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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Opiosko: 6:33pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
goofyone:There is no doubt that some people are inately more gifted than others in different ways(aspects). The problem here is that the op is an atheist. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by haroldflexy(m): 7:58pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by dboss444: 8:55pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
Reason For Question: In time past, i have always argued that if i am handed just N1 Million, i will invest and become rich to the likes of Dangote, Otedola, A. A Rano, Wale Tinubu, Bello Osaghie, Pascal Dozie, Mike Adenuga but to mention a few. Today, am in that spot (have the necessary resources) which i have always dreamt to be in other to rise to the height of Dangote etc. and have found out its not easy brainstorming or finding that right idea or been a successful entrepreneur. Ymodulus I respect u a lot, but I must let us know somthing. The secret of success is individuality (in yourself and in your idea). There is no idea that is the right idea. I have read a lot of motivational books that teaches u on the process to be successful but trust me if u bliv nd pratice everything in that book, you will still remain @ dat level or only move up a little. Modern captalism the economy we pratice is all about greed. To be wealthy u must be greedy. Evry motivational book tells u only one side of the story. Have u read what wicked thomas edison did to tesla? Have u read what jd rockefeller did to america? our dangote runz d biggest monopoly in africa Remember there is a sir attached to richard branson name u knw what that means. All our role model billionaire r bloody greedy animals. It's nt bad to be like them but just have it @ d bck of your mind dat you'll hv to be a beast to become filthy rich. Brainstorming nd hardwork,smart work alone can't tk u 2 these billionaires height it's impossible. 10 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Opiosko: 9:14pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
dboss444:I hate it when people demonis success. Business is a competition and being competitive is not same as being greedy. I bet you will bless your stars if you find yourslf having monopoly of a lucrative business niche tomorrow. 4 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by dboss444: 9:23pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
@opiosko read what I said, I said it's not a bad thing to be like the billionaires, I'm also working on my ambition to be 1. See u @ d top. Modern capitalism promotes greed that just d truth. Why is china doing very well today the government is not captitalistic nd they watch out for individuals that want to thread that part 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Opiosko: 9:44pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
dboss444:I got ur point. What i wanted to point out is that you don't necessarily have to be greedy to make it big in a capitalist economy. 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jun 10, 2015 |
This is my take Some are born and some are made entreprenuership is a spirit some receive from birth the keys to it But some by training and struggle become it For instanve igbos are born entreprenues but the yoruba great farmer have now become more enternurally successful than the igbos becos of training, study, learning experience exposure and etc This is my view and I mean no disrespect to any tribe. emmyvet: 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 1:06am On Jun 11, 2015 |
Opiosko:I'm actually fairly an atheist, somewhat. And i don't see it the same way |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ymodulus: 7:54am On Jun 11, 2015 |
@Opiosko, Atheist can vary on views but when it comes to the fact of if there is a God. They are one. Also nice signature, you have got there. You got me smiling. Don't let Seun see that 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ymodulus: 8:01am On Jun 11, 2015 |
dboss444:I tend to agree and not agree on this. However I just don't know how to put my thoughts on this down. As its more of economics than the topic. Opiosko: I will agree with you. And if I have to cheap something in like dboss444 said earlier on, I think if you want to be so rich. You have to just get dirty (I do not mean dirty NY killing people or cultist act like Nigerians belief) I mean trying to seek undue favor or manipulate things in the economy By romancing those in power. But in all, I don't see it a bad thing. I think its one of those things necessary to get to the top. And we should not term it bad. To be monopolistic 2 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Marioplus(m): 12:12pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
goofyone:Every human being was loaded with the desire to make the best out of life by GOD just like GOD IS EVER CREATIVE If you bring that desire into action i.e doing it the way successful people did it You will definitely become successful not minding the time but if you come across an opportunity and you do not use it like successful people do, you will never become successful. Successful people are made not born!!! No matter your background, No matter the opportunity, if there is no "WILL, DETERMINATION AND PERSISTENCE" for SUCCESS cultivated and nurtured by you from "WITHIN" You will never be successful 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 12:30pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
Marioplus:perfect point. but you forgot we are not talking about successful people here, we are talking instead about successful entrepreneurs. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Nobody: 12:57pm On Jun 11, 2015 |
very interesting debate.................... but seriously are entrepreneurs made or born? my own take is entrepreneurs are made, as no matter how talented naturally you are as an entrepreneur without constant desire to improve and develop. you will soon fizzle out due fierce competition in the business word. 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Sibrah: 8:15am On Jun 12, 2015 |
Ymodulus:Business failure is mostly due to mismanagement. The most common one being the issue of gradually depleting the business capital to feed and shelter(SMEs are mostly guilty of this). Business management process has become scientific and evolved enough for entrepreneurs to foresee a wide range, if not all of, a dying business' symptom and re-adjust accordingly. A small business woman who sells provision of N100,000 and knows how to build cost of transportation into cost of goods, separate profit from capital, convert profit into capital consciously, read the market ( delve into fast moving goods around her and/or know what will become less profitable in the nearest future), know what her personal recurrent bill is, will likely grow her business than the woman who only know of adding extra cost for profit and knowing when 'market dey sell and no dey sell' alone. Most businesses follow same management principle but managers aren't conscious of the most businesses moves they make. Business management has become extremely scientific and the main reason entrepreneur fails is that of not knowing where and when to fit their assest, capital, liabilities, wages into. It becomes even harder when it is a very new idea and unprecedented idea, at least to the entrepreneurs. 1 Like |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 9janinja(m): 7:43am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Palazopro: dats y i luv dem,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,n others will say dey luv money |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Cwhyte(m): 8:08am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Well, i agree that entrepreneurs are born (u will hear of very young kids starting up business so early in life, they might not be very successfully rich probably because of their niche but they are entrepreneurs anyways) Well, i also agree that entrepreneurs are made. You can configure yourself to be whatever you wish. You just have to keep studying, hard working and focus. But I cannot take away the fact that all these born and made entrepreneurs are lucky. Successful business minded people take risks and opportunity. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 400billionman: 9:52pm On Jun 20, 2015 |
Ymodulus: Lmao... |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 400billionman: 10:08pm On Jun 20, 2015 |
GBAworld: You have acquired experience... |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Tmany(m): 9:16am On Jun 21, 2015 |
They are Made but there is that factor of LUCK there. |
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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by xfile: 9:50am On Jun 21, 2015 |
Every one is an entrepreneur and entrepreneurship is all about taking risk. Now my reasons.. 1: LIFE in itself is a risk. For example, back then In 2008 , I was involved in a ghastly motor accident on my way back from school. Precisely along lagos ibadan express road. But I am still , till tommorow ever Greatfull to God that i am alive to to tell this story. Now, if a pastor or herbalist had told me before the journey that I would b involved in such, I would have either done any of both A: postponed the journey B: or take the risk and travel notwithstanding... But an ENTERPRENEUR would take the risk irrespective of the challenges ahead. Now the SUMMARY A BORN ENTERPRENEUR is a business man UNCONCIOUSLY, because he sees it as a way of life . Either because he was born into such family or it was either a natural calling. A MADE ENTERPRENEUR is a CONCIOUS business man who is so scared about financial insecurity in the future. And now decides to create both defensive and offensive mechanism to escape such irrespective of the fact that there is a very slim chance if winning. 2 Likes |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 400billionman: 9:53am On Jun 21, 2015 |
Tmany: To answer the poster's question, entrepreneurs are born, some are made and others lucky. In addition, the richest entrepreneurs are born. For the lucky ones, they soon lose their fortune if they do not acquire sound business experience while being lucky. Now, what baffles the poster about the N1m wish is, how can I convert my N1m into N1bn via rapid business growth? Or how do I combine the factors of capital, labour and market demand to become a billionaire ? My answer is, check out most billionaires, they don't do only one type of business. The business which gives them their breakthrough is often not their fist venture. Eg. Dangote, Richard Branson, Adenuga I am four years in business now, I am doing my 4th start up. And all my businesses earn something either daily, weekly, monthly or annually. That means, I will never lack cash. The key is being insatiable and feeling you have never started. Finally, i will advice, " Set new goals everyday ".. 3 Likes |
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Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by A7(m): 11:56pm On Jul 04, 2015 |
Ymodulus Do you buy from amazon.com? Would you help me purchase a $3.54 book there ? I have a relative diagnosed with bladder cancer, though discharged from the hospital(been to about 5 diff hospitals) he still live with a foley catheter and that's heartbreaking. I read a testimony of a woman who beat stage 4 cancer, did some internet digging and found her wikipedia profile, and a website to her name solely for her publications on children books, she's a writer. This makes me think she is not a scammer. Even more interesting is she wrote a whole book on how she goes about fighting and winning the unfortunate illness. That book is on Amazon.com, I wanna read it, we want it. Unfortunately, at this moment I don't have any account for e-transaction, that's the reason I call on you hoping you might act as that medium making it possible for us to have that book. Looking forward to your response/consideration. Stay blessed. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ymodulus: 2:54am On Jul 05, 2015 |
A7: Please contact Justi4Jesuit |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by A7(m): 12:09pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Ymodulus:Do you have his email, bbm, whatsapp or something? https://www.nairaland.com/Justi4Jesuit is giving 404 error |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by A7(m): 5:48pm On Jul 05, 2015 |
Ymodulus Justi4jesuit contact please. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by A7(m): 2:16pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
I forgot to add, the book is in pdf format and just 823kb. So, there is no shipping wahala. The routine will just be buying and downloading. Please reconsider dude. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by Ymodulus: 6:48pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
A7:Justi4jesu |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by 812clothings(m): 11:59pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Entrepreneur(s) being born or made?nobody has a clear answer(s) to this because anybody supporting any has his/her own reasons from perspective which may might differ from others'. Someone who was born into a family of entrepreneurs and was put through,his family MADE/BORN him/her an entrepreneur.(Both verbs are suitable) Someone who grew up and became an entrepreneur due to ENVIRONMENT or CIRCUMSTANCE(S) is made an entrepreneur because the bolded words effected him/her one way or the other. This is an argument which will/might not end. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by A7(m): 7:55pm On Jul 07, 2015 |
Ymodulus:Thanks. Will contact him right away. |
Re: Entrepreneurs: Born Or Made Or Lucky ? -lets Discuss by golddeejay(m): 10:49am On Jul 23, 2015 |
Enterpreneurs are made and not born. That been said, i beleive some people have the natural traits of good enterpreneurs like boldness, smelling oppurtunities etc. Just like some people have the gift of teaching. It doesnt mean these qualities that make a successful enterpreneur cannot be learn, we may be be surprised that most of dis big enterpreneur lack this qualities initially, but they are forced to learn (by their enviroments or situations). Some became enterpreneurs very young, giving us the impression that they are born that way. But when you look at their backgrounds, upbringings and other factors, then u understand how and why they master that the art at a tender age. Some entrepreneurs try something ones and they hit gold, some try several times before one comes out good. I wont call it luck, that is just life. I see a young boy (or selling) selling stuffs maybe due to poverty. The boy may not realise that situation or life is teaching him something. That boy is learning the art of selling which is one of the 'criteria' (cant recollect the right word nw) even without him knowing. Wat dat one need is knowledge, boldness, determination to apply and be creative with what life is teaching him. All of our actions, talking, reading, playing computer games, walking even me typing was learnt one way or the other. That is why it is easier to become an enterpreneur by the following the actions, models, principles etc of the successful ones through reading abt them, personal mentoring etc 1 Like |
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