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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by nortcentrallord(m): 10:36am On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
hmmm quite enlightening wot u jst dug up about those easten states but i hope u r aware that these revenues comes from tax generated from the bussiness bodies there n hence u know anambra is one of a kind wen it comes 2 spare parts biz n stuffs but u still failed 2 address d issues @ hand that the IGwhatever goes back 2 d federation...a state not frequenting on its labour force salaries has to ddo with the states affairs in as long as the budget is being disbursed but most times the govt priotize on wot comes first n offcoures their own cut of the cake...but u have 2 awware that most times its always the federal govt fault...u mite wanna go back to the tinubu era of lagos state where other states got their own budget in full but the oppossing party's state was being dening theirs,then u come to realize that the govt policies can be very trickish.....well ts gud 2 knw d incoming president is apc,so the conflict mite not be much this time

Very true but from the time of Yaradua to this time, no state has been denied monthly allocation till date.
What did the governors do with the excess crude oil account that was disbursed a couple of years back? They looted them yet today most of them are complaining about the cut in allocation. When the allocation was in surplus, they were owing yet they didn't develop their states. So who is fooling who. I wish 70% of Nigerians could be @ breast with the happening in the government and politics then there would have been hope for my beloved Nigeria. Bad education is worse than illiteracy.

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by babajero(m): 10:37am On May 07, 2015
They simply used the money to campaign for buhari and themselves end of story, or where else do you think they got the kind of money they used for campaign.

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by loomer: 10:40am On May 07, 2015
esonuu:
dnt mind them,state govts doesnt give account of how much they generate internally or how it was spent,the governor can even pocket it and nobody wil ask him why..i once worked wit a consulting firm dat handled IGR matas in imo btw 2008-2012,same consultant is incharge of lagos IGR..imo then makes over 500million monthly,lagos makes ova 5billion monthly,the govt spends it how and on what they like and FG givs no damn about it

Na only God go judge all the governors
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by nortcentrallord(m): 10:42am On May 07, 2015
fyneguy:
Ok. if a state's allocation is N2 Billion and its wage bill is N2.6 Billion, should they spend all on paying salaries?

Please call the name of the state.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by 989900: 10:42am On May 07, 2015
Segunod:
With 50% drop in fedral allocation, how do u expect states with lower IGR to survive? Am sure the 50% most of this states recieve is not even enough to pay salaries and equally embark on developmental projects. GEJ spent almost 3trilion on his re-election campaign. Do u knw how far this money would hav gone in developing this nation?


I think each state should be putting more effort into generating income on their own.

However, I seriously don't get the 50% drop in FG revenue part.

They have stolen all the money.

Oil prices have been increasing for 2 months now, that aside, people were paid salaries even when oil was $30-$45 during OBJ's tenure.

When did we start selling oil for $100+ that we now think it is a given for oil to be sold at $100+?

At N199 to $1 (CBN), given that the gov't earns a large chunk of it's income in dollars, the gov't is still better placed than the average salary earner that bears the brunt.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Badosqi(m): 10:43am On May 07, 2015
Lanretoye:

There is actually no justification but not all states can emulate Lagos state,for years,Lagos survived without federal allocation...Some other states too have not paid for almost a year too,Osun state borrowed to pay for some months and is still owing about 6months now.it is not a news that the federal govt has failed.
oga forget that one of aregberascal, that guy na dunce. All he sabi na to blame fg. He has been doing that since november 2010 and he won't stop even when buhari gets there.
Are you telling me that fg has not been paying osun its allocation since november last year? how come Osun state owning 6 months salary/pension?
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Nobody: 10:43am On May 07, 2015
i feel they diverted the money for other projects.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by nortcentrallord(m): 10:47am On May 07, 2015
noblezone:
CHANGE is here!

No more salary delays.
In fact salaries would be paid of upfront!

Dont mind Jonathan, he stopped Okorocha and Amechi from paying salaries!



Hahahaha I feel u bro.

Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by chigoizie7(m): 10:53am On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
hmmm quite enlightening wot u jst dug up about those easten states but i hope u r aware that these revenues comes from tax generated from the bussiness bodies there n hence u know anambra is one of a kind wen it comes 2 spare parts biz n stuffs but u still failed 2 address d issues @ hand that the IGwhatever goes back 2 d federation...a state not frequenting on its labour force salaries has to ddo with the states affairs in as long as the budget is being disbursed but most times the govt priotize on wot comes first n offcoures their own cut of the cake...but u have 2 awware that most times its always the federal govt fault...u mite wanna go back to the tinubu era of lagos state where other states got their own budget in full but the oppossing party's state was being dening theirs,then u come to realize that the govt policies can be very trickish.....well ts gud 2 knw d incoming president is apc,so the conflict mite not be much this time


Quite enlightening. I must say,

13 months ago.
Includes 2013 nd 2014 fiscal budget years(2yrs budget dully implemented and funded)


On which platform was rochas elected?(Apga same as anambra)if I am correct
Was he having any itch with the center in 2013?
Even if he was marginalized,certainly not in 2013.

IGR of every state goes back to FG( was not aware of that)
Which means anambra state also remit to FG.

If all states IGR goes back to FG, imo states and anambra states inclusive,

How come Anambra could pay and imo couldn't?

Anambra carved a niche for themselves,they knew that the allocation from FG will not be enough and they started working hard to make up for the deficit.

What did rochas do? He came in and decleared free education, if he had done his feasibility studies on assumption to office he wouldn't ve been in this whole pool of shiiit.

I believe u re enlightened, and as such u knew that 2013 fiscal budget year ended around april 2014 and that of 2014 is around april this year as well.

If u calculate very well u will see that he was never in bad terms with FG when he started the owing, Thus. I put it that rochas was never a victim of marginalisation, he was totally incompetent.

I love ur broad skill of intelligence my brother, we are all learning, if their is any fact I didn't get correct,please endeavor to call me to order.


#my2cents.

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Badosqi(m): 10:55am On May 07, 2015
nortcentrallord:


Please call the name of the state.
that guy is talking is about Osun state
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by uduokirika1(m): 10:59am On May 07, 2015
Segunod:
With 50% drop in fedral allocation, how do u expect states with lower IGR to survive? Am sure the 50% most of this states recieve is not even enough to pay salaries and equally embark on developmental projects. GEJ spent almost 3trilion on his re-election campaign. Do u knw how far this money would hav gone in developing this nation?

3Trillion? I pity your mathematics teacher


How much is Nigeria's annual budget?
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Skoopy(m): 11:14am On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
mugu! the whole state revenue no be im federal govt dey come colet like armed robbers....

Guy, reason before you comment please, states generate revenues that locally through the various state internal revenue services and also through firms mandated to collect taxes on it's behalf. Revenues could be generated from :

1) agriculture
2) state owned institutions
3) state owned transport firms
4) taxes from businesses / companies
5) state owned estates
6) state owned hospitals
7) state owned companies among others.

Lagos State survived without allocation from FG during Tinubu's reign. Thanks

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by luthorcorp: 11:14am On May 07, 2015
nortcentrallord:


Very true but from the time of Yaradua to this time, no state has been denied monthly allocation till date.
What did the governors do with the excess crude oil account that was disbursed a couple of years back? They looted them yet today most of them are complaining about the cut in allocation. When the allocation was in surplus, they were owing yet they didn't develop their states. So who is fooling who. I wish 70% of Nigerians could be @ breast with the happening in the government and politics then there would have been hope for my beloved Nigeria. Bad education is worse than illiteracy.
from ur post bro it seems u comend ther federal govt 4 properly disbursing their midnite budgets but wot i dont get is wether u r actually blaming the states 4 not properly remiting the little remnants from the nnpc scamed cash or otherwise.i'm not @ any side here but one tin i am sure of is that these govt dont just name a price to the govt,jst like a market woman going to the market they list out wot they intend to spend their allocations on and in more cases than one,the govt nomarly do scale of preferences on them to scrap of their xcesses....in a nutshell all d govt officials,down to the mayor are all scams,even till they leave their seats,their good intentions is up for grabs....
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by luthorcorp: 11:25am On May 07, 2015
chigoizie7:



Quite enlightening. I must say,

13 months ago.
Includes 2013 nd 2014 fiscal budget years(2yrs budget dully implemented and funded)


On which platform was rochas elected?(Apga same as anambra)if I am correct
Was he having any itch with the center in 2013?
Even if he was marginalized,certainly not in 2013.

IGR of every state goes back to FG( was not aware of that)
Which means anambra state also remit to FG.

If all states IGR goes back to FG, imo states and anambra states inclusive,

How come Anambra could pay and imo couldn't?

Anambra carved a niche for themselves,they knew that the allocation from FG will not be enough and they started working hard to make up for the deficit.

What did rochas do? He came in and decleared free education, if he had done his feasibility studies on assumption to office he wouldn't ve been in this whole pool of shiiit.

I believe u re enlightened, and as such u knew that 2013 fiscal budget year ended around april 2014 and that of 2014 is around april this year as well.

If u calculate very well u will see that he was never in bad terms with FG when he started the owing, Thus. I put it that rochas was never a victim of marginalisation, he was totally incompetent.

I love ur broad skill of intelligence my brother, we are all learning, if their is any fact I didn't get correct,please endeavor to call me to order.


#my2cents.
broda i know u are knee bent on critisizing rocha but i suggest u dont compare anambra to imo even though they are both eastern,anambra is a big cog in the nigeria bussiness machine and if i'm not mistaking,almost 40% iof the spare parts ship to nigeria are moves made by anambra,inewi to be precise.so the can afford to manage their internal affairs even with the razzled cash by their agberoes there compare to little states filled with hotels and a few truckloads of cash crops that could barely substain them...
You are damn right rochas shouldnt have implemented the free education thingy,its now a bone of contention on his adam's apple but ofcoure this is naija,to win an election you must promise to build a bridge to heavy lest you be tought less realistic.....believe it even when the so called sai baba comes in,it might be difficult for his to even fit in with his ivy leagues of over archieving past leaders......
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by gannod(m): 11:36am On May 07, 2015
chigoizie7:




Out of the 36 states in this country, rochas,fashola,fayose,amaechi. Are owing, that is 4 out of 36, does it mean that the other 32 states went for bank robbery to pay salaries?

*how does non payment of salaries by rochas for 13months correlates with 50% drop in the price of oil?

*that 50% drop took effect in the last quater of 2014(around october-december).

*13months ago still runs on 2013 nd 2014 fiscal year budget. Which means all budgets has been duly approved and money disbursed for all states including imo,rivers and co for such yrs.

*what did rochas did with those money?

*do u know that payment of school fees is also a form of IGR?

Last bullet

Rochas is just an incompetent and an imbecilic fool. Who knows nothing about running a state and has refused to learn.


*my brother always try to get all ur facts straight before exhibiting ur illiteracy skill on a public forum.

#qoutemeanddie
#qoutemeandgetKleg
#my2cents



please stop adding Fayose to them,he owes only April salary and he is paying before the end of the week. Fayose is different,he prefers owing political appointees than to owe workers. That is one of the reasons Ekiti people are crazy about him.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by hush15: 11:42am On May 07, 2015
Jossyroyal1:
-but FG was responsible for not asking such state governors to give proper account of the allocations they were given right?
wat do u expect wen FG fail to tell them dat STEALING IS CORRUPTION....

you can all keep blaming the FG for state failures and gross incompetence.

How can federal government ask for state accounts where the state is autonomous in everything. the even have have the law enabling body. The governors are not accountable to the president and there is no where in any federal institution that does that except through the courts.

State governments generate funds also. what are the funds used for. there is no excuse for shifting blames. there have been spending, executing projects and campaigning and all sorts. If provision can be made for such, I wonder why salaries can't be priotized.

if we keep blaming the PDP, then APC will keep having excuse for everything as they will keep saying this was done by the PDP government and thus people shouldn't expect magic.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by megacity: 11:44am On May 07, 2015
An efficient state govt should be able to generate enough IGR to pay workers and use federal allocation for developmental projects.

If the workers cant generate enough revenues to pay their salaries, sack some of them! This is common sense and better than having to owe everybody for 13 months. Being owed for 13 months is as good as not having a job any way.



I no even understand these workers sef; if you owe me for 2 months, I don waka o

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by chigoizie7(m): 11:47am On May 07, 2015
gannod:




please stop adding Fayose to them,he owes only April salary and he is paying before the end of the week. Fayose is different,he prefers owing political appointees than to owe workers. That is one of the reasons Ekiti people are crazy about him.


Thanks for the correction bro.

Most of other states I used are just for examples.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by khattab02: 12:00pm On May 07, 2015
It is sadden for people to be working for months yet their peanut money can't be paid. There should be great effort to resolve this as soon as possible to avoid great injustice and negative effect on the society.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by chigoizie7(m): 12:02pm On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
broda i know u are knee bent on critisizing rocha but i suggest u dont compare anambra to imo even though they are both eastern,anambra is a big cog in the nigeria bussiness machine and if i'm not mistaking,almost 40% iof the spare parts ship to nigeria are moves made by anambra,inewi to be precise.so the can afford to manage their internal affairs even with the razzled cash by their agberoes there compare to little states filled with hotels and a few truckloads of cash crops that could barely substain them...
You are damn right rochas shouldnt have implemented the free education thingy,its now a bone of contention on his adam's apple but ofcoure this is naija,to win an election you must promise to build a bridge to heavy lest you be tought less realistic.....believe it even when the so called sai baba comes in,it might be difficult for his to even fit in with his ivy leagues of over archieving past leaders......




Noo, u are getting it all wrong.

Yes I am criticizing rochas(I hate his guts, so hypocritical).


What of osun, ebonyi,and soo on, are their IGR as big as that of anambra? No, but, hey. They. Were able to put their various homes in order,all rochas was doing was running up and down,looking for what FG did to him nd what dey ddnt do to him. An igbo adage says "onye ulo ya n'agba oku,adiro achu nta oke" (he,who house is on fire does not go rat hunting).

Remove that log from ur own eye b4 looking for whom u will remove theirs.

His house is in disarray ,yet he is bent on criticizing FG(I m not of the fact that FG aint corrupt oooh,No) but charity begins @home.

So,my brother,u re very correct,I hate rochas,not just as a human, but because of his hypocritical nature.

I hate hypocrites, they are very disgusting.

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Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by nortcentrallord(m): 12:09pm On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
from ur post bro it seems u comend ther federal govt 4 properly disbursing their midnite budgets but wot i dont get is wether u r actually blaming the states 4 not properly remiting the little remnants from the nnpc scamed cash or otherwise.i'm not @ any side here but one tin i am sure of is that these govt dont just name a price to the govt,jst like a market woman going to the market they list out wot they intend to spend their allocations on and in more cases than one,the govt nomarly do scale of preferences on them to scrap of their xcesses....in a nutshell all d govt officials,down to the mayor are all scams,even till they leave their seats,their good intentions is up for grabs....

Oga, I am not in support of any one but it disgusts me when people just use propaganda to hide their own mischief. He who comes to equity should come with clean hands. About the excess crude oil money that was disbursed, I have a very good information on that. I have friend who works in an office in a state and his position gives him opportunity to see a lot of files and documents. I could not believe how much was given out to even local governments then not to talk of what the state will get yet the chairmen did nothing. The story is the same everywhere. My question is, has any state ever complained since the time of Yaradua that the FG is owing them their monthly allocation? Look let me intimate you, the money that gets to the state government is more than enough to pay salaries and carry out developments. I know what I am saying. I know perfectly well. It is the attitude of politicians that is causing all this nonsence. Last time there was a casin in one state. I think that should be kogi state where the local government Chairmen were contributing 20 million each every month and some of these bloch head chairmen were owing their staffs for as much as 2-3 years. The months they try to pay, they just pay 10%, sometimes 20% and in good month 40%. What the hell is that! No development, no salary yet some are driving range rover sport.

Look, when the fault is that of the federal govt. Let's say and when the fault is from the state govt, let's say it without being biased. I just hate the blame game.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by nortcentrallord(m): 12:17pm On May 07, 2015
Badosqi:
that guy is talking is about Osun state


How much is Ogun state allocation from the federal government? How much is their salary structure? What is their IGR? How much is their over bloated governor, chairman and political office holders expenditure? Until you get these facts, then you can't make a judgment because one governor somewhere said something.

What if we were running a fiscal federalism or true federalism? Will they resign and say they wont be governors anymore? Everybody wants to be governor just to loot and not to solve problems. Thank God oil has dropped and will keep dropping because of more discoveries in other nations and alternative to fuel research. Let's see how mouth watering the position of governors will now be for hollow headed idiots.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by chigoizie7(m): 12:32pm On May 07, 2015
luthorcorp:
broda i know u are knee bent on critisizing rocha but i suggest u dont compare anambra to imo even though they are both eastern,anambra is a big cog in the nigeria bussiness machine and if i'm not mistaking,almost 40% iof the spare parts ship to nigeria are moves made by anambra,inewi to be precise.so the can afford to manage their internal affairs even with the razzled cash by their agberoes there compare to little states filled with hotels and a few truckloads of cash crops that could barely substain them...
You are damn right rochas shouldnt have implemented the free education thingy,its now a bone of contention on his adam's apple but ofcoure this is naija,to win an election you must promise to build a bridge to heavy lest you be tought less realistic.....believe it even when the so called sai baba comes in,it might be difficult for his to even fit in with his ivy leagues of over archieving past leaders......



Were u not the same fellow that said all IGR goes back to FG?
If all Anambra IGR could go to FG, then what are they working with?

Therefore,u don't ve any right to tell me to stop comparing Anambra to imo.

Please I dislike double standard set people, say something and stand by it.

#Nooffence
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by luthorcorp: 12:38pm On May 07, 2015
chigoizie7:




Were u not the same fellow that said all IGR goes back to FG?
If all Anambra IGR could go to FG, then what are they working with?

Therefore,u don't ve any right to tell me to stop comparing Anambra to imo.

Please I dislike double standard set people, say something and stand by it.

#Nooffence
okay u wanna know the truth? i doubt it coz its too bitter to chew...
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by oloriooko(m): 2:01pm On May 07, 2015
Jossyroyal1:
-but FG was responsible for not asking such state governors to give proper account of the allocations they were given right?
wat do u expect wen FG fail to tell them dat STEALING IS CORRUPTION....
So our governors need to be told that stealing is corruption?
Our sentiments most times belittles our intelligence.
We should stop providing shelter for corruption in the name of blame trade.
But all these useless governors had more than enough to prosecute their political ambitions.
How long shall these things be?
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Themandator: 2:29pm On May 07, 2015
Jossyroyal1:
-but FG was responsible for not asking such state governors to give proper account of the allocations they were given right?
wat do u expect wen FG fail to tell them dat STEALING IS CORRUPTION....


Your ignorance of what federalism is is wa
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Themandator: 2:32pm On May 07, 2015
chigoizie7:




Were u not the same fellow that said all IGR goes back to FG?
If all Anambra IGR could go to FG, then what are they working with?

Therefore,u don't ve any right to tell me to stop comparing Anambra to imo.

Please I dislike double standard set people, say something and stand by it.

#Nooffence

IGR belongs exclusively to the state generating it.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Oluwaplumpie(m): 3:24pm On May 07, 2015
Jossyroyal1:
-but FG was responsible for not asking such state governors to give proper account of the allocations they were given right?
wat do u expect wen FG fail to tell them dat STEALING IS CORRUPTION....
Dude, this country has laws! In those laws, it is not stated anywhere that the federal Govt can ask a state Govt to give them account. The FG is not even responsible for allocations... There's a commission for that. U sir, are the problem with Nigeria.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Oluwaplumpie(m): 3:25pm On May 07, 2015
fyneguy:
Ok. if a state's allocation is N2 Billion and its wage bill is N2.6 Billion, should they spend all on paying salaries?
Does that also mean they should owe their staff?
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Oluwaplumpie(m): 3:26pm On May 07, 2015
noblezone:
CHANGE is here!

No more salary delays.
In fact salaries would be paid of upfront!

Dont mind Jonathan, he stopped Okorocha and Amechi from paying salaries!
By stopping their allocations or by freezing their accounts? Art thou OK? U sir, are the problem with Nigeria.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Oluwaplumpie(m): 3:28pm On May 07, 2015
1stola:
Seriously, Almighty God will Punish any Governor who fails to pay their workers.
How can you owe a man with a wife and six children 13 months salary cry cry ROCHAS!!! THUNDER WILL FIRE YOU O angry
Others which includes
Aregbeshola
Ajimobi
Suswan
Jona Jang
Amuso and others,
God will punish all of you angry angry angry
This a country where legislators fail to implement 18,000 naira minimum wage for workers yet, they collect more than 20million naira per month.
GOD WILL PUNISH ALL OF YOU WITH INOPERABLE CANCERS angry angry angry
While I agree with ur anger, I pray against ur prayers. Two wrongs don't make a right. Don't add to Nigeria's problem with that mindset.
Re: FG Not Responsible For Failure Of States To Pay Salaries by Oluwaplumpie(m): 3:30pm On May 07, 2015
loomer:


Which whole state revenue, u smoke bomb?

Na all money lagos de make federal government de collect?

Oga check ur facts well.
State governments don't remit to the FG as much as u think. The FG is just entitled to federal taxes and that's all. The states are in control of their IGR. That's how Lagos was able to stay alive when OBJ illegally stopped their funds.

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