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Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 3:04am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
How does this correspond to the myth of consciousness flying into you?

A dead body won't respond to this conversation,so obviously you are conscious of this thread and even partaking in expanding it.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:04am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


You mean you cannot lie?? I am not aware of a separate being called God,because I am a God,so is my dog.We are all one and connected to conscious energy.
What is the color of my shirt?
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:07am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


A dead body won't respond to this conversation,so obviously you are conscious of this thread and even partaking in expanding it.
We are not talking about being conscious, are we? We are discussing the myth of consciousness flying into you.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 3:07am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
What is the color of my shirt?

I will need to see it to tell you. But you know it since you have observed it.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 3:07am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
We are not talking about being conscious, are we? We are discussing the myth of consciousness flying into you.

Flying into you how?
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:10am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


I will need to see it to tell you. But you know it since you have observed it.
Then you'll agree that we are separate and distinct but interdependent consciousness. smiley
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:12am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


Flying into you how?
Since our consciousness wasn't created by our parents, the only option left is for consciousness to fly into us, which is not thinkable, therefore, a myth.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 3:13am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Then you'll agree that we are separate and distinct but interdependent consciousness. smiley

Like I said earlier, we are one Consciousness experiencing different realities. Does that mean the bible God does knows the color of my Sofa?(since u claimed it exists)
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 3:14am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Since our consciousness wasn't created by our parents, the only option left is for consciousness to fly into us, which is not thinkable, therefore, a myth.

A baby is aware of everything happening around it. Awareness is an attribute of Consciousness.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:16am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


Like I said earlier, we are one Consciousness experiencing different realities. Does that mean the bible God doesn't know the color of my Sofa?(since u claimed it exists)
Experiencing different realities while having one consciousness? Who then is the divider of this 'single' consciousness? Why do we experience different realities with the same consciousness?
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 3:21am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


A baby is aware of everything happening around it. Awareness is an attribute of Consciousness.
A baby develops his own consciousness (triggered by his parents), all he does is by instinct. We create our own consciousness, consciousness doesn't create us. We are not a single consciousness experiencing different realities, that's plausible!
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by herex(m): 7:41am On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


Time is an illusion created by consciousness to experience different parallel realities at he same time. Life itself is consciousness, it never seizes to exist,it is eternal,it the you that observes space and time. Therefore,Life(consciousness) created time.
but i believe Time has existed Long long before Live came into existence
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 8:13am On May 08, 2015
herex:
but i believe Time has existed Long long before Live came into existence

You shouldn't believe,you should know. Time is an illusion used to experience different realities. Everything,every realities is happening now. Time helps you think they are happening now. Future,Present and Past are happening now. Time speeds up when you travel slow and slows when you travel fast. This means,the higher your vibration,the slower time becomes.At some point of high vibration,Time ceases to exist. This is an observed and researched phenomenon,not believed.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrqmMoI0wks
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 8:23am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
A baby develops his own consciousness (triggered by his parents), all he does is by instinct. We create our own consciousness, consciousness doesn't create us. We are not a single consciousness experiencing different realities, that's plausible!

A baby does not develop its own consciousness.A baby is consciousness which already exist,experiencing being a baby. I know you are trying to twist this to existence of the bible god. But that will be impossible since this god,this particular consciousness will be experiencing life too just like us. Therefore it means it is not everything and therefore not more powerful than you are. You are a creator of your different realities just like me.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 8:26am On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Experiencing different realities while having one consciousness? Who then is the divider of this 'single' consciousness? Why do we experience different realities with the same consciousness?

Time helps a low vibrating consciousness experience all possible realities in Present,Past and Future. These realities exist now!
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 8:43am On May 08, 2015
This may seem boring and long,but it will go a long way in explaining Time,and parallel universes/realities.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NYEthP0rh4
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Misogynist2014(m): 1:36pm On May 08, 2015
ifeness:


A baby does not develop its own consciousness.A baby is consciousness which already exist,experiencing being a baby. I know you are trying to twist this to existence of the bible god. But that will be impossible since this god,this particular consciousness will be experiencing life too just like us. Therefore it means it is not everything and therefore not more powerful than you are. You are a creator of your different realities just like me.
Yes, the Parent consciousness is just like our own consciousness (remember we were made in HIS image). The only difference is that this consciousness is in infinite state, boundless, limitless in all attributes. Most especially, without an end. It is HE who brings into existence what is (I AM).
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by Nobody: 7:06pm On May 08, 2015
Misogynist2014:
Yes, the Parent consciousness is just like our own consciousness (remember we were made in HIS image). The only difference is that this consciousness is in infinite state, boundless, limitless in all attributes. Most especially, without an end. It is HE who brings into existence what is (I AM).

Now you are rejecting who you really are. That is a unique feature of a low vibration-ed human. You need to set yourself free brother. You are everything you imagine,your thoughts play out into your reality.
Re: Does TIME Determine LIFE Or LIFE Determines Time? by oaroloye(m): 7:45am On Feb 04, 2020
SHALOM!

In The Beginning, GOD Created the Seven Heavens and the Earth Universe.

. SCIENTOLOGY AXIOMS 1-12.

Life is basically a Static.
Definition: a Life Static has no mass,
no motion, no wavelength,
no location in space or in time.
It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.
2. The Static is capable of Considerations,
Postulates, and Opinions.
3. Space, Energy, Objects, Form,
and Time are
the result of Considerations
made and/or agreed upon
or not by the Static,
and are perceived solely because
the Static considers
that it can perceive them.
4. Space is a Viewpoint of Dimension.
5. Energy consists of
postulated particles
in Space.
6. Objects consist of
grouped particles and solids.
7. Time is basically a postulate
that Space and particles will persist.
8. The apparency of Time is
the change of position
of particles in space.
9. Change is the primary
manifestation of Time.
10. The Highest Purpose
in this Universe
is the Creation of an Effect.

11. THE CONSIDERATIONS RESULTING IN
CONDITIONS OF EXISTENCE
ARE FOUR-FOLD.


(a) AS-IS-NESS is the condition of immediate creation
without persistence,
and is the Condition of Existence
which exists
at the moment of Creation
and the moment of Destruction,
and is different
from other Considerations
in that it does not contain Survival.

(b) ALTER-IS-NESS is the Consideration which introduces change
and therefore time and persistence, into an AS-IS-NESS
to obtain persistency.

(c) IS-NESS is an apparency of existence brought about
by the continuous alteration of an AS-IS-NESS.
This is called, when agreed upon, Reality.

(d) NOT-IS-NESS is the effort to handle IS-NESS
by reducing its condition through the use of force.
It is an apparency and cannot entirely vanquish an IS-NESS.

12. The Primary Condition
of any Universe is that
two Spaces, Energies,
or Objects
must not occupy
the same Space.
When this condition is violated
[Perfect Duplicate]
the Apparency of any Universe
or any part thereof is nulled.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

Clearly, LIFE created TIME.

Life has Seven Fundamental Attributes: AFFINITY, REALITY, COMMUNICATION, KNOWLEDGE, RESPONSIBILITY, CONTROL, AND UNDERSTANDING.

oaroloye:

. THE THREE LAWS OF MOTION. Isaac Newton

ALL OBJECTS REMAIN
IN A STATE OF REST,
OR UNIFORM MOTION
IN A STRAIGHT LINE,
UNLESS ACTED UPON BY
UNBALANCED FORCES.

2. THE RATE OF
CHANGE OF MOMENTUM
IS PROPORTIONAL TO
THE FORCE APPLIED.

3. ACTION AND REACTION
ARE EQUAL AND OPPOSITE.


. DIANETICS AXIOMS.

THE Source of Life is a static
of peculiar and particular properties

[A LIFE STATIC has no size,
no shape, no mass, no temperature,
no frequency, nor any other physical property.]

2. At least a portion of the static
called life is impinged upon
the Physical Universe.
3. That portion
of the Static of Life
which is impinged upon
the Physical Universe
has for its Dynamic Goal
SURVIVAL and ONLY Survival.
4. The Physical Universe
is reducible to motion of energy
operating in Space through Time.
5. That portion of the Static of Life
concerned with the Life Organisms
of the Physical Universe
is concerned WHOLLY with MOTION.

22. Theta and Thought
are similar orders of static.
23. All Thought is concerned
with Motion.
26. Thought is accomplished
by Theta Facsimiles
of Physical Universe,
Entities or Actions.
99. Theta Facsimiles can recombine
into new symbols.
100. Language is the symbolization
of effort.
101. Language depends for its force
upon the force which accompanied
its definition.

[Note: Counter-effort, not language, is aberrative.]

109. Behavior is modified
by Counter-Efforts which have
impinged on the Organism.
115. SELF-DETERMINISM is
the Theta Control of the Organism.
116. A SELF-DETERMINED EFFORT
is that Counter-Effort
which has been received
into the Organism in the Past
and integrated
into the organism
for its Conscious Use.
116. A SELF-DETERMINED EFFORT is
that Counter-Effort which has been
received into the Organism in the Past
and integrated into the organism
for its Conscious Use.
117. The components of Self-Determinism
are AFFINITY, COMMUNICATION,
and REALITY.

[THE EIGHT DYNAMICS: The Eight Levels
on which we Exist:

1. Self; 2. Family; 3. Groups;
4. All Mankind; 5. All Living Things;
6. The MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time-
i.e. PHYSICAL) Universe; 7. Spirits; 8. God.]

118. An Organism cannot
become aberrated unless
it has AGREED-UPON that Aberration,
has been IN COMMUNICATION WITH
a Source of Aberration,
and has HAD AFFINITY FOR
the Aberrator.
119. Agreement with any Source,
contra- or pro-Survival,
postulates a New Reality
for the organism.
121. Every Thought has been preceded
by Physical Action.
122. The Mind does with Thought
as it has done with entities in the Physical Universe.
127. All perceptions reaching
the organism's sense channels
are recorded and stored by Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Perception is the process
of recording data from
the Physical Universe and storing it
as a Theta Facsimile.

Definition: Recall is the process
of regaining Perceptions.
128. Any organism can recall
everything which it has perceived.

[See: SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: THE BOOK OF BASICS, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

THE SCIENTOLOGY TERM "FACSIMILE" IS CONSISTENT WITH THE BIBLICAL TERM "LOGOS."

What is most interesting is that L. RON HUBBARD used the term "THETA" the EIGHTH Greek letter, to qualify the sorts of SPIRITUAL ENERGY IMAGES that Humans normally have.

This implies that there are ETA Facsimiles, ZETA Facsimiles, EPSILON Facsimiles, DELTA Facsimiles, GAMMA Facsimiles, BETA Facsimiles, and ALPHA Facsimiles.

.   2nd PETER 1:5-9.

5. And besides this,
giving all diligence,
add to your Faith Virtue,
and to Virtue Knowledge,
6. And to Knowledge Temperance,
and to Temperance Patience,
and to Patience Godliness,
7. And to Godliness Brotherly Kindness,
and to Brotherly Kindness Charity.
8. For if these things be in you,
and abound,
they make you
that ye shall neither be
barren nor unfruitful
in The Knowledge
of our Lord Jesus Christ.
9. But he that lacketh
these things is blind,
and cannot see afar off,
and hath forgotten
that he was purged
from his old Sins.

IF "FAITH" IS A THETA FACSIMILE, AND "CHARITY" IS AN ALPHA FACSIMILE... SURELY YOU HAVE ENOUGH WISDOM TO FIGURE OUT THE REST WITHOUT HELP?

.    JOHN 8:28-36.

28. Then Said Jesus
unto them,

"When ye have lifted up
The Son of Man,
then shall ye know
that I am he,
and that I do
nothing of myself;
but as my Father
hath Taught me,
I Speak these things.
29. "And He that sent me
is with me:
The Father hath not
left me alone;
for I do always those things
that please Him."

30. As he Spake
these Words,
many believed on him.

31. Then Said Jesus
to those Jews
which believed on him,

"If ye continue
in my Word,
then are ye
my Disciples indeed;
32. "And ye shall
know The Truth,
and The Truth
shall make you Free."

33. They answered him,

"We be Abraham's Seed,
and were never in bondage
to any man:
how sayest thou,  

'YE SHALL BE
MADE FREE?' "


34. Jesus answered them,

"Verily, verily,
I Say unto you,

WHOSOEVER COMMITTETH SIN
IS THE SERVANT OF SIN.
35. 'AND THE SERVANT
ABIDETH NOT
IN THE HOUSE FOR EVER:
BUT THE SON
ABIDETH EVER.'


36. "If the Son therefore
shall make you free,
ye shall be free indeed."

CONTINUING IN THE WORD OF LORD YESHUA FORCES THE MIND TO CREATE SPECIFIC FACSIMILES WHICH STORE LIFE ENERGIES USED FOR PERCEPTION, CONCEPTION, AND RECALL.

These Life Energies are the SEVEN HEAVENLY- Alpha, Beta, Gamma, Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, and Eta- and the one Earthly: THETA.

These are created by the application of FAITH, VIRTUE, KNOWLEDGE, TEMPERANCE, PATIENCE, GODLINESS, BROTHERLY KINDNESS, and CHARITY.

Bacteriologist:

But my main point is this why would faith be required to know the truth?

ATHEISTS ARE THE LOWEST BREED OF HUMAN GARBAGE: YOU NEVER READ ANYWHERE IN THE BIBLE THAT FAITH IS REQUIRED TO KNOW THE TRUTH.
[/quote]

There are TEN BASIC PURPOSES of Life.

. THE TEN TALENTS OF POWER. (Matt. 25.)

1. TOTAL RECALL.
2. EXTRASENSORY PERCEPTION.
3. TELEKINESIS.
4. TELEPORTATION.
5. TRANSLATION.
6-10. EVERLASTING LIFE.


Awareness, that is, Life, has FORTY LEVELS:


All things that live are fed by Living Energy that comes to the Earth through seven Realms collectively called HEAVEN.

All things that Exist are made of Living Data, that look like fibres of Living Light. These would be THE WORDS OF GOD. Attempts to analyze them deeply KILLS MORTAL SEERS on the spot.

These light fibres never occur alone, but form CLUSTERS which are group together to form BANDS. Bands are grouped into GREAT BANDS.

The whole Earth is made up of BANDS of Spiritual Energy. These Bands occur in association with one another, called GREAT BANDS.

This Life Energy has three types consistent with Plants, with Insects, and with Animals.

BANDS contained in rigid containers called RECEPTACLES make specific "Non-Living" OBJECTS.

BAND contained in flexible containers called COCOONS make specific LIVING THINGS.

[See: THE FIRE FROM WITHIN, by Carlos Castaneda.]

FORTY GREAT SPIRITUAL ENERGY BANDS feed "Non-Living" structures in the Earth.

. THE 40 LEVELS OF AWARENESS.

40. SERENITY
30. POSTULATES
22. GAMES
20. ACTION
8.0 EXHILARATION
6.0 AESTHETICS

4.0 ENTHUSIASM
3.5 CHEERFULNESS
3.0 CONSERVATION
2.5 BOREDOM

2.0 OVERT HOSTILITY
1.8 PAIN
1.5 ANGER
1.4 HATE
1.2 NO SYMPATHY
1.1 COVERT HOSTILITY
1.0 FEAR
0.9 SYMPATHY
0.5 GRIEF
0.1 APATHY
0.0 BODY DEATH.


. THE EIGHT DYNAMICS.

1. SELF; 2. FAMILY; 3. GROUPS; 4. ALL MANKIND; 5. ALL LIVING THINGS; 6. THE MEST (Matter, Energy, Space, Time - PHYSICAL) UNIVERSE; 7. SPIRITS; 8. GOD.

. AWARENESS LEVELS REQUIRED TO COMMAND THE DYNAMICS.

8. SELF; 12. GROUPS; 15. ALL MANKIND; 22. MEST UNIVERSE; 32. SPIRITS; 40. GOD.

. THE SIX LEVELS OF EXISTENCE.

1. BELIEFS; 2. THOUGHTS; 3. WORDS; 4. PHYSICAL ACTIONS; 5. POSTULATES; 6. TOTAL UNDERSTANDING.

[SCIENTOLOGY 0-8: The Book of Basics, by L. Ron Hubbard.
THE DYNAMICS & TONE SCALE, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

. THE FOUR LEVELS OF PERCEPTION.

4. DIFFERENTIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the differences between similar things.

3. ASSOCIATION: the sane and intelligent ability
to perceive the similarities between different things.

2. IDENTIFICATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the differences between different things.

1. DISSOCIATION: the insane and stupid inability
to perceive the similarities between similar things.

0. DEATH: the inability to perceive anything at all.


[See: THE FUNDAMENTALS OF THOUGHT, by L. Ron Hubbard.]

GEOFFREY FILBERT WAS A CO-FOUNDER OF SCIENTOLOGY, WHO HAD HIS OWN OPINION ABOUT SOME OF LAFAYETTE RONALD HUBBARD'S FINDINGS.

There are two modes of Awareness: CHRONIC and ACUTE.

CHRONIC AWARENESS: Is the Rest State- from Level 0.0 to 4.0. This can be used to assess the amount of Life Force available.

ACUTE AWARENESS: Is that attained when processing a DYNAMICS PROBLEM.

If one's Acute Awareness Level meets the appropriate Level required to Command a Dynamic, the Problem It poses will be solved. If it does not, it will not be.

The Ability to solve Problems depends on Acute Awareness Level. At the Level required to solve a Dynamics Problem, WE BECOME THAT DYNAMIC.

That is to say, at 8.0 EXHILARATION, you are YOURSELF.

At 12.0 you are a GROUP.

At 15.0 you are ALL MANKIND.

At 22.0 GAMES, you are THE MEST UNIVERSE.

At 32.0 you are SPIRITS.

But at 40.0 SERENITY, you are GOD.

MIND AND MEST UNIVERSE ARE IN OPTIMUM HARMONY AT 22.0 GAMES LEVEL.

Beyond this, one's Mind OVERTAKES the MEST UNIVERSE- one begins to perceive events before they happen. That is 30.0 POSTULATION.

One can WILL which Events one WANTS to Happen/Not Happen.

FUTILE PRAYERS ARE THE ONES THAT NEVER REACH THIS LEVEL.


Mrs. OLUBUMNI DIYA'S Christmas Day, 2019, Prayers to raise her Husband, Son, and Daughter from the Dead FAILED, because she never reached this Level of Awareness.

LEAH SHABIRU'S Prayers for DELIVERANCE from the BOKO HARAM have ALL FAILED, because she never reached the NECESSARY AWARENESS LEVELS.


TIME is perceived as SLOWING DOWN. If you EXTERIORIZE in this zone, you will perceive that TIME can be POSTULATED to move in ANY of NINE Directions:

. THE NINE TIME VECTORS.

PAST to PAST; PAST to PRESENT; PAST to FUTURE.
PRESENT to PAST; PRESENT to PRESENT; PRESENT to FUTURE.
FUTURE to PAST; FUTURE to PRESENT; FUTURE to FUTURE.


[See: EXCALIBUR REVISITED, by Geoffrey Filbert.]

At the 40[b]th[/sup] Level of Awareness- SERENITY- TIME STOPS ALTOGETHER.

When Time Restarts, EVERYTHING THAT WAS STOPPED will be UNDER YOUR CONTROL.

Everything that was NOT stopped will NOT be under your Control. The implication is that THOSE THINGS, or BEINGS, can control YOU. They operate on a Higher Power Level than YOU.

To control them, you have to attain that BAND of Spiritual Power, and attain GOD-LEVEL in It.

THAT IS WHAT THE WORSHIP OF A GOD IS SUPPOSED TO BE FOR.

When people HIJACK Religions that do not belong to their people, or which they are disqualified from, they FALL INTO FOOLISH ASSUMPTIONS about what Its Rituals are FOR- and go through their MOTIONS BLINDLY, only THINKING that they know what they are doing.

Looking stupid and ridiculous to outside observers, of both those who KNOW, and those who DON'T KNOW The REAL Truth!

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