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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by uniklinkum(m): 7:45pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
This thread need to be archived and shown to basstards like agbaje why we treasure our culture and history with all our heart. 5 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 7:46pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
SirShymexx:Ijebu did not have an army .They used mainly mercenaries . These were Hausa,Nupe Kemberi and slaves 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omoabike: 7:49pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
KIRIJI: Chief did you mean to write 1892. Sir Gilbert Carter was only 4 years old in 1852. This was probably 1892 during the Ijebu expedition of 1892. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gilbert_Thomas_Carter 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by OKNkanu(m): 7:52pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Yes..... so??... yeye topic |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by lastpage: 7:52pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunfly: [size=18pt]Èsúgbàyí[/size] as in "The Devil Accepted this"! Your Yoruba is "suspect"! Abi you be Yiibo? See Swagger for Yoruba land .....since time of Jesus! Lastpage! 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by seunfly: 7:54pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
lastpage: Ni igbati KO si amin ni ori re, bawo ni o sent fe tumon si ibeyen. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by lastpage: 7:58pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
KIRIJI: Please, always pronounce the name of our Monarchs IN FULL! Awujale Ademuyewo [size=18pt]Afìdípòtèmólè.[/size]... (The one who uses his "backside" to dismantle enmity!) #Sai Ijebu! Even "Onyebeke" sef dey bow! But hey, dont we have pictures of Igbos who were "shon-of-d-shoil" living in Lagos or Ijebu, .... in those days! Sorry, l think l am getting nostalgic for nothing. Lastpage! 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by lastpage: 8:01pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
seunfly: Cheesux Christ! Eleyi le'gan o! Lastpage! |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by seunfly: 8:06pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
lastpage: The thing no want make I type in Yoruba now, watin I go do. Autocorrect things. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by KMB: 8:09pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Interesting history lesson |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nusirat(m): 8:09pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd44: Please don't distort Yoruba history we have many first Class Oba in yoruba land also, we have ancient Oba ruling the ancient cities. Namely Alaafin of Oyo Okere of Shaki Oni of Ife Owa of Idanreland Owa Obokun of Ijesha Ataoja of Osho Osemawe Olowo of owo Deji of Akure Olugbon of Igbon Ile Aresa of Iresa Apa Soun of Ogbomosho And many more. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Hanibal(m): 8:21pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda:Lmao... Well said grand pa... If you say I should go away I have gone away. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Hanibal(m): 8:26pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
hercules07:Yea... the Ijebus have always been rebels, never submitted to the Alaafin |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 8:30pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Apt. Like you, I also want more discoveries to be made in that town. There is much more than what is recorded in the books. Univeristies keep churning our historians amd none is grabbing the opportunity to break grounds in Ife history - myself inclusive |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by olalat(m): 8:30pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
We HV got history. Tell d dim wits that Lagos belong to some people 2 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 8:31pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
manck2: You're letting your emotions get the best of you. Alafin was not the paramound ruler of the entire Yoruba land, there were lands he did not exert his military influence upon. Do you not have elders in your home, if yes, query them on this fact. 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Nobody: 8:34pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Lie! Ijebu had its army. I suppose the Ijebu mercenaries came to aid the Ife during the Owu war that broke out at Apomu? The Ijebu mounted mercenaries around its walls to defend it from outsiders? The Ijebu used mercenaries to sustain their monopoly over the coastal - hinterland trade route? Funny contributions all over the place. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by hercules07: 8:41pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
zimoni: Okay sorry, the current occupant just gets my goat everytime. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by MrPresident1: 8:45pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Hoisting a flag over a territory is declaration of sovereignty over that territory. Boko haram is no different, and they even gave their territory a new name did they not? Darul-something. Unlike what Fulani sovereignty would have meant over 'Yorubaland' had 'Yorubaland' been captured through warfare, Lagos people have actually become muslims willingly without having to lose their dignity or being subjected to the indignities of being ruled over by later day conquerors. Oduduwa is not indigenous to the land space called South western Nigeria or 'Yorubaland', Oduduwa came from the East, and the fact of his/appearance is well documented, Oduduwa spread civilisation to 'Yorubaland' through conquest and assimilation of the aboriginal indigenous people, and his sons/progenies are their ruling kings till today, this is why their subjects claim to be children of Oduduwa. Children by association. We are all Omo Odua. Do you know the ramification of this 'becoming children by association'? Do conquered Hausas claim to be Fulani? are they allowed such priviledges? |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by LAGrejectIBO: 8:51pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
AreaFada2: Oba had been in use since Ologunkutere. The blade, the staff and the crown was used first by Gabaro. They were brought from Bini as instrument of office for the new throne. In 1854 when Beecroft demanded Kosoko sign a treaty of friendship and trade partnership, which would see the end of slave trade and the beginning of new commerce, Kosoko declared I have no authority to do so, Im still waiting for my staff of office to arrive from Bini. Meaning: King's staff is passed on only through death. Since Akintoye was overthrown and had not died his staff and crown were still in his posession in exile. No staff or crown for Kosoko to go through the coronation rituals and his request for replacement had not arrived at the time Beecroft requested partnership. Needless to say, and as you correctly pointed out, it wont have mattered.....Kosoko in Lagos and Oba Adolo in Bini had no sympathy for the British in fact looked down on them, preferring instead to trade with Portuguese who to them was a higher race than British and peers with the Coastal Kingdoms. Oba of Bini, Oba of Lagos both had diplomatic relations with Portugal. Beecroft indeed returned after the staff had arrived and he had been coronated to offer the ealier proposal for partnership, and at which point Kosoko told him he desired no friendship with Britain. So the title of Oba had been in use long before Britain had annexed the land. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by kolaaderin: 8:52pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
SirShymexx: Been a first class king is not by the size and civilisation of ur territory but by the historical and ancestorial relivant of ur domain. The alafin of Oyo, oni of ife,oba of benin and the rest classified as first class king govern over territory believed to be the actual origin of Yoruba race and they have been having crowned kings right from the formation of the tribe itself long before the advent of the new cities like Ibadan and Lagos as we know it. I hope I have put a bit light to ur query. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by inaiduna(m): 9:05pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by omonnakoda: 9:13pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
MrPresident1:What is the point of this last offering what does this add up to. That Emirs are of Fulani descent means Fulani rule? What is the Origin of the queen of England? You produce an emotional motley of facts but what is the point of it all? whether in China (Mongol dynasty) England or in Yorubaland or hausaland and arguably Benin and many other cases where there have been kings kings have tended to come from outside, Yes the ruling families in Hausaland are of Fulani DESCENT but Conquered Hausas?No!! Did Fulani invade Hausas ? NO Hausas were never conquered by anyone so stop that. Emirs are of Fulani origin but they are now HAUSA as much as the descendant of ODUDUWA who are Obas are Yoruba no The Yuan dynasty was established in China by Mongol nomads and there are countless examples of this .Are we to say the Mongols ruled China.No They established a dynasty like the Fulani but they were absirbed into China and enriched China The Manchu Dynasty was also foreign so I suggest you go and study history of dynasties and how they come about I asked you if Nigeria is now part of ISIS and you did not answer |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by mobaking: 9:24pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
guy1234:Go to cms bookshop on broad street,lagos island for a copy of the book 'History of the yorubas' by Revd Samuel Johnson |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by netmillionaires(m): 9:27pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Billyonaire:firstly U said that the Oba is a father to all lagosians and lost his deserved respect because he chose to support one son at the expense of the other. Good! Have you asked the other son what he did? A son who promised to elevate strangers above his father and U expect the father to honour him. That is not possible. 2ndly, U said some people claimed to be lagosians when they can't even afford to buy lands in lagos and hire lagosians. U seems to be saying U are more lagosian because U have a land in lagos and also hire some yorubas. My question is, when did owning lands in a country/state make one a citizen/aborigine of that country/state? It is more like saying because U av lands and hired workers in britain automatically makes u a british. When U bring up the vote issue, it gives credence to the fact that U are merely angry about the election saga which is not the discussion here. Anyone can vote and be voted for anywhere in Nigeria but that doesn't make one a man of the land. For example, an hausa can aspire for governorship in lagos but only after meeting the minimum requirement to be considered a lagosian. The law states what makes one a lagosian. But what we failed to realize is that before the law that stipulates when one can be classified as a lagosians, there have been yorubas who own that land. U talk of constitutions yet some regions continue to play ethnic politics and even want to bring it to lagos and U expect the oba of lagos to be quiet. Let's just stick with what this thread is all about and stop soliloquizing because someone lose an election. 3 Likes |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by toprealman: 9:30pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
RickRichards:This one wont threaten to throw people into the lagoon. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by Michdear(f): 9:41pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
Mynd44:now you are very wrong,olubadan isn't there if you actually meant the real epic first class,and deji of akure can never be there too,alaafin of oyo,ooni of ife,orangun of ila that I know but towards nigeria independent alaafin of oyo ,ooni of ife ,awujale of ijebu,osemawe of ondo,alake of egbaland(abeokuta) and oba of benin were the only one who are presented with a royal seal staff. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by MrPresident1: 9:47pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: The emirs rule! and stop being simplistic. You present a disingenuous babble of disjointed arguments to justify a standpoint that conquerors do not rule over their 'conquerees' and dare to accuse me of presenting an 'emotional motley of facts'? The Fulani do not rule? The Fulani did not invade Hausa land even if clandestinely under the guise of Islam? Hausas were never conquered? Just like the aboriginal 'Yoruba' tribes were not subjugated? This is terrible argument, and funny at the same time. For your information, and get it clear, the Fulani are not Hausa, and vice versa. Fullstop. They may have integrated but the lines are not blurred, they are as clear as daylight. Have the Fulani enriched the Hausa as the Yuan dynasty enriched China? In other words the Fulani met a primitive Hausa people without a flourishing culture? Oduduwa brought civilisation to 'Yorubaland'. The descendants of Oduduwa are actually the YORUBA so you can specify your own stock and stop hiding under this banner. Boko Haram territory were formerly ISIS territory until Nigerian forces captured them back. That is as simple as it is. Territory belongs to the conquerors. Or are those places recaptured not Nigerian territory again? 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by ArodewilliamsT: 9:56pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
lastpage: See the illiterate crayon-loving monkey that claimed to have a son in Johns Hopkins. Lol. You want to spoil the thread for your brothers. Pls be my guest. This is the Headmaster king of Ogbonmoso. lol
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Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by ollyruffy: 9:58pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
KIRIJI: Eyo Esua! !!. 1 Like |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by nduchucks: 10:21pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
netmillionaires: As far as this conversation goes, the Queen of England and how she is finacially supported by the Brits is irrelevant. I do know that governors or the prime minister does not simply take money from state budget and give it to trhe Queen, as the Governors and Presidents of Nigeria do. Besides, the Queen is already a mulltibillionaire who does not need any hand outs. |
Re: Picture Of Eleko Of Eko, In London, England Circa, 1950s. by ArodewilliamsT: 10:26pm On Apr 13, 2015 |
omonnakoda: Oduduwa is from Edo. yorubas were named by the northerners. The word yoruba was a derogatory name used by northerners to refer to yorubas in old kwara/northern yorubaland, a corruption of "bayerabe'. Unlike Igbo which is original given to Igbo by themselves. It explains why you hear Igbo name their kids Igbokwe, Igboanugo, Igbogadi, Igbonacho but names like Oluyoruba, Adeyoruba do not exist. |
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