How Many Jesus Are In The Bible?
Hi let me say up front, that this hub is not written to upset, anger,
or step on anyone's cherished beliefs, who may take these stories
as literally true. I'm just pointing out something that may be
beneficial to their understanding of these stories, if they're open to
it. And if they're not open to it...that's fine too.
I don't take these stories as literally true
Now that, that's out of the way, let's get started.
It may seem like an odd question to ask “is there more than one
Jesus in the bible?” Especially since we’ve been taught that Jesus is
unique and that his name is the only name we can be saved by. So
let’s take a little walk through the biblical woods and see if we can
separate the woods from the trees.
The Origin Of The Name Jesus
First, let’s take a look at the derivation of Jesus’ name. The
English name, Jesus, is a translation or transliteration of the Latin
name Iesus. Iesus is a translation of the Greek name, Iesous
(pronounced I ee sus). Iesous is a transliteration of the Hebrew
name Yeshua or Yehoshua, or in English Joshua
You can find this information on your own; just do an internet
search on the origin of the name Jesus.
With what we’ve just learned, I think it’s easy to see that Jesus’
name in English should be Joshua, I think that even a “blind man”
could see that.
Now here’s the interesting question. Jesus’ real name is Yehoshua,
so how can we only be saved by the name Jesus, since that’s not
Jesus’ real name? Shouldn’t the only name we can be saved by be,
Yehoshua, his real name?
If we wanted to substitute a name for Jesus’ real name, wouldn’t
Joshua be the logical choice and make more sense, since that his
name in English? Joshua would be closer to Jesus’ real name but
that’s still not his real name.
So why did Christian scholars translate Yehoshua’s name as Jesus,
rather than, Joshua as they did the name of Yehoshua the son of
Nun, in the Old Testament, when they translated the Bible into
English in the seventeenth century AD? ( Joshua is the original
Jesus in the bible).
We’ll take a look at that question in a second, but first, let’s take
a look at how many people named Jesus are in the bible, other
than Jesus.
People named Jesus in the Bible
1) Jesus Barabbas was the captive robber whom the Jews begged
Pilate to release instead of Christ.
2) Joshua was the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses'
successor (Ac. 7:45, Hebrew. 4:.
3) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Luke.
3:29).
4) Jesus surnamed, Justus, a Jewish Christian, associated with Paul
in the preaching of the gospel (Colossians. 4:11.) (Strong’s Bible
Lexicon)
5.Jesus "the Son of Sirach" ) the author of the Apocryphal book of
Ecclesiasticus, who lived in the 3rd century BCE.(Dictionary.com)
Have you ever heard of these people? I hadn’t until I did this
research the results of which I’m sharing with you now.

Jesus Barabbas
We’ve all heard the story of how following Jesus’ arrest, the people
were asked choose which one of two prisoners they would like to
set free, Jesus or Barabbas, and that they chose to set Barabbas
free.But what you probably didn’t is that, Barabbas’s first name
was….Jesus! Isn’t that amazing! You have to prisoners with same
name! But it’s even more amazing then that.
This is the meaning Barabbas: “Barabbas i.e., son of a father or
the father, the notorious robber whom Pilate proposed to condemn
to death instead of Jesus, whom he wished to release, in accordance
with the Roman custom (John 18:40; Mark 15:7; Luke 23:19). But
the Jews were so bent on the death of Jesus that they demanded
that Barabbas should be pardoned (Matthew. 27:16-26; Acts 3:14).
This Pilate did” (Easton's Bible Dictionary).
So Bar means son and Abba means father Barabbas son of the
father. Why did the author of Matthew leave out Barabbas' first
name in this story? I think his first name was it left out on
purpose.
Jesus was called the “son of the father” and Jesus Barabbas was
called the “son of the father” So there were two "Jesus' “sons of
the father" on trial that day! So which one was the "real" Jesus?
Obviously the translators of the story, only wanted us to focus on
the Jesus, they wanted us to focus on. They didn’t want us to see
that there were two “Jesus on trial in that day. So how can we sure
which one was the real Jesus? That’s good question to ponder
don’t you agree? For more on this issue (See "The Mystery of
Barabbas" 1993 Dr. M.D. Magee http://www.askwhy.co.uk/
christianity/0480Barabbas.php ).
Joshua the son of Nun
Let move on and take a look at the original Jesus of bible, Joshua
the Son of Nun. Many people may never have been aware of this
because, when the Septuagint, the original Greek Old Testament,
translated from Hebrew Bible around 3 BC, (300 years before
Jesus) Joshua's name is transliterated as Ieous (Jesus).
Here’s what Strong's Bible Lexicon says about Joshua the son of
Nun "Joshua = Jehovah is his help, or Jehovah the Savior or God
in the flesh. The son of Nun, of the tribe of Ephraim, the
successor of Moses as the leader of Israel. He is called Jehoshua
in Numbers. 13:16 (A.V.) and Jesus in Acts 7:45 and Hebrews.
4:8 (R.V. Joshua)". "The meaning of Nun = "fish" or "posterity"
father of Joshua the successor of Moses".
Isn’t it interesting that the fish was also the symbol of Jesus and
the early Christians. So was Joshua the original Hebrew Messiah? I
say yes. For a more thorough look at this subject See (“The Cult
of Joshua, Christianity Revealed" by Dr. M D Magee ( http://
www.askwhy.co.uk/christianity/0190JoshuaCult.php )
The Septuagint
Way before the New Testament was written; the early Jewish
Christians’ bible was “The Septuagint, the Hebrew bible (the Old
testament translated into Greek). In this Greek Bible, as was
pointed out earlier, Yehoshua, Joshua’s Hebrew name, was
transliterated as Iesous. This was the first time, the name that
would eventually became, Jesus, became known to the early Greek
speaking Christians. When they read the name, Iesous (Jesus), they
knew that name was referring to, Joshua the son of Nun not Jesus
of Nazareth.
Ahmed Osman in his book, “Out of Egypt the roots of Christianity
revealed” states “ The name Jesus appeared for the first time in
the Greek translation of the Old Testament made in Alexndria
during the 3rd century BC. ‘Jesus’ then indicated the son of Nun,
who succeeded Moses as the leader of the Israelites. Jesus is also
the name given to Joshua the son of Nun in the works of Philo of
Alexandria and Flavius Josephus, both Jewish authors of the 1st
century AD.
When the Christian Gospels, which were also written in Greek,
spoke of Jesus, it was clear to the reader then that this was the
same person as the Israelite leader who succeeded Moses. The
confusion only appeared from the 16th century onwards, when the
Bible was translated into English. Only then the name ‘Joshua’ was
given to the Old Testament character, while ‘Jesus’ was used for
his New Testament appearance”. (Out of Egypt, the roots of
Christianity revealed, Ahmed Osman, 1998 Random House.)
So I think that pretty much shows us that Joshua the son of nun
was the first Jesus in bible.
Keeping with the theme of who was the first or original biblical
person, who was the first son of god? Most of us probably think
that’s a no brainer. It’s obviously Jesus.
Adam the son of God
But look at what the gospel of Luke, says about who the first Son
of God was, while giving Jesus’ supposed genealogy: Luke 3:38 "…
Which was the son of Enos, which was the son of Seth, which was
the son of Adam, which was the Son of God". So Adam was the
original Son of God, very interesting.
But, in the Old Testament, Adam is depicted as anything but a
Son of God. Adam is depicted as a creation of God. But in Luke,
Adam is depicted as the original Son of God, thousands of years
before Jesus was born! But how can that be, when we read, “And
the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and
breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a
living soul”. Genesis 2:7. So obviously the writer of Luke wanted to
make Jesus divine by making him a descendant of Adam the
original son of god, even though Genesis states, Adam is a creation
of god not a son of god.
There were many sons of god during that time, which is why the
early Roman Christians clergy, made Jesus the only begotten Son of
God, to make him distinct from and more legitimate than other
religions sons of god. But all sons are begotten by their fathers
(Begotten is from Beget. “Beget meaning to procreate as the father:
Sire: To produce as an effect or outgrowth” (Webster’ Ninth New
Collegiate Dictionary
Sons of God and Angels
Although Adam wasn’t God’s son, genesis does mention that god
had sons. "There were giants in the earth in those days; and also
after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of
men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men
which were of old, men of renown" .Genesis 6:4
So I think this is proof positive that, contrary to what we’ve been
taught to believe…that god had other sons besides Jesus. And the
Old Testament doesn’t mention Jesus, as a son of god and he
definitely, not the only son of god.
Some us think that when genesis refers to sons of god that the sons
are really angels. Here’s what angel means. “Angel from the
Greek, Angelos, and literally means messenger (Webster’s Ninth
New Collegiate Dictionary) as in "messenger of God", not "son of
God" as some of us may have been conditioned or brainwashed, I
mean taught to believe.
King David
Jesus is said to be the son of god and the messiah because he’s a
descendant of King David, because the messiah will be a
descendent of King David. John 7:41 “Others said, This is the
Christ. But some said, Shall Christ come out of Galilee? John 7:42
Hath not the scripture said, That Christ cometh of the seed of
David, and out of the town of Bethlehem, where David was?”
So Matthew was written to show that Jesus is a descendant of King
David. Matthew 1:1 “the book of the generation of Jesus Christ,
the son of David, the son of Abraham”
But in Luke, Jesus implies he’s not descendant of King David,
Luke 20:41 “And he said unto them, How say they that Christ is
David’s son? 20:42 And David himself saith in the book of
Psalms, The LORD said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right
hand, 20:43 Till I make thine enemies thy footstool. 20:44 David
therefore calleth him Lord, how is he then his son?”
I think that pretty much puts the nail in the coffin. Jesus is not a
descendant of King David and therefore can’t be the messiah.
John the Baptist
Here’s another contradiction that show that Jesus is not the
messiah. John the Baptist baptizes Jesus and witnesses miraculous
phenomena that show him that Jesus is the son of God. John 1:32
“And John bore record, saying, I saw the Spirit descending from
heaven like a dove, and it stayed on him. 1:33 And I knew him
not: but he that sent me to baptize with water, the same said to
me, On whom you shall see the Spirit descending, and remaining on
him, the same is he which baptizes with the Holy Ghost. 1:34 And
I saw, and bore record that this is the Son of God”.
But, later after he had been imprisoned, and heard about the
miraculous things Jesus was doing. John sends his disciples to ask
Jesus, is he the one to come or do they look for another: Matthew
11:2 “Now when John had heard in the prison the works of Christ,
he sent two of his disciples, 11:3 And said to him, Are you he
that should come, or do we look for another?”
John baptizes Jesus, recognizes him as the Messiah, but now has to
send his disciples, to ask if Jesus is the one to come, or do should
they look for another? Something’s fishy in Boston, and it ain’t the
fish. I’ll leave that one for you to ponder.
Jesus can’t do great works in his hometown
Another point,
Jesus can’t do great works in his hometown
If Jesus is the messiah and God in the flesh, why did people’s
belief, have anything to do with his ability, to heal them or to do
great works?
Mark 6:3 “Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother
of James, and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his
sisters here with us? And they were offended at him. 6:4 But
Jesus, said to them, a prophet is not without honor, but in his own
country, and among his own kin, and in his own house. 6:5 And
he could there do no mighty work, save that he laid his hands on a
few sick folk, and healed them. 6:6 And he marveled because of
their unbelief. And he went round about the villages, teaching.” If
he’s God why couldn’t he do any great works in his supposed
home town?
His name shall be Emmanuel
The writer of Matthew tries to show that Jesus is the son of God
or the Messiah by quoting a prophecy of the prophet Isaiah in the
Old Testament:
Matthew 1:20 “But while he thought on these things, behold, the
angel of the LORD appeared to him in a dream, saying, Joseph,
you son of David, fear not to take to you Mary your wife: for that
which is conceived in her is of the Holy Ghost. 1:21 And she shall
bring forth a son, and you shall call his name JESUS: for he shall
save his people from their sins. 1:22 Now all this was done, that it
might be fulfilled which was spoken of the Lord by the prophet,
saying, 1:23 Behold, a virgin shall be with child, and shall bring
forth a son, and they shall call his name Emmanuel, which being
interpreted is, God with us. 1:24 Then Joseph being raised from
sleep did as the angel of the Lord had bidden him, and took to
him his wife: 1:25 And knew her not till she had brought forth her
firstborn son: and he called his name JESUS”.
Now many of us may have read this story or heard about it, and
think that this proves, that Jesus is the son of God or the Messiah.
Bu, Isaiah’s prophecy says the child’s name shall be “Emmanuel”
“God with us”. But Joseph named his child “Jesus”. If Isaiah’s
prophecy was about Joseph’s child, it didn’t come true because,
Joseph named his child “Jesus” not “Emmanuel”. The angel of the
Lord telling Joseph in a dream to name his son Jesus, contradicts
what was said in Isaiah’s prophecy. So how can Isaiah’s prophecy
be referring to Jesus?
The Original Messiah
The original Messiah was Joshua the son of Nun, the successor of
Moses, who actually led the children of Israel into the Promised
Land of Canaan. This makes Moses the forerunner of the Messiah.
The fathers of early Roman Christian Orthodox Church adopted this
pattern and applied to John the Baptist and Jesus, to legitimize their
new religious cult, associating it with a more established religious
tradition with a long textual history.
After that somewhat circuitous journey through our subject. Let's
end by answer our starting question
Is There One Jesus In The Bible or More Than One?
Yes there is more than one Jesus in the Bible. Here's a reminder
of who some of them are
1) Jesus Barabbas the captive robber whom the Jews begged Pilate
to release instead of Christ.
2) Joshua the famous captain of the Israelites, Moses' successor
(Acts 7:45, Hebrews 4:.
3) Jesus, son of Eliezer, one of the ancestors of Christ (Luke
3:29).
4) Jesus surnamed Justus, a Jewish Christian, an associated with
Paul in the preaching of the gospel (Colossians 4:11). (Strong's
Bible Lexicon)
5.Jesus "the Son of Sirach" ) the author of the Apocryphal book of
Ecclesiasticus, who lived in the 3rd century BCE.(Dictionary.com)
Should we turn a “deaf” ear and a “blind” eye to obvious
contradictions in our religious beliefs, without doing some sustained
research, into the history of what we’ve been taught to believe,
without question, about our religious beliefs?
No we shouldn't.
May the Light never cease to lighten your Minds!

And I'm expected to read all these?

Obinovictor:
And I'm expected to read all these?

if you wanna know the truth, read.. or skim through..

@shahydbinaliyu,

You should breakdown your op into at least 5-6 posts than can be easily read. Although it's not that much but lazy folks dont want to read especially if the thread is not in their best interest.

I posted something like this on other thread some weeks back https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/13

Obviously, the name of Jesus that the christian scream for salvation is NOT what it is. They got the wrong guy. Jesus as we know it does not recognised being called 'Jesus'. Not at all.

I thought you would give something more reasonable and credible - but alas!... thy points are void as thou the poster, with you first post...I find out that you're confused and obsessed with mighty name Jesus Christ... Jesus according to y your post is literal translation of Yehoshua/Jehoshua in Hebrew to the Greek Jee-Sus and the English preferable Jesus cus the Gospel was originally written in Greek unlike the Scroll of Moses and the rest of the old testament that were written in Hebrew or Aramaic...


and for your question -yes!!! Christianity has never for once denied the multitude of the name Jesus in the Bible, so what's the fuse now? that we're to be saved by the name Jesus?.


lemme ask you this... do we quit to worship God Almighty cus pagans worships theirs as well...or do we quit to call the Almighty God cus there are thousand's of gods?please do God's name stops being a name above all cus other deity are called god?


yes, there many Jesus in the Bible but their is only one that can save... that's Jesus the Christ/Messiah...


so when we pray in the name of Jesus as his followers, we ain't talking to any of the other Jesus in the Bible rather to he that is above all name... Jesus Christ of Nazareth... The God incarnate on earth...


and please tell me which of the Jesus in the Bible do you Muslims and Koran claims to believe in-Jesus Barnabas? Jesus Navas?, Jesus son of Sirach? or Jesus the footballer?


I still have a question for you...

RapLawd:
I thought you would give something more reasonable and credible - but alas!... thy points are void as thou the poster, with you first post...I find out that you're confused and obsessed with mighty name Jesus Christ... Jesus according to y your post is literal translation of Yehoshua/Jehoshua in Hebrew to the Greek Jee-Sus and the English preferable Jesus cus the Gospel was originally written in Greek unlike the Scroll of Moses and the rest of the old testament that were written in Hebrew or Aramaic...


and for your question -yes!!! Christianity has never for once denied the multitude of the name Jesus in the Bible, so what's the fuse now? that we're to be saved by the name Jesus?.


lemme ask you this... do we quit to worship God Almighty cus pagans worships theirs as well...or do we quit to call the Almighty God cus there are thousand's of gods?please do God's name stops being a name above all cus other deity are called god?


yes, there many Jesus in the Bible but their is only one that can save... that's Jesus the Christ/Messiah...


so when we pray in the name of Jesus as his followers, we ain't talking to any of the other Jesus in the Bible rather to he that is above all name... Jesus Christ of Nazareth... The God incarnate on earth...


and please tell me which of the Jesus in the Bible do you Muslims and Koran claims to believe in-Jesus Barnabas? Jesus Navas?, Jesus son of Sirach? or Jesus the footballer?


I still have a question for you...

God bless you more sir

Empiree:
@shahydbinaliyu,

You should breakdown your op into at least 5-6 posts than can be easily read. Although it's not that much but lazy folks dont want to read especially if the thread is not in their best interest.

I posted something like this on other thread some weeks back https://www.nairaland.com/2172133/question-did-jesus-read-bible/13

Obviously, the name of Jesus that the christian scream for salvation is NOT what it is. They got the wrong guy. Jesus as we know it does not recognised being called 'Jesus'. Not at all.

OK brother.. just want it to be comprehensive because i don't want to entertain any stupid questions from them ni jare

RapLawd:
I thought you would give something more reasonable and credible - but alas!... thy points are void as thou the poster, with you first post...I find out that you're confused and obsessed with mighty name Jesus Christ... Jesus according to y your post is literal translation of Yehoshua/Jehoshua in Hebrew to the Greek Jee-Sus and the English preferable Jesus cus the Gospel was originally written in Greek unlike the Scroll of Moses and the rest of the old testament that were written in Hebrew or Aramaic...


and for your question -yes!!! Christianity has never for once denied the multitude of the name Jesus in the Bible, so what's the fuse now? that we're to be saved by the name Jesus?.


lemme ask you this... do we quit to worship God Almighty cus pagans worships theirs as well...or do we quit to call the Almighty God cus there are thousand's of gods?please do God's name stops being a name above all cus other deity are called god?


yes, there many Jesus in the Bible but their is only one that can save... that's Jesus the Christ/Messiah...


so when we pray in the name of Jesus as his followers, we ain't talking to any of the other Jesus in the Bible rather to he that is above all name... Jesus Christ of Nazareth... The God incarnate on earth...


and please tell me which of the Jesus in the Bible do you Muslims and Koran claims to believe in-Jesus Barnabas? Jesus Navas?, Jesus son of Sirach? or Jesus the footballer?


I still have a question for you...

chai.. simple write uo.. you don't understand.. the sum up of that write uo is Joshua is the name translated to jesus by bible translators

shahydbinaliyu:




chai.. simple write uo.. you don't understand.. the sum up of that write uo is Joshua is the name translated to jesus by bible translators

are being silly or being dumb fella?

thought I made it clear that Jesus was driven from the Greek meaning of it -cus the new testament being being the Gospel were originally put down in Greek not like the old testament that was either in Hebrew or Aramaic...


Yehoshua/Jehoshua =Joshua (Hebrew to English )


Then Yehoshua/Jehoshua = Jee-Sus (Hebrew to Greek )


and then

Jee-Sus =Jesus (Greek to English )and know that the Gospel was not written in Hebrew... and to be clear enough... we Igbos have our own version of Jee-Sus /Jesus as Jesu... the Hausa Croatians call him Yesu...


and ehn...please what's the name of Allah or God in h Hausa?

don't tell me is allahu or ubangiji cus I it's more like abracadabra...

RapLawd:


are being silly or being dumb fella?

thought I made it clear that Jesus was driven from the Greek meaning of it -cus the new testament being being the Gospel were originally put down in Greek not like the old testament that was either in Hebrew or Aramaic...


Yehoshua/Jehoshua =Joshua (Hebrew to English )


Then Yehoshua/Jehoshua = Jee-Sus (Hebrew to Greek )


and then

Jee-Sus =Jesus (Greek to English )and know that the Gospel was not written in Hebrew... and to be clear enough... we Igbos have our own version of Jee-Sus /Jesus as Jesu... the Hausa Croatians call him Yesu...


and ehn...please what's the name of Allah or God in h Hausa?

don't tell me is allahu or ubangiji cus I it's more like abracadabra...

if you can't read to understand... you are on your own bro

shahydbinaliyu:




if you can't read to understand... you are on your own bro

answer this question and I'll rethink my stands against Islam and it's only and lone prophet...


you Muslims always say that Muhammad is the comforter that Christ promised right?


did Muhammad abide forever as also stated in the same verse? if yes, how... cus that man is been dead for decades and centuries with no hope of being or close to be alive like Christ and the real comforter -the holy spirit...

if no...then stop making up irrelevant issues to derive pleasure to you blind league and adventure into your unrealistic sentiments!!!.

RapLawd:



answer this question and I'll rethink my stands against Islam and it's only and lone prophet...


you Muslims always say that Muhammad is the comforter that Christ promised right?


did Muhammad abide forever as also stated in the same verse? if yes, how... cus that man is been dead for decades and centuries with no hope of being or close to be alive like Christ and the real comforter -the holy spirit...

if no...then stop making up irrelevant issues to derive pleasure to you blind league and adventure into your unrealistic sentiments!!!.

laughing

shahydbinaliyu:



laughing

sooner or later you will be smiling

I don't care if some men chose to bear the name Jesus but am certain that there is only one saviour

RapLawd:



sooner or later you will be smiling

u too

Read between pages of scripture before arguing. Jesus is just a name of man. That Apostle Paul mentioned another Jesus in his epistles (1 Corinthians 11:4) does not mean another saviour. What he meant is the preaching of another Jesus different from the one preached. Many philosophers have philosophized it. Man is very brilliant in their intelligence, they prefer to hear another Jesus, the Jesus that they have read in the Bible, than the Jesus who gives life, than the Jesus who has given us a measure of his Spirit, than the Jesus who has called us friends and no longer servants. The Jesus you read in the Bible only points to Jesus Christ (John 5:39).