so you quit whenever you feel attacked?

Depending on the circumstances.

@LORDIMAQ

lol who told you that every one who smokes weed or does coke is overpowered by it or is in bondage to it?
ever heard of morphine, novocain and medical marijuana?
ever of valium and lexotan?
drinking alcohol nko
i wonder if those ones too are sins

as you rightly said, anything that will overpowered or cause to be in bondage taht you exclude christ is a sin, for a lot of ppl that thing is coke adn weed because they dont know how to control it and for some ppl it is porn, women, coffee whatever. the thing that makes weed or even coke and nicotine so bad and dangerous is that it is VERY HABIT FORMING that is why you are advised to stay away from it.

let me give you an analog. is it a sin to live with your bf? nope it aint esp if you guys are doing it to save money, but why is it frowned upon? because y'all are in an occasion of sin nd will be tempted sorely to have sex, and moreover you will start doing husband and wife before it is necessary. the temptation to have sex is greater than say the temptation to have sex with a male roomie that isnt your bf. in the same doing weed or coke can be said to be an occasion of sin, because the temptation to abuse it and become addicted is so high and then you let it replace God in your life. the tempation to become addicted or the risk is far less than if you were taking novocain which is a close cousin of cocaine but is FDA approved.

there is a diff. and i still stand by doing weed and coke isnt a sin.

gigitte:

there is a diff. and i still stand by doing weed and coke isnt a sin.

I guess my dizziness is really getting at me now. I need some sleep now. I'll come back tomorrow to confirm whether what I'm seeing here is actually what was posted.

we better watch it,these are signs of the anti-christ,read mathew 24 very well. GOD says

they will perform signs and wonders even to deceive the elite. my Jesus is not an idol and

can never be.

What a wonder, how can an ordinary statue of Jesus bleed. It is not christianly for such. a status have no life in it and it is biblically out of place to ever think of the posibility of this satan motivated deception. Let christians be on the watch. we are in the last days and we must be careful not to be deceived in any way at all.

God does not support status in churches. it is an act of raising images in the likeness of things in the heaven above such as is of the so called Jesus status in warri.

If this is strange, what about the little muslim child that knew the quran from the womb, neither would the bleeding cross or any of such be evidence of God accepted religion. The test for true religion is in the experience of christ and acceptation of his personality.

The devil can get into and idol and it begins to bleed to confuse the world. beware of these leaven of the catholics. Don't be decieved.

Know for sure that Christ never spoke about bleeding cross or appearnce of the so-called Mary for a sign of the end time.

Hmmmmmmmmmm, so Mary is now "the so-called Mary'. Lord have MERCY!!!!!

KDK:


Seriously speaking, I thot we were meant to rub minds in these forums? It is becoming something else. Abeg, join me in begging these guys to stop arguing about money and concentrate on statues being worshipped in the catholic church.

KDK, Pls take your time, How can u say that STATUES ARE BEING WORSHIPPED IN THE CATHOLIC CHURCH, May God have mercy on you.

Your problem is simply Ignorance

rojen:

we better watch it,these are signs of the anti-christ,read mathew 24 very well. GOD says

they will perform signs and wonders even to deceive the elite. my Jesus is not an idol and

can never be.

In the chapter you quoted above, Mathew chapter 24, Jesus was talking about the fake preachers and miracles workers that would come and deceave people in the latter time or in the end time . Jesus said he would turn His back on them at the judgement despite their plea that they perform many miracles and cure many deseases. Where did Jesus refer to inanimate object in that chapter?

If you are to take precaution, you need to fear those who perform miracles and are advertising them for manetary gain or popularity.

Wilspring:

What a wonder, how can an ordinary statue of Jesus bleed. It is not christianly for such. a status have no life in it and it is biblically out of place to ever think of the posibility of this satan motivated deception. Let christians be on the watch. we are in the last days and we must be careful not to be deceived in any way at all.

God does not support status in churches. it is an act of raising images in the likeness of things in the heaven above such as is of the so called Jesus status in warri.

If this is strange, what about the little muslim child that knew the quran from the womb, neither would the bleeding cross or any of such be evidence of God accepted religion. The test for true religion is in the experience of christ and acceptation of his personality.

The devil can get into and idol and it begins to bleed to confuse the world. beware of these leaven of the catholics. Don't be decieved.

Know for sure that Christ never spoke about bleeding cross or appearnce of the so-called Mary for a sign of the end time.

You are asking how an ordinary statue bleeds? The same way the Scibes and Pharisees were asking so many questions about Jesus's work. How can he say we should eat His blood? How can He say He will rebuild the temple in three days? How can He say He will rise again. How can He equate Himself to the Father? Where is it written in the scriptures? etc

Also do you think that it was every thing done by Christ that was written? In any case the book of revelation chapter 12 while describing the battle against the beast, described Mary as a great and mysterous sign appearing in the sky. Rev 12:17 told us that the beast waged a war against Mary's children, those who are true to God's teachings. Read it and be enligntened about Mary and Her end time mission.

@ Ugonna0071,
Why are you so particular abt "the so called Mary" ? Is she sacred? Are those statues that you worship sacred? Tell me so that I'll be able to mind my speeches here. You better educate me now before I commit a taboo  . _{Hmmm, where have you been?}

Unbelievable

@elampiro,
your  line of argument cracks me up  . I reserve my other statements.Can you do me the favour of sending me one of those statues so that I can break it to bits before your eyes? NONSENSE!!! Idolatry in the name of religion and under the auspices of Christianity . Let me re-emphasise this: Roman Catholicism is a RELIGION but Christianity is a WAY OF LIFE.


@Seun,
E be like say you be catholic or muslim, either way, i don't care how many times you ban me; I will continually speak the truth.  

Wilspring:

What a wonder, how can an ordinary statue of Jesus bleed. It is not christianly for such. a status have no life in it and it is biblically out of place to ever think of the posibility of this satan motivated deception.

Remember when God turned the lifeless rod of Moses into a snake? I'm sure that is also biblically out of place. . and it is satan motivated too!

KDK, WHY ARE YOU FIGHTING EVERYBODY? You said I should send you one of my statues so that you can break it. Haahaaaa. Even if you burn it, I will still note hate you, neither would it mean that you have killed a god. However, it is important to note that the Jews thought they were acting according to scripture teachings by silencing Jesus, and finally killing Him on the cross. They thought Jesus was blasphemous in so many strange things He said that they never saw in the scripture. Oh if only they knew they were killing the one who was at the beginning, who with the Father and Holy spirit gave them live.

You also have to beware because you can never know the ways of God. No one can explain what God meant when he asked the Isrealite to carve a snake and raise it in a stake (which can be term demonic), which they looked at and became healed. What about the story of Moses using a rod and turning it into a snake?

@goodguy,
Why do you guys keep using Moses and the snake as your cover for idolatry? Did God ask the children of the Isreal to worship the snake? The instruction he gave concerning the snake was explicit ; Numbers 21. HE told moses that if anyone of the children of Isreal was bitten by a snake, all he had to do was look at the snake (HE didn't say they should worship the snake) but just like the catholics are worshiping IDOLS in the name of honouring and remembering saints, the children of Isreal were doing same by burning Incense to the brass snake which moses had made, so God used king Hezekiah to bring an end to such nonsense; this can be found in 2kings 18:3-4 :-  " 3.He did what was right in the eyes of the LORD, just as his father David had done. 4. He removed the high places, smashed the sacred stones and cut down the Asherah poles. 4. He broke into pieces the bronze snake Moses had made, for up to that time the Israelites had been burning incense to it. (It was called Nehushtan.) . So tell me, what is the basis of your argument?

If you decide to be stubborn, it is upto you and please know that your blood is on your head as I have made efforts to tell you all that idolatry (in any form) is not allowed in the house of God.

@ elampiro,
Thank you very much. Atleast you are the first catholic to note that God asked them to look and not that He asked them to worship it. If you look at my previous post, you'd notice that the snake was destroyed because they idolised it just the way you guys are idolising angels and saints.
By the way, did you study the teachings of Jesus very well? If you did, you'd notice that every single thing that Jesus did had backing in the old testament which was why He was always saying He came to fulfill the scriptures. The Jews just didn't want to accept this truth but my brother, tell me, where is the backing for the idols you worship in the Roman Catholic Church? 

_{P.S,
The reason why it seems I am fighting you guys is that I made a promise to bring as many people as God permits to God even if the cost is my life}.

KDK, one thing you have to understand is that no catholic see those statues as gods or God. This is the diffrence. The statue of Jesus reminds us always of Jesus' death for us on the cross. It can only be termed as been worshipped if the statue stop us from having the knowledge that there is God in heaven. This is exactly the diffrence between the rod Moses used as a symbol to remind people of a Higher Being, God, from when it was leter destroyed because the people saw it as the god itself.

I have noticed you hate the catholic church so much. Can you tell us the church you attend?. If you are so proud of your type of christianity and your church, I challenge you to mention it now.

Goodnignt, I will read your post tomorrow.

KDK:

@goodguy,
Why do you guys keep using Moses and the snake as your cover for idolatry? Did God ask the children of the Isreal to worship the snake?

At one point, you said it was impossible and devilish for a statue to bleed, and when I pointed out an instance of something similar that happened in the Bible (which on a good day, you'd have considered as devilish and impossible also), you said I am justifying idolatory.  How many times do you want me to remind you that Catholics do not worship the statues? Stop confusing yourself man!

By the way, I am not a Catholic.

goodguy,
Can you please quote me where I told you that it was impossible for a statue to bleed? I guess you are confusing me with someone else. I remember I have stated a number of times that i don't care if the statue is sweating, peeing, etc,  (I don't want to keep repeating myself).    And please could you tell me the instance you pointed out? I think you've lost me here as I can't remember anywhere in my bible where a statue was bleeding or[i] perhaps you didn't express what you meant by your previous statement well.[/i] Anywhich way it is, kindly clarify things for me so that I wouldn't be confused as you said. 
And I stand to be corrected was the Brazen snake bleeding?  I really don't get the logic of your argument or the point you are trying to make by the post above. We are here to rub mind and not to prove that one can argue. When it comes 2 discussing issues that bother around the intrisic values of life, there is no winner or loser. It is left for the readers/listeners to decide their fate or the school of thot they'd follow. 

_{p.s,
I may be inactive for some time}

KDK:

goodguy,
Can you please quote me where I told you that it was impossible for a statue to bleed? I guess you are confusing me with someone else. I remember I have stated a number of times that i don't care if the statue is sweating, peeing, etc,  (I don't want to keep repeating myself).   

I probably am.  Sorry about that.

KDK:

And please could you tell me the instance you pointed out? I think you've lost me here as I can't remember anywhere in my bible where a statue was bleeding or[i] perhaps you didn't express what you meant by your previous statement well.[/i] Anywhich way it is, kindly clarify things for me so that I wouldn't be confused as you said. 

I was talking about the lifeless rod of Moses being turned into a snake.  If something similar happened in this present day, you KDK, would call it a devilish act, and that we should not pay attention to it.

KDK:

And I stand to be corrected was the Brazen snake bleeding?  I really don't get the logic of your argument or the point you are trying to make by the post above.

Pastor, I am not talking about any Brazen snake.  Elampiro made reference to that, not me.  The logic of my argument / the point I am trying to make by my post above is that, whenever something strange occurs (tending to be supernatural), we shouldn't be so quick to attribute it to the devil, as you've outrightly done here.

KDK:

We are here to rub mind and not to prove that one can argue. When it comes 2 discussing issues that bother around the intrisic values of life, there is no winner or loser. It is left for the readers/listeners to decide their fate or the school of thot they'd follow. 

Exactly.

Na wao

na ree wa !no be small wa hereoooooo

bledding statue that one is small have you seen a statue that changes its clothes

check out helbert macualy's statue near sabo it recently changed its suite from grey to white

;dimao ;d

@luridguy ,
You really crack me up; well, boyz will always be boyz.

the one for yaba de breakdance, and hood hop

eh! eh! dem no argue am again? where dem?i say where dem? ;DpleZzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz it's oK

@ iroro,
I still dey await my answer o o o.

hey! KDK long time, which of the answer?

@ Iroro,
How do you propose to take me to Warri and how do you stand as an interpreter for me when i come to france in November? I am tired of gesticulating in the name of communications, you know.

[color=#000099][/color]i must say d first thing i did was burst out laffing cos of d replies that were sent .anyway my name is ava from delta and it is my first time here so ,nice to meet u guys.

this is the question i keep asking catholics that say they dont worship these statues "why do u need these statues? would God not answer your prayers if u just close ur eyes and pray to Him?" and why do u need saints to help u pray to God? would God not hear u if u talk to him your self? and mary? what is really her essence? if for example the president asks me to come to him and ask him anything, i wont ask his mother for help, would i?