TV01:

Au contrairé Coco - thanks to Christianity. And I want fundamental human rights for all.


TV

cococandy:

And A true feminist is who? According to who?
(Don't bother answering)

that's where we disagree.
You give feminism your own definition because you want us to believe it has nothing to do with female empowerment/equality for reasons best known to you. And such reasons lack facts and reeks of sensationalism. No need restating them.

(It smacks of an underhanded attempt to sabotage the progress women have made over the years against oppressive cultures.
#my opinion.)

I could be wrong. Maybe your agenda is not to sabotage female social progress. maybe you're truly afraid some people out there are out to rob men of their manhood. (the sensationalism and conspiracy theorist things I'm talking about)

As always we get to the point where we don't agree and have to part ways so that you can concentrate on work and I on whatever it is I am doing right now.

Ciao

cococandy:


so Christianity is not sexist?
Good.
We agree.

TV01:

Women remain safest in marriage - I love saying that

I stand corrected in a sense - but it still develops with an instinctive - if broad - sense of right and wrong

How do we agree on any laws if we can't ascertain an oblective morality (right vs. wrong)?

Vickybee:

Why did Apollo and Priscilla head the church?

Luke1:48 For he has looked on the humble state of his servant. For behold, all generation shall call me blessed.

Why should all generation including men call her blessed. Isn't that an adulation?

Pdizzle:


The bible is sexist, 1st Cor 14:34-35 according to your NLT says:

Women should be silent during the church meetings. It is not proper for them to speak. They should be submissive, just as the law says.
If they have any questions, they should ask their husbands at home, for it is improper for women to speak in church meetings.

TV01:

KJV can give people headache and it's not as amenable to sophistry as some of the more recent translations .

We all all equally heirs of grace, equal in a creational sense, but men are charged with leadership in the home and church - this should by some readings extend to civil leadership, but I'll leave that - feminism cannot abide any sense of being led by men.

Indeed they consider marriage oppressive to women and many would like it dismantled. It's clearly stated within the first few paragraphs of the wiki definition.


TV

pickabeau1:


why do u think its a conspiracy theory

Im sure you know the family is the bedrock of any community and a dysfunctional family has effects that are perverse

crackhaus:


******
Oh my, I'm beginning to sound like them TBN televangelists.... *shudders*

I don't think this would have happened, but if it did, I certainly can't presume to know the outcome.

Vickybee:


Job 31:11-12 New Living Translation (NLT)

11 For lust is a shameful sin,
a crime that should be punished.

12 It is a fire that burns all the way to hell. [ a ]
It would wipe out everything I own.


I hope you are asexual and keeping to this law!

Vickybee:

Who then told you two men or women can't keep a family?.

BTW, Family isn't bedrock of any society but procreation.

Vickybee:

Then, why are you judging feminists?

Which woman in the bible was submissive with the way 21st century men wants us to be.

I need an example of submissive biblical wife.

crackhaus:

Esther was a submissive wife, Sarah was also... even Mary the mother of Jesus was a submissive wife.

Submissive here doesn't mean docile, mute, and given to taking orders.
Submissive means knowing their roles and deferring to the headship of the man. They did not try to usurp his authority at every slight opportunity.

Other examples of biblical submissive women include:
Rebecca
Rachael
Zipporah etc. etc.

Should I go on?

Shollypopzz:


Bwahahahahaha *DIES!

Nah, you're not that bad. You would have to get to TV01's level of self righteousness first.

Vickybee:

Don't go on. I'm ready to learn how Mary was submissive.

How?

crackhaus:
Should I go on?

crackhaus:

LOL...
TV01, are you reading this?

lezz:
It is very deep and worrisome. This is actually satan's first attempt at usurping authority and giving power to women. His short term goal is to distrupt the family unit. When wives become insurbodinate to their husbands, children lose all sense of discipline and the family unit breaks down.

The long term goal is to distrupt human society and promote no sense of hierrarchy, loyalty, authority and order. So he seeks the financial and economic empowerment of women to make them independent of thier husbands amd the children follow eventually.

It is why feminist loby for control and not equality. they wamt to occupy the top and at the same time deny the representation of the lower spectrum of society where men alsp dominate.

It has been observed that most teen pregnancy occurs in single mother -daughter relationship.

also when a wife disrespects the husband, the children also disrespect her leading into the chaos and breakdown of the family unit which eventually spills into the larger society.

crackhaus:

Lol, really now?

What evidence do you have to the contrary?

Shollypopzz:



ROFLMAO!! I swear this person is too far gone!

What a lunatic, and 5 other lunatics liked his posts?? Bwahahahahahahahha!!

This kind of stup1dity deserves to be bookmarked. Hollup, you mean some feminists replied this poster?? Bwhahaha

Vickybee:

Biblical quote.

Vickybee:

No offence

http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Feminism

Vickybee:

Biblical quote.

Shollypopzz:



ROFLMAO!! I swear this person is too far gone!

What a lunatic, and 5 other lunatics liked his posts?? Bwahahahahahahahha!!

This kind of stup1dity deserves to be bookmarked. Hollup, you mean some feminists replied this poster?? Bwhahaha

BABE3:


I dey ready for this bit.

Why did he make man the head in marraige? If God or jesus isn't sexist, why is there a head in marraige and why is he a man?

JoeCutie:
It has failed to open. I don't know why

crackhaus:

Quote it please, I'm eager to see this and understand your interpretation of it.

bukatyne:


It boils down to your definition of 'head'

A man is the source of his family; Ideally, he decides to build a family and finds a wife himself/asks God or Satan (depending on his preference)

BABE3:


So you're saying, his headship ends after he has found his wife ?

Vickybee:

I said you should quote where Mary was submissive.

bukatyne:


Did you get that from my post?

Does finding a wife end a family?

cococandy:

they are conspiracy theorists.
Even though some of them don't know they are.
I must have missed out on the meeting where some women and men gathered to discuss with the devil on how to ruin the world by seeking equality for women.
By that logic what keeps the world going is for women to remain under. Err. Tsk tsk.
Ok since we Christians believe the world will come to an end one day maybe feminists are actually doing God's work by helping speed up the destruction of the world. That sounds like a good inference based on good premise. No?
#stretches
Nothing makes sense.

bukatyne:
@babygirlfl,

The Bible is not sexist. It took me years to get to This point too.

I could cope more with sexist men than a sexist God. I mean the men met it (can't fault them), But the person that actually put me There and then claims to love me?

Tuah!

Read and studied and put everything in context.

P.S.: I do not use KJV though. I use NLT.