AnyibestDede:
We do need ur type

shahydbinaliyu:


why

AnyibestDede:
you are confusionist

shahydbinaliyu:
If any Christian could show me where In Bible Jesus attended church....


also where In Bible Jesus collect tithes


also where In Bible where Jesus read Bible


and also if you can show me the original scripture of Old Testament and New Testament... so as to check the translation in which cause Bible to be versioned ... i would love to try and translate to original words and submit to pastor for cross checking and make bible just 1.. so as to be like quran..


and also i will like to know how jesus worship God.. .

If any Christian could show me where In Bible Jesus attended church....

also where In Bible Jesus collect tithes

also where In Bible where Jesus read Bible

and also if you can show me the original scripture of Old Testament and New Testament... so as to check the translation in which cause Bible to be versioned ... i would love to try and translate to original words and submit to pastor for cross checking and make bible just 1.. so as to be like quran..

and also i will like to know how jesus worship God.. .

Ifeann:




Jesus attended the Jewish synagogue before it was time for his mission on earth. He then preached the Gospel for 3 years before being crucified by people who claimed he blasphemied for sayiing he was the Son of God(as prophesied in isaiah 53) . However, he established the Christian church as contained in this verse (amongst others).





First and foremost.. the word church doesn't exist In Bible... it was misinterpreted... do you think Jesus is Jesus real name? translators turn his name into Jesus... check Aramaic Bible and Greek Bible to know truth about it.....




Matthew 16:13-20King James Version (KJV)

KJV is one of the most misinterpreted Bible.. check my blog to see the list of translation errors in KJV and other Bible

13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the
Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one
of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I
am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art
the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven.


18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH; and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the
kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt
bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should
tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.





Jesus came to give not collect. He gives salvation. Many churches, particularly the orthodox churches don't collect tithes. They depend on freewill donations. Some others collect tithes, especially the contemporary ones. However giving is expected of us Christians, give to charity and to the church.


where did Jesus collected tithe.. if it's not In Bible, why collection of tithe? are you guys not following Jesus? since there's no proof that Jesus that you are following collect tithes, why collect it?


besides, is the word pastor In Bible? did Jesus said whoever leads a congregation is to be called a pastor?





This is like asking a Jew, show me in the torah where Abraham or Moses read the torah or read the old testament. Infact as a muslim can u show me where Mohammed was reading the quran in the quran.

if you have read Quran, you will find it.. when Angel Gabriel First appeared to him and commanded him to read Quran and he did..




Google it. Tonnes are available online.

that's what i wanna tell you... google it and ask where Mohammed read Quran In Quran..


This is how Christ told us to pray and worship God,

Matthew 6:9-13
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, [ a ]
but deliver us from the evil one.

that's suratul fatiah in islam.. even what led to that prayer is that they want to perform salat.. one person lead and many others stayed behind him... abi you want me to quote the verse?


However Mohammed says allah has ONLY slaves. Here is one of Mohammeds quotes .....

laughing... it's In Bible that we are all slaves of God... abi you want make i show the verse?


Say (O Muhammad SAW): “OMy slaveswho believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), be afraid ofyour Lord(Allah) and keep your duty to Him. Good is (the reward) for those who do good in this world, and Allah's earth is spacious (so if you cannot worship Allah at a place, then go to another)! Only those who are patient shall receive their rewards in full, without reckoning.” S. 39:10 Al-Hilali&Khan

He never refers to people as God's children only Islamic allah's slaves. ..
slaves which is meant doesn't mean someone who doesn't have free will.. i mean like real salve.. the word slave is like an idiom. because it's God that own us and has control over us.

So ponder on these brief answers to ur questions.

richidinho:
Stay there please
Don't bring that Terrorist mentality to my religion please

Ifeann:




Jesus attended the Jewish synagogue before it was time for his mission on earth. He then preached the Gospel for 3 years before being crucified by people who claimed he blasphemied for sayiing he was the Son of God(as prophesied in isaiah 53) . However, he established the Christian church as contained in this verse (amongst others).

Matthew 16:13-20King James Version (KJV)
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the
Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one
of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I
am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art
the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven.


18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH; and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the
kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt
bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should
tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.





Jesus came to give not collect. He gives salvation. Many churches, particularly the orthodox churches don't collect tithes. They depend on freewill donations. Some others collect tithes, especially the contemporary ones. However giving is expected of us Christians, give to charity and to the church.



This is like asking a Jew, show me in the torah where Abraham or Moses read the torah or read the old testament. Infact as a muslim can u show me where Mohammed was reading the quran in the quran.




Google it. Tonnes are available online.


This is how Christ told us to pray and worship God,

Matthew 6:9-13
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, [ a ]
but deliver us from the evil one.

However Mohammed says allah has ONLY slaves. Here is one of Mohammeds quotes

Say (O Muhammad SAW): “OMy slaveswho believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), be afraid ofyour Lord(Allah) and keep your duty to Him. Good is (the reward) for those who do good in this world, and Allah's earth is spacious (so if you cannot worship Allah at a place, then go to another)! Only those who are patient shall receive their rewards in full, without reckoning.” S. 39:10 Al-Hilali&Khan

He never refers to people as God's children only Islamic allah's slaves.

So ponder on these brief answers to ur questions. I don't expect u to become Christian after reading it, pray that God guides you to the truth.

shahydbinaliyu:
how true are these verses ..

RapLawd:




according to your gullible interpretation of those verses, they ain't worshipping God, they are all worshippers of their fellow men... whatta confusionist you're...

KingEbukasBlog:


Lol , u just blessed his soul with the gospel ...kudos

shahydbinaliyu:



laughing in Chinese... check my replies to this conspiracy and you gunna bless my soul and burn his ...laughing.. just kidding.. but av answered his conspiracy theories... check my reply to that post

shahydbinaliyu:



laughing.... despite the fact that you see worshiped God, you said it's their fellow human... chai

Though I know these will NOT make you a Christian, but I replied for others to read.
Also your questions are kinda dissapointing. They are NOT hard enough.

malvisguy212:
Ifeann you just reduce the stress for me, I love your reply.
Op, your question has been answered, soo what next? Will you fear God and keep your word?

Anas09:
I also could become a Muslim if Mohameed did straf a 9yr old child. Stole Zaid's wife Zainab, robbed and killed traders to make himself and his followers rich, if he was not a lying pervert, a terrorist, a thief and slowpoke with a very low IQ. If he were not a false prophet backed by satan to exterblish Islam. I would have been a Muslim. But am a christian. And I wasn't always a christian. I studied other key world religious leaders, and I found Jesus exceptional. Stainless, blameless without any scandal. AND, all religion copy the bible, but the bible doesn't copy any of them. That's wen I knew that christ is the way. Stop ur blind arguement and repent before its too late.

NumberOne2:


It was Jesus' custom to go to Church
"And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read." - Luke:4:16

Jesus (as the Christ) was NOT a priest so he could NOT collect tithes.
However, when HE met Abraham in Genesis, Abraham gave him a tithe of the war bounty.
"For this Melchisedec, king of Salem (Jerusalem), priest of the most high God, who met Abraham returning from the slaughter of the kings, and blessed him; To whom also Abraham gave a tenth part of all; first being by interpretation King of righteousness, and after that also King of Salem, which is, King of peace;" - Hebrew 7:1-2 [see also Gen 14:18 - 20]


Jesus read the Bible
"And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias (Isaiah 61:1-2). And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written, The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
To preach the acceptable year of the Lord. And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him." - Luke 4:16-20

About how Jesus Worshiped God.
The fact that it was his CUSTOM to go to Church regularly kinda answers this. He was a Jew.
The Jews worshipped God. I dont think he went to church (synagogue) regularly to PLAY.

This passage may help:
"But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth." - John 4:23-24

Ifeann:


This is how Christ told us to pray and worship God

Matthew 6:9-13
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, [ a ]
but deliver us from the evil one

shahydbinaliyu:



Luke 4:16 ... from Aramaic Bible (original Bible)
16. And he came to Nazareth, where he was raised,
and he proceeded according to habit to the
synagogue on the Sabbath, and he rose to read...

synagogue does not mean church. it means a place where jews meet for worship or a congregation of jews for the purpose of worship or religious study... THERE IS NO CHURCH IN BIBLE. it's congregation or assembly that Bible translators translate into church...



concerning the tithe... Abraham gave tithe to 10% of war bounty to a king not to church...




Isaiah 61:1-2 from original Bible.. Aramaic Bible

Isaiah 61*
1. The Spirit of Maryah Allaha* is upon me;
the Lord* has anointed me and sent me as a harbinger,
to bring hope for the merciful,
to bind up* the broken-hearted,
and to call for the freedom of the captives,
and the release for prisoners.
2. And to call for a year according to the Will of the Lord,*
and the Day of Salvation of Allahan* to comfort all the mourners.


HE DIDN'T OPEN ANY BOOK... THIS IS JUST A SERMON


Luke 4:16-20 from original Bible. Aramaic Bible

16. And he came to Nazareth, where he was raised,
and he proceeded according to habit to the
synagogue on the Sabbath, and he rose to read.
17. And the scripture of Isaiah the Prophet was
given to him and Eashoa opened the scripture and
found the place where it is written,
18. "The Spirit of Maryah is upon me
...and because of this He anointed me
......to be the hope of the poor
And sent me to heel the broken hearted,
19. "And to preach about the glowing paths,
...and to [give] the blinded, sight,
And to confirm the broken in spirit*.
And to proclaim a year acceptable to Maryah."
20. And he [thus] preached the Scripture and gave it
to the deacon and he went and sat down. But all
eyes* in the synagogue were gazing upon him.


so SCRIPTURE OF ISAIAH IS NOW A BIBLE.. HE REAR SCRIPTURE OF ISAIAH....



You got the worship wrong... well i will quote the bible verse from original Bible...

John 4 :23-24
23. “Except that the hour is
coming, and it is now, when the faithful* worshippers
worship the Father in Spirit and truthfulness, for the Father
also wants worshippers such as these. 24. “Allaha is a
Spirit and those who worship him must* worship him in
Spirit and faithfulness*.” ... THE HOUR IS COMING, WHICH HOUR? IT'S HOUR OF WORSHIP.. I WILL NOW SHOW YOU THE VERSE WHERE JESUS WORSHIP ALLAH.

Mathew 26:36-39

36. Then Eashoa came with them to a place that is
called Gethsemane, and he said to his disciples, "Sit
here while I go pray."
37. And he fetched Keepa [Peter] and both sons of
Zebedee, and he began to feel sorrow* and
depression.
38. And he said to them, "My soul is sorrowing to
death. Stick with me then and hold the vigil."
39. And he stepped away a little,* and fell over his
face, and he prayed and said, "My father, if it is
possible, get me through this cup, however, not as I
wish, except as you will."

pray and worship are synonymous atimes.. when a Muslim is going to mosque, he will say i want to go and pray. and that act of praying is worship... and exactly how jesus prayed in that verse, several prophet In Bible prayed like that.. and religion was not perfected by Allah then, prophet Muhammad is the prophet that religion was perfected for because he's the last prophet.. that's why you could see that falling on face is also part of Muslim prayer.. we call it sujud.. you can call it bowing down and they call it fall on face..

NumberOne2:
As usual when points cannot be made, issues of ENGLISH language and TRANSLATIONS become the issue.

no no no... translation is the cause of all this misunderstanding...



I will only address the issue of Abraham (bolded in your comment below).

Tithes are given to GOD via a prophet. Tithes are NOT given to the Church. This is a wrong mindset of even some Christians today. Even the Jews did not give tithes to the Synagogue. As in the old days, they are given to GOD via a prophet (or Pastors as they are called today).

cool... love your explanation.. Abraham is a Prophet and he gave tithe to a king .according to the Bible... how come church, pastors and church members are related? who is prophet among them? who is king among them..


The King of Salem (Jerusalem) was a Prophet of God as shown in Hebrew 5...

so you implying that tithe are given from prophet to prophet?

PS: Hopefully you will not use your English tactic to tell me that Pastors are NOT mentioned in Old Testament.

all i want is a biblical prove that pastors are entitled to tithe...

am here to learn about what i don't know about Christianity.. that's main reason i have my own Bible

peace

shahydbinaliyu:


cool... love your explanation.. Abraham is a Prophet and he gave tithe to a king .according to the Bible... how come church, pastors and church members are related? who is prophet among them? who is king among them..

NumberOne2:


Refering to letters in BOLD:
When the Jews give tithes, who is the Prophet and who was the King?

Ifeann:




Jesus attended the Jewish synagogue before it was time for his mission on earth. He then preached the Gospel for 3 years before being crucified by people who claimed he blasphemied for sayiing he was the Son of God(as prophesied in isaiah 53) . However, he established the Christian church as contained in this verse (amongst others).

Matthew 16:13-20King James Version (KJV)
13 When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea
Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do
men say that I the Son of man am?
14 And they said, Some say that thou art John the
Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one
of the prophets.
15 He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I
am?
16 And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art
the Christ, the Son of the living God.
17 And Jesus answered and said unto him,
Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and
blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my
Father which is in heaven.


18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter,
and upon this rock I will BUILD MY CHURCH; and the
gates of hell shall not prevail against it.

19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the
kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt
bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and
whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be
loosed in heaven.
20 Then charged he his disciples that they should
tell no man that he was Jesus the Christ.





Jesus came to give not collect. He gives salvation. Many churches, particularly the orthodox churches don't collect tithes. They depend on freewill donations. Some others collect tithes, especially the contemporary ones. However giving is expected of us Christians, give to charity and to the church.



This is like asking a Jew, show me in the torah where Abraham or Moses read the torah or read the old testament. Infact as a muslim can u show me where Mohammed was reading the quran in the quran.




Google it. Tonnes are available online.


This is how Christ told us to pray and worship God,

Matthew 6:9-13
9 “This, then, is how you should pray:
“‘Our Father in heaven,
hallowed be your name,
10 your kingdom come,
your will be done,
on earth as it is in heaven.
11 Give us today our daily bread.
12 And forgive us our debts,
as we also have forgiven our debtors.
13 And lead us not into temptation, [ a ]
but deliver us from the evil one.

However Mohammed says allah has ONLY slaves. Here is one of Mohammeds quotes

Say (O Muhammad SAW): “OMy slaveswho believe (in the Oneness of Allah Islamic Monotheism), be afraid ofyour Lord(Allah) and keep your duty to Him. Good is (the reward) for those who do good in this world, and Allah's earth is spacious (so if you cannot worship Allah at a place, then go to another)! Only those who are patient shall receive their rewards in full, without reckoning.” S. 39:10 Al-Hilali&Khan

He never refers to people as God's children only Islamic allah's slaves.

So ponder on these brief answers to ur questions. I don't expect u to become Christian after reading it, pray that God guides you to the truth.