kind of Redundancy).
Don't you think this combination is almost impregnable to firearms including high calibre assault rifles etc. and provide double protection.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:41am On Sep 15, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 5:43am On Sep 15, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 7:47am On Sep 15, 2020
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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Lurker4Long: 10:13am On Sep 15, 2020
SerikinGamo:


You, an individual made a statement and you're trying to lump AFRICANS, 54+ countries, over a billion people into your individual opinion..it makes no sense

Hear! Hear!

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by kenpaul0: 2:11pm On Sep 15, 2020
Sabi Man.....Please continue Brother!!!

ecomog1990:


This is my last post too I hope my brother.

It's unfortunate that you think I mentioned ceramics but I dont know the meaning of composites which is just a general term used to define all types of - non metal only - armour alternatives like the ceramics I mentioned.

So disappointing that you are not smart enough to know that since I know ceramics, the market price, the met & mat use, the technical disadvantages, the armouring benefits, then at such level I know that ceramics is just one of many types of various composite material options..

Word ceramics as I used it, is how we abbreviate longer full term - ceramic composite armour - please correct your ignorance dear nemesis.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1359836815005119

I plan current factory introduction of composite armour mix with Nigerian MRAP manufacturers, it's not pride, it's being happy to improve Nigerian Def Sec industry. We are Africans but don't assume we are ignorant and only Indians know composite usage ; DICON makes ballistic vests using Aramid Composite - we are coming up with ceramic composites and carbon fibre composites for vehicles kinetic threat armouring.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 3:12pm On Sep 15, 2020
The kin insecurity wey dey happen for some part of that Kaduna eh

The train that operate between Abuja to Kaduna was attacked yesterday by armed bandits. They even shot at the train.

The train was attacked for close to 30 minutes, security agents where nowhere to be found. If nah IPOB they do meeting now, then you go see them flexing muscle grin

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Whyem15: 3:42pm On Sep 15, 2020
BabaOwen:
The kin insecurity wey dey happen for some part of that Kaduna eh

The train that operate between Abuja to Kaduna was attacked yesterday by armed bandits. They even shot at the train.

The train was attacked for close to 30 minutes, security agents where nowhere to be found. If nah IPOB they do meeting now, then you go see them flexing muscle grin
I doubt it is gunshot, was it just a bullet that was fired? No exit point for the bullet or it fell in the train without anyone thinking of snapping it?
The official story is that some kids threw stones at the train and were chased off by the police, one was arrested. If it was bandits, why didn't they obstruct the railine and wreak as much havoc as they want instead of firing just one shot?
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by slimthugchimee2(m): 4:15pm On Sep 15, 2020
Whyem15:

I doubt it is gunshot, was it just a bullet that was fired? No exit point for the bullet or it fell in the train without anyone thinking of snapping it?
The official story is that some kids threw stones at the train and were chased off by the police, one was arrested. If it was bandits, why didn't they obstruct the railine and wreak as much havoc as they want instead of firing just one shot?

Bandits attacked a train for 30 mins and only one window of the train spoilt with no bullet on the floor of the train.

Make you dey see the sort of news people dey see

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Xbee007(m): 5:09pm On Sep 15, 2020
BabaOwen:
The kin insecurity wey dey happen for some part of that Kaduna eh

The train that operate between Abuja to Kaduna was attacked yesterday by armed bandits. They even shot at the train.

The train was attacked for close to 30 minutes, security agents where nowhere to be found. If nah IPOB they do meeting now, then you go see them flexing muscle grin
I seriously doubt it was an attack as well.
Let me narrate one of my experience while traveling on that train cos I use it quite often. One time, I got to the train station late so I had to go for standing ticket. Myself, an Air force officer with his friend and another guy got a place immediately between the engine and the first coach. Hours into the journey, I heard a loud bang that sounded like a gunshot which scared the sh*t out of me. Seriously, I was certain the train was under attack until the officer explained that the train actually rolled over a stone at high speed.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by Nobody: 5:36pm On Sep 15, 2020
Xbee007:

I seriously doubt it was an attack as well.
Let me narrate one of my experience while traveling on that train cos I use it quite often. One time, I got to the train station late so I had to go for standing ticket. Myself, an Air force officer with his friend and another guy got a place immediately between the engine and the first coach. Hours into the journey, I heard a loud bang that sounded like a gunshot which scared the sh*t out of me. Seriously, I was certain the train was under attack until the officer explained that the train actually rolled over a stone at high speed.
Well, the FG don tell us say nah some boys dey stone am say no b gunshots grin

I saw a tweet few minutes ago about someone saying he witnessed it.

Cc:Whyem15
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by LTGEN: 6:39pm On Sep 15, 2020
Saw the pictures definitely does not look like a bullet hole more like a projectile.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by seankafor(m): 7:55pm On Sep 15, 2020
That's why I love this thread.. intellect folks full here ahswear..
The ignorance and comments on fp today was an eyesore.. people talking and bullshitting their own on what they dont know just because of their political and selfish differences..

Just imagine when an outsider gets to read that thread in fp and the comments..tell me why some useless dundehead wont rate us 3rd globally terrorised country in the world..

Most Nigerians are fools and ignorant bastards that maybe poverty and hardship has cause them a post stress traumatic disorder in such a sense that they only see and talk bad about the country irrespective of whatever the case might be..

Such a shame if you ask me..

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Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by rka1: 9:00pm On Sep 15, 2020
seankafor:
That's why I love this thread.. intellect folks full here ahswear..
The ignorance and comments on fp today was an eyesore.. people talking and bullshitting their own on what they dont know just because of their political and selfish differences..

Just imagine when an outsider gets to read that thread in fp and the comments..tell me why some useless dundehead wont rate us 3rd globally terrorised country in the world..

Most Nigerians are fools and ignorant bastards that maybe poverty and hardship has cause them a post stress traumatic disorder in such a sense that they only see and talk bad about the country irrespective of whatever the case might be..

Such a shame if you ask me..

The problem is, they are so unpatriotic and toxic in what they say and then turn around and wonder why Nigeria is cussed by other Africans. They think if they gain what they are clamouring for, everything will be forgotten. They don't know they are "doing themselves" and future generations. The internet doesn't forget.
Re: Battle Field Discussion (picture/video) Of African Military . by bidexiii: 1:03am On Sep 16, 2020

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