THIS MAN SPEAKS SOME TRUTH SHA!!!

HE USED TO BE A CHRISTIAN PASTOR TILL HE SAW THE LIGHT...



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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mX1RKMb5MPM

Religion is all about asserting cultural superiority so as to enslave the mind and gain access to undeserved resources.

Christianity Versus African Consciousness

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbFdGs4fv94

mmsen:
Religion is all about asserting cultural superiority so as to enslave the mind and gain access to undeserved resources.

GBAM!

mmsen:
Religion is all about asserting cultural superiority so as to enslave the mind and gain access to undeserved resources.

yep... Islam is one example, Arab supremacy with religion as its vehicle.

Heathen:
yep... Islam is one example, Arab supremacy with religion as its vehicle.

If there is one religion that does not profit from undeserved resources, it is Islam. Rather it strives to give back to the poor. There is no clergy in Islam to exploit the laity... unlike one other religion that I know.

Abuamam:


If there is one religion that does not profit from undeserved resources, it is Islam. Rather it strives to give back to the poor. There is no clergy in Islam to exploit the laity... unlike one other religion that I know.

Saudi Arabia by way of Mecca does not benefit from Islam?

What would happen to the Saudi tourist industry if hadj was no longer necessary? How would all of those expensive hotels that overlook the Kaaba survive without adherents of Islam feeling compelled to rush to Saudi at least once in their lives?

mmsen:


Saudi Arabia by way of Mecca does not benefit from Islam?

What would happen to the Saudi tourist industry if hadj was no longer necessary? How would all of those expensive hotels that overlook the Kaaba survive without adherents of Islam feeling compelled to rush to Saudi at least once in their lives?

The amount spent by the Saudi Arabian government on medical facilities and security in Hajj alone, could easily cover all that the hotel owners make. Not to talk of billions of dollars spent on expansions and infrastructure. Believe me, the Saudi government is not making any profits from Hajj. Rather, they see it as a duty to see to the safety and security of the pilgrims. The so-called Saudi tourist industry contributes practically nothing to their economy.

Abuamam:


The amount spent by the Saudi Arabian government on medical facilities and security in Hajj alone, could easily cover all that the hotel owners make. Not to talk of billions of dollars spent on expansions and infrastructure. Believe me, the Saudi government is not making any profits from Hajj. Rather, they see it as a duty to see to the safety and security of the pilgrims. The so-called Saudi tourist industry contributes practically nothing to their economy.

That is a complete lie. Hajj is vital to the Saudi economy.

[b]This weekend Gulf News reported that the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca accounts for 7 percent of Saudi Arabia’s gross domestic product. That’s saying a lot considering Arabia’s massive, oil-enriched GDP.

So today’s post is not about jihad or terrorist financing. Instead, its about the massive moneymaker that the hajj has become, particularly in terms of zakat payments to the Saudi government.

How does the hajj generate tax revenues for Saudi Arabia? All the businesses and individuals that cater to the pilgrims (including airports, hotels, retailers, etc) are making income from the hajj. Saudi Arabia, with its Islamic zakat tax, collects 2½ percent of individual Saudi wealth including anything that was generated from the hajj industry. Here are the details:

According to a field study, the monetary value of activities related to the Haj and Umrah exceeds $30 billion (Dh110.2 billion).

Unlike the Haj, Umrah can be performed at any time, though it is particularly popular during the fasting month of Ramadan. The figure covers travelling, accommodation and living expenses, as well as cost of animals for sacrifices.

The average cost of sacrificed animals amounts to about $130 per pilgrim. Other expenditures deal with purchases of gifts and spending on telecommunications.

To be sure, the statistics reflect the multiplier effect on the economy, as every riyal spent brings about four additional riyals. Undoubtedly, this is a sizeable amount by virtue of making up around 7 per cent of the kingdom’s gross domestic product…

Four cities in western Saudi Arabia benefit substantially from the Haj, namely Makkah, Madinah, Jeddah and Taif. King Abdul Aziz Airport in Jeddah serves as the gateway to Makkah.

In addition, Saudi tourism authorities encourage wealthy pilgrims to visit other places in the vast kingdom, including tourist sites in the south, which are not too far from the holy places.

The annual Haj in particular serves as a golden opportunity for Saudi businesses to launch new consumer products. Demand tends to be the order of the day during the season, as locals refer to the Haj.

Saudi firms can learn vital information about their products from more than 2 million pilgrims, the majority of whom are foreign nationals. As such, freshly developed Saudi products can be subjected to improvement prior to marketing them in the other five member states comprising the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

In fact, many GCC nationals tend to perform the Haj on a regular basis. In turn, Haj contractors rely on them to generate steady income.

Opportunities

Additionally, the Haj season provides employment opportunities for thousands of Saudi nationals. Some Saudis, including youngsters, engage in simple trading activities such as selling foodstuffs and prayer beads.

The Saudi economy needs to generate more than 160,000 jobs a year to cope with demand.

Yet, other Saudis and foreign residents use their private vehicles to transport pilgrims. Also, some Makkah residents rent their structures to firms arranging for pilgrims to support their living expenses throughout the year…

The article also indicates that many Saudis under-report their hajj wealth in order to avoid the zakat tax. Muhammad wouldn’t like that. He forecast that tax deadbeats would “taste the burning” of hell, and that their withheld wealth would become a like a snake that would wrap around their necks and hiss, “I am your wealth.”[/b]

http://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/haj-vital-to-saudi-economy-1.533412

mmsen:


That is a complete lie. Hajj is vital to the Saudi economy.

[b]This weekend Gulf News reported that the Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca accounts for 7 percent of Saudi Arabia’s gross domestic product. That’s saying a lot considering Arabia’s massive, oil-enriched GDP.

So today’s post is not about jihad or terrorist financing. Instead, its about the massive moneymaker that the hajj has become, particularly in terms of zakat payments to the Saudi government.

How does the hajj generate tax revenues for Saudi Arabia? All the businesses and individuals that cater to the pilgrims (including airports, hotels, retailers, etc) are making income from the hajj. Saudi Arabia, with its Islamic zakat tax, collects 2½ percent of individual Saudi wealth including anything that was generated from the hajj industry. Here are the details:

According to a field study, the monetary value of activities related to the Haj and Umrah exceeds $30 billion (Dh110.2 billion).

Unlike the Haj, Umrah can be performed at any time, though it is particularly popular during the fasting month of Ramadan. The figure covers travelling, accommodation and living expenses, as well as cost of animals for sacrifices.

The average cost of sacrificed animals amounts to about $130 per pilgrim. Other expenditures deal with purchases of gifts and spending on telecommunications.

To be sure, the statistics reflect the multiplier effect on the economy, as every riyal spent brings about four additional riyals. Undoubtedly, this is a sizeable amount by virtue of making up around 7 per cent of the kingdom’s gross domestic product…

Four cities in western Saudi Arabia benefit substantially from the Haj, namely Makkah, Madinah, Jeddah and Taif. King Abdul Aziz Airport in Jeddah serves as the gateway to Makkah.

In addition, Saudi tourism authorities encourage wealthy pilgrims to visit other places in the vast kingdom, including tourist sites in the south, which are not too far from the holy places.

The annual Haj in particular serves as a golden opportunity for Saudi businesses to launch new consumer products. Demand tends to be the order of the day during the season, as locals refer to the Haj.

Saudi firms can learn vital information about their products from more than 2 million pilgrims, the majority of whom are foreign nationals. As such, freshly developed Saudi products can be subjected to improvement prior to marketing them in the other five member states comprising the Gulf Cooperation Council (GCC).

In fact, many GCC nationals tend to perform the Haj on a regular basis. In turn, Haj contractors rely on them to generate steady income.

Opportunities

Additionally, the Haj season provides employment opportunities for thousands of Saudi nationals. Some Saudis, including youngsters, engage in simple trading activities such as selling foodstuffs and prayer beads.

The Saudi economy needs to generate more than 160,000 jobs a year to cope with demand.

Yet, other Saudis and foreign residents use their private vehicles to transport pilgrims. Also, some Makkah residents rent their structures to firms arranging for pilgrims to support their living expenses throughout the year…

The article also indicates that many Saudis under-report their hajj wealth in order to avoid the zakat tax. Muhammad wouldn’t like that. He forecast that tax deadbeats would “taste the burning” of hell, and that their withheld wealth would become a like a snake that would wrap around their necks and hiss, “I am your wealth.”[/b]

http://gulfnews.com/business/analysis/haj-vital-to-saudi-economy-1.533412

Sure, although the actual figure is more like 3% of the gdp, depending on oil prices...

http://www.arabnews.com/revenue-pilgrims-makes-3-saudi-gdp

There is no doubt that some traders, restaurant owners and taxi drivers gain. Overall the economy is little better for it, and the Saudi government could probably do better if they spent the money used for Hajj infrastructure and security, on developing their manufacturing industry. We need to look at the opportunity costs also. Total spent on mosque expansion alone could easily get to $20billion, not to talk of recurrent infrastructure, and the average annual revenue (not profit) from pilgrims is rarely more than that. You also need to remember that GDP is also not profit.

On the whole, would the Saudi economy go into recession if not for Hajj? No. Some people may just have to develop other skills, and real estate may go down in the pilgrimage sites and up in agricultural and industrial sites. That is all.

Abuamam:


Sure, although the actual figure is more like 3% of the gdp, depending on oil prices...

http://www.arabnews.com/revenue-pilgrims-makes-3-saudi-gdp

There is no doubt that some traders, restaurant owners and taxi drivers gain. Overall the economy is little better for it, and the Saudi government could probably do better if they spent the money used for Hajj infrastructure and security, on developing their manufacturing industry. We need to look at the opportunity costs also. Total spent on mosque expansion alone could easily get to $20billion, not to talk of recurrent infrastructure, and the average annual revenue (not profit) from pilgrims is rarely more than that. You also need to remember that GDP is also not profit.

On the whole, would the Saudi economy go into recession if not for Hajj? No. Some people may just have to develop other skills, and real estate may go down in the pilgrimage sites and up in agricultural and industrial sites. That is all.

Saudi Arabia already has a high unemployment rate - it could not afford to lose 160,000+ jobs in one fell swoop.

There are very clear economic and cultural benefits to convincing Muslims from all over the world that they should visit Mecca at least once. Soft power is just as important as economic and military prowess.

Hajj might account for 3% but alongside Umrah it is at least 7%.

mmsen:


Saudi Arabia already has a high unemployment rate - it could not afford to lose 160,000+ jobs in one fell swoop.

There are very clear economic and cultural benefits to convincing Muslims from all over the world that they should visit Mecca at least once. Soft power is just as important as economic and military prowess.

Hajj might account for 3% but alongside Umrah it is at least 7%.

I could argue that just tightening immigration on all the foreigners working in Saudi Arabia would free millions of jobs. I have been there, most of those jobs lost would be those held by non-Saudis.

Even if your argument were true, there is still no 'class' of religious clergy that these gains accrue to; those who gain most are the food vendors, the taxi drivers, the tesbiu and cap sellers... hardly what you would expect a religion created for economic purpose to empower. For example, the millions of livestock that are slaughtered during eid, in commemoration of Abraham's sacrifice, have to be prepared and shipped to poorer Muslim countries at no cost. They are not even raised in Saudi, but imported mostly from Australia; who also gains points on their GDP from the export. I just cite this to show that any economic transaction involves revenue and costs, and will likely result in beneficiaries. In Islam these beneficiaries are not limited to a certain class or group. That is my point.

Abuamam:


I could argue that just tightening immigration on all the foreigners working in Saudi Arabia would free millions of jobs. I have been there, most of those jobs lost would be those held by non-Saudis.

Even if your argument were true, there is still no 'class' of religious clergy that these gains accrue to; those who gain most are the food vendors, the taxi drivers, the tesbiu and cap sellers... hardly what you would expect a religion created for economic purpose to empower. For example, the millions of livestock that are slaughtered during eid, in commemoration of Abraham's sacrifice, have to be prepared and shipped to poorer Muslim countries at no cost. They are not even raised in Saudi, but imported mostly from Australia; who also gains points on their GDP from the export. I just cite this to show that any economic transaction involves revenue and costs, and will likely result in beneficiaries. In Islam these beneficiaries are not limited to a certain class or group. That is my point.

Your first comment is very true and something I've always found strange about Saudi Arabia. They have 5 million unemployed (officially) yet have 5 million expats, the employers would argue it comes down to a lack of skills.

The article that I linked mention that they all pay tax on their earnings (even if they under report their earnings so as to cheat the taxman), the authorities gain from the tourism. The Saudi royal family ensure that the religious authorities are well catered for, to the extent that they can build mosques and schools abroad to spread the ideology and further their soft power.

Just because some of the wealth trickles down does not negate that the primary beneficiaries are those at the top of the political and religious pyramid.

mmsen:


Your first comment is very true and something I've always found strange about Saudi Arabia. They have 5 million unemployed (officially) yet have 5 million expats.

The article that I linked mention that they all pay tax on their earnings (even if they under report their earnings so as to cheat the taxman), the authorities gain from the tourism. The Saudi royal family ensure that the religious authorities are well catered for, to the extent that they can build mosques and schools abroad to spread the ideology and further their soft power.

Just because some of the wealth trickles down does not negate that the primary beneficiaries are those at the top of the political and religious pyramid.

I do not know why a country with foreign assets and deposits of nearly a trillion dollars, would be so concerned about a $10billion annual income (NOT profit). I do not know why a King whose family control the world's largest oilfields, would bother spending billions of dollars yearly on a pilgrimage that gets him no returns.

BTW, just as an aside, zakat is not paid on income but on savings. retained for a full year. Also the government is not entitled to spend the zakat as they like... the beneficiaries of zakat are very strictly restricted to the categories listed in Quran9:60 by consensus.

It seems that atheists tend to only feel comfortable when they lump all religions under the same category. They don't have to do so much work refuting them that way.

Abuamam:


I do not know why a country with foreign assets and deposits of nearly a trillion dollars, would be so concerned about a $10billion annual income (NOT profit). I do not know why a King whose family control the world's largest oilfields, would bother spending billions of dollars yearly on a pilgrimage that gets him no returns.

BTW, just as an aside, zakat is not paid on income but on savings. retained for a full year. Also the government is not entitled to spend the zakat as they like... the beneficiaries of zakat are very strictly restricted to the categories listed in Quran9:60 by consensus.

It seems that atheists tend to only feel comfortable when they lump all religions under the same category. They don't have to do so much work refuting them that way.

You forget that Saudi Arabia has not always been wealthy, it was one of the poorest regions on the planet for much of its history. It was only when the (would be) Aramco representatives met with the Sauds that Saudi Arabia became a prosperous nation. Before then they had a series of towns and a lot of poverty. The hajj has always been a means of generating wealth. When the oil eventually runs out or becomes less valuable it will always be there, so long as there are exploitable muslims.

It's about soft power and ensuring that as many people are employed as possible.

They would struggle to maintain power otherwise.

Without Islam would so many people see the need to learn Arabic? That is a power play.

Islam was a means of spreading Arab culture and increasing Arab power - I find it interesting when I come into contact with non-Arab muslims who have a problem acknowledging that. I have seen how Arabs treat non-Arab muslims - it is quite clear to me what the situation is, only the devout muslims pretend that things are otherwise.

Abuamam:


There is no clergy in Islam to exploit the laity...

Sharia law is worse than all other forms of exploitations combined. And the clergy are the ringleaders behind that archaic judicial system.

Speaker: Say "religion".

Sheeple: "religion!"



The irony.

sinequanon:
Speaker: Say "religion".

Sheeple: "religion!"



The irony.

Unfair......he's eliciting audience participation. 'Call and response' is a very effective African convention used in song and speech. Focus on the substance not the style.

ROSSIKE:
Unfair......he's eliciting audience participation. 'Call and response' is a very effective African convention used in song and speech. Focus on the substance not the style.

Participation, but hardly dialectic.

More like catechism at its worst!

sinequanon:


Participation, but hardly dialectic.

More like catechism at its worst!

Garbage. The man is an advocate. Communication does not have to be dialectic.

mmsen:


Your forget that Saudi Arabia has not always been wealthy, it was one of the poorest regions on the planet for much of its history. It was only when the Aramco met with the Sauds that Saudi Arabia became a prosperous nation. Before then they had a series of few towns and a lot of poverty. The hajj has always been a means of generating wealth. When the oil eventually runs out or becomes less valuable it will always be there, so long as there are exploitable muslims.

It's about soft power and ensuring that as many people are employed as possible.

They would struggle to maintain power otherwise.

Without Islam would so many people see the need to learn Arabic? That is a power play.

Islam was a means of spreading Arab culture and increasing Arab power - I find it interesting when I come into contact with non-Arab muslims who have a problem acknowledging that. I have seen how Arabs treat non-Arab muslims - it is quite clear to be what the situation is, only the devout muslims pretend that things are otherwise.

No doubt, the Arabs were raised up by their acceptance of Islam, but it was incidental, rather than causative. They could not have strategised that such and such a system of religion is what would give us prestige; then gone ahead to invent it.

In order to assert your last paragraph, you would have to prove that the disjointed desert Arabs came together 15 centuries ago, to create a religion for the purpose of taking over the world. This is historically untenable with the kind of societal set up in Arabia at that time; added to the fact that if that was their plan, then why were they against the prophet (saw)?. Furthermore, the rite of pilgrimage to Mecca was already a sort of economic advantage during centuries of pre-Islamic periods. Why did they have to rock the boat and invent Islam to create a benefit that was already accruing to them; especially when the outcome would have been uncertain? You are trying to 'reverse engineer' history; ignoring all factors that don't fit in. Wrong methodology.

Yes, some Arabs are racist, but the issue is not that of religion as it is due to experiences or misinformation; just as all Nigerians generally, are deemed suspect in nearly every foreign nation; Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Buddhist or Hindu. Some Arabs see foreigners as lacking the basic morals that the Arabs value. For example, most Arab families would not permit their son marrying an African lady; not because they think Africans are inferior; but because they are made to believe that African girls tend to behave in a more immoral fashion and are likely to have had multiple sexual partners before marriage...true to a certain extent. Others see that the majority of crimes in their country are committed by foreigners; for example, witchcraft in Saudi Arabia is almost exclusively practised by Africans; so they treat them with contempt as ignorant ofIslam. On the religious side, many Muslim foreigners are held in high esteem in Saudi Arabia as accomplished religious scholars, and have held posts as professors in their most prestigious religious schools. Dr Adel alKalbani; who is black; was even appointed as the chief Imam of the Haram mosque in Mecca at a time. So the issue of racism is not a religious issue; Islam actually condemns judgement based on colour or nation.

Weah96:





Sharia law is worse than all other forms of exploitations combined. And the clergy are the ringleaders behind that archaic judicial system.

Your opinion bro. I prefer to think of the Sharia as made for the benefit of mankind; when properly implemented with the necessary knowledge.

ROSSIKE:
Garbage. The man is an advocate. Communication does not have to be dialectic.

This is pedagogy, not advocacy.

The irony is that he is still in religion mode.

Anyway, you have always been an "ends justifies the means" believer.

Abuamam:


No doubt, the Arabs were raised up by their acceptance of Islam, but it was incidental, rather than causative. They could not have strategised that such and such a system of religion is what would give us prestige; then gone ahead to invent it.

In order to assert your last paragraph, you would have to prove that the disjointed desert Arabs came together 15 centuries ago, to create a religion for the purpose of taking over the world. This is historically untenable with the kind of societal set up in Arabia at that time; added to the fact that if that was their plan, then why were they against the prophet (saw)?. Furthermore, the rite of pilgrimage to Mecca was already a sort of economic advantage during centuries of pre-Islamic periods. Why did they have to rock the boat and invent Islam to create a benefit that was already accruing to them; especially when the outcome would have been uncertain? You are trying to 'reverse engineer' history; ignoring all factors that don't fit in. Wrong methodology.

Yes, some Arabs are racist, but the issue is not that of religion as it is due to experiences or misinformation; just as all Nigerians generally, are deemed suspect in nearly every foreign nation; Muslim, Christian, Atheist, Buddhist or Hindu. Some Arabs see foreigners as lacking the basic morals that the Arabs value. For example, most Arab families would not permit their son marrying an African lady; not because they think Africans are inferior; but because they are made to believe that African girls tend to behave in a more immoral fashion and are likely to have had multiple sexual partners before marriage...true to a certain extent. Others see that the majority of crimes in their country are committed by foreigners; for example, witchcraft in Saudi Arabia is almost exclusively practised by Africans; so they treat them with contempt as ignorant ofIslam. On the religious side, many Muslim foreigners are held in high esteem in Saudi Arabia as accomplished religious scholars, and have held posts as professors in their most prestigious religious schools. Dr Adel alKalbani; who is black; was even appointed as the chief Imam of the Haram mosque in Mecca at a time. So the issue of racism is not a religious issue; Islam actually condemns judgement based on colour or nation.

At no point did I say that they had any foresight or planning for global domination when it came to spreading Islam and Arabic culture. The first goal was always to unify the local tribes, from there they took their opportunities to spread to other parts of the world.

How does 'jinn' differ from 'with craft'? - both are rooted in ignorance. That is my point about Islam being a tool for the spread of Arab cultural superiority. Why are their superstitions any less false than those of the Africans?

Your use of the chief imam of the main Mecca mosque as an example is similar to someone using Barack Obama as an example of racial equality in north America - those are two anomalies.

One of these days African muslims and xtians will open their eyes to the truth.

mmsen:


At no point did I say that they had any foresight or planning for global domination when it came to spreading Islam and Arabic culture. The first goal was always to unify the local tribes, from there they took their opportunities to spread to other parts of the world

Your use of the chief imam of the main Mecca mosque as an example is similar to someone using Barack Obama as an example of racial equality in north America - those are two anomalies.

Again I ask, if the intent was to unify the tribes, why create a totally new religion? They were pretty much agreed on idol worship. Why were the leaders against it? Why choose a relatively poor orphan to lead the unified tribes; when there were the mighty rulers of Quraish and other major tribes? Come on. Your theory holds no water... has too many holes.

You cannot say that all US whites are racist. Obama needed a majority. Whites (who are presumably non-racist) voted for him too. So it would be as wrong to condemn ALL, or even MOST whites as racist, as it is to condemn all or most Arabs as racist; using both Obama and Sheikh alKalbani's analogies. In any case, you tried to project racism on Islam, and I am just showing you how paradoxical it is, for a supposedly racist religion, putting a victim of its racism in its most esteemed position. Rather like the vatican appointing an atheist as pope.

mmsen:
Religion is all about asserting cultural superiority so as to enslave the mind and gain access to undeserved resources.

Concisely.

mmsen:


Saudi Arabia by way of Mecca does not benefit from Islam?

What would happen to the Saudi tourist industry if hadj was no longer necessary? How would all of those expensive hotels that overlook the Kaaba survive without adherents of Islam feeling compelled to rush to Saudi at least once in their lives?

You forgot to mention that through religion and the cultural hegemony that it seeks to have, Saudi Arabia is the world's biggest exporter and sponsor of international terrorism.
This is fact, not my opinion.

Abuamam:


Your opinion bro. I prefer to think of the Sharia as made for the benefit of mankind; when properly implemented with the necessary knowledge.

Properly implemented by other humans You overestimate the generosity and decency of human beings, my brother.

sinequanon:


This is pedagogy, not advocacy.

The irony is that he is still in religion mode.

Anyway, you have always been an "ends justifies the means" believer.

lol...Have you anything to say about the substance? We know you're not a fan of his style.

ROSSIKE:


lol...Have you anything to say about the substance? We know you're not a fan of his style.

He is someone who is beginning to wake up, albeit in a loud and flamboyant fashion.

I am trying to picture him in moments of "quiet reflection", but the image is blurred.

Abuamam:


Again I ask, if the intent was to unify the tribes, why create a totally new religion? They were pretty much agreed on idol worship. Why were the leaders against it? Why choose a relatively poor orphan to lead the unified tribes; when there were the mighty rulers of Quraish and other major tribes? Come on. Your theory holds no water... has too many holes.

You cannot say that all US whites are racist. Obama needed a majority. Whites (who are presumably non-racist) voted for him too. So it would be as wrong to condemn ALL, or even MOST whites as racist, as it is to condemn all or most Arabs as racist; using both Obama and Sheikh alKalbani's analogies. In any case, you tried to project racism on Islam, and I am just showing you how paradoxical it is, for a supposedly racist religion, putting a victim of its racism in its most esteemed position. Rather like the vatican appointing an atheist as pope.

Why does anyone create a cult? There is always power in creating cults.

Why did the Sauds fight for supremacy against their fellow Arabs? If not for control and power?

Why do we have Shias and Sunnis?

I did not say that all Americans were racist. I mentioned that America has a problem with racism. The proof of that is very evident in their media. Religions and nations do not exist without people - I simply pointed out that many Arab muslim societies have a problem with bigotry that goes unaddressed. Because both societies have people of African origin in figure head positions does not mean that they have solved their issues pertaining to racism.

Abuamam:


Your opinion bro. I prefer to think of the Sharia as made for the benefit of mankind; when properly implemented with the necessary knowledge.

This is complete fact
Sharia has put people who have no business with Arab culture accept it as God's mandate
This again is subject to abuse by imams who would love to make sheeps out of their faithful