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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by coogar: 10:02pm On Jun 11, 2015
cococandy:

Ask coogar for example of he will be willing to go back to live permanently in Nigeria grin
With free ticket o.

See what he says.

look at you - i stay in nigeria. grin

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by cococandy(f): 10:03pm On Jun 11, 2015
coogar:


look at you - i stay in nigeria. grin
I know.

The same way I stay in London.

Via nairaland
Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by shaybebaby(f): 10:05pm On Jun 11, 2015
lolaredvelvet:




Listen to your gossip buddy's (cococandy) advice and talk about the topic at hand.. why are y'all still discussing me .. na so I annoy you reach? grin
Chick, there isn't that much about you that is worthy of discussion-zilch. I believe the answer to the topic is each to their own. People change their names for less significant reasons than marriage and on a whim. Maybe they don't like the names they were given at birth, maybe they changed religions and wanted their names to reflect their belief or maybe they just like the sound of the new name they are adopting. Hence a man taking his spouse's name ain't a biggie, he could just plain like the name Saldana. Don't make him less of a man and if it did, he never really was a real one to begin with if all it takes is a name to emasculate him. Capito?

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by KanwuliaJara: 10:14pm On Jun 11, 2015
Only "wonders" in BUSHITO JUNGLES of aFREEEEAAAAka!!!!!

Where individual choices are NEVER respected or tolerated.

Especially, with SHARIA CHRISTIANS!!!! grin

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 10:15pm On Jun 11, 2015
shaybebaby:

Chick, there isn't that much about you that is worthy of discussion-zilch. I believe the answer to the topic is each to their own. People change their names for less significant reasons than marriage and on a whim. Maybe they don't like the names they were given at birth, maybe they changed religions and wanted their names to reflect their belief or maybe they just like the sound of the new name they are adopting. Hence a man taking his spouse's name ain't a biggie, he could just plain like the name Saldana. Don't make him less of a man and if it did, he never really was a real one to begin with if all it takes is a name to emasculate him. Capito?


Ok then quit quoting me and discussing me then. Jeez.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by coogar: 10:17pm On Jun 11, 2015
cococandy:

I know.
The same way I stay in London.
Via nairaland

you stay in london?
have you met the queen yet?
Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by bukatyne(f): 10:30pm On Jun 11, 2015
What's up with the west again?

Is the 'West' forcing Nigerian men to pick their wives' surnames

@OP:

Each to their own.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by babygirlfl: 11:07pm On Jun 11, 2015
shaybebaby:

Chick, there isn't that much about you that is worthy of discussion-zilch. I believe the answer to the topic is each to their own. People change their names for less significant reasons than marriage and on a whim. Maybe they don't like the names they were given at birth, maybe they changed religions and wanted their names to reflect their belief or maybe they just like the sound of the new name they are adopting. Hence a man taking his spouse's name ain't a biggie, he could just plain like the name Saldana. Don't make him less of a man and if it did, he never really was a real one to begin with if all it takes is a name to emasculate him. Capito?

My madam on point. The problem with our people is always when it has to do with a woman. I know Nigerian men who have changed their name because they just don't like the sound of it. If the same man were to adopt the wife's name, it will be seen as an abomination. Some family adopt their fathers name as last name which means that after another generation, the name is lost anyway.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by buggaboo: 11:34pm On Jun 11, 2015
sad Looks like the law of diminishing return is slowly setting in for men.
Very soon women will start marrying multiple husbands.
And then one day there'll be a female equivalent of King Solomon with a harem of men at her service.
Even then, women still won't be satisfied undecided

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 11:32am On Jun 12, 2015
Moana:
so you think its very logical to blame a decision made by a man on an ideology that promotes equal rights for women. undecided only on NL cry

...surely it was at least a joint decision? wink At least your sister answered you;
Shollypopzz:
Yay for feminism! Though matriarchy isn't a new concept, I am going to attribute the man's decision to feminism.

I wonder why men are so threatened by male feminists. (That is a lie! I know why grin grin grin grin)

SMH @ the women condemning this man's decision...... I want you females to take a minute to see how fvcked up that is.


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 11:37am On Jun 12, 2015
crackhaus:
I was answering the OP's question about if I (the reader) would adopt a wife's surname.
I get that. Just a general lament.

crackhaus:
Feminism hasn't triumphed yet, not when there are still guys like me living on earth...I can assure you of this cool
Feminism can't ultimately triumph - not least because women themselves prefer patriarchy cool!

crackhaus:
However I don't think feminism made him (them) adopt a woman's surname, they just pvssy-whipped... and the thing about being pvssy-whipped is that it doesn't last forever, they'll come back to their senses soon enough.
Feminist ideology - or rather it's advance - means men are being socialised according to it's dictates. Hence the "whipping". They are doing well for the moment sha, with lots of betas, white knights and all ranks of "save-a-skets" working tirelessly on their behalf.


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 11:42am On Jun 12, 2015
FrancisTony:
Even bible opined that submission should be reciprocated before saying women should submit to their husband.
FrancisTony, please don't willfully misunderstand the bible. Or reinterprete it to garner likes grin!

If submission is in al instances reciprocal, why is it actually needed? And why would there be any need for a qualifier of "wives submittring to husbands" immediately afterwards?

I think we should add workouts to your rehab - drop, and give me 50 press-ups. We need to work on your concave chest and weedy arms - as well as your bible knowledge. Building a "whole man" grin


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 11:48am On Jun 12, 2015
Stillfire:
Buhahahaha. I hope the bats in the cave kick you out of their natural habitat. tongue grin grin
Love it Stilly grin.

But you realise that when "feminism" finally screws everything up, you'll join us in the cave - and resume your natural role as we rebuild. Although I was talking tongue-in-cheek, as I don't think it wil get that far before womens natural instinct to police other women and protect patriarchy will re-assert itself cool.


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 12:54pm On Jun 12, 2015
TV01:

FrancisTony, please don't willfully misunderstand the bible. Or reinterprete it to garner likes grin!
Okay

TV01:

If submission is in al instances reciprocal, why is it actually needed? And why would there be any need for a qualifier of "wives submittring to husbands" immediately afterwards?
I don't know; My bible opined so.

Ephesians 5:20
20. giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.

TV01:

I think we should add workouts to your rehab - drop, and give me 50 press-ups. We need to work on your concave chest and weedy arms - as well as your bible knowledge. Building a "whole man" grin


TV
I have an incomparable avalanche of bible knowledge - it's not a man thing but human.

Anyone that wants to keep fit should workout irregardless of gender. It's not a man thing.

Save me your last enery.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Stillfire: 1:57pm On Jun 12, 2015
TV01:

Love it Stilly grin.

But you realise that when "feminism" finally screws everything up, you'll join us in the cave - and resume your natural role as we rebuild. Although I was talking tongue-in-cheek, as I don;t think it wil get that far before[b] womens natural instinct to police other women and protect patriarchy will re-assert itself [/b] cool.


TV

Not when I'm alive. cool cool cool cool cool cool cool grin
Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Tolatutu: 2:35pm On Jun 12, 2015
babygirlfl:


My madam on point. The problem with our people is always when it has to do with a woman. I know Nigerian men who have changed their name because they just don't like the sound of it. If the same man were to adopt the wife's name, it will be seen as an abomination. Some family adopt their fathers name as last name which means that after another generation, the name is lost anyway.



Very true, they are afraid of women gaining more power but it's inevitable

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 2:47pm On Jun 12, 2015
I asked you this;
TV01:
If submission is in al instances reciprocal, why is it actually needed? And why would there be any need for a qualifier of "wives submittring to husbands" immediately afterwards?

You responded thus;
FrancisTony:

I don't know; My bible opined so.

Ephesians 5:20
20. giving thanks always for all things to God the Father in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ.
21 submitting to one another in the fear of God.
The bible nowhere - and certainly not the verse you quoted - states that submission is in all instances reciprocal. Indeed, it can't. It is where "submission is demanded", such as for husband and wife.

If it did, elders would submit to deacons, or parents to children, or christian masters to servants. Do you see how absurd your reading is now?

Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Do the rulers/governemnt now submit to the citizens? No, as the verse following clearly shows;
Romans 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

The thrust behind Ephesians 5:21 is more about the attitude of submission - in the fear of God - demanded by those you are to obey/submit to. So in as much as a wife submits to her husband, there is a way to do it, not grudgingly or with an attitude.

FrancisTony:
I have an incomparable avalanche of bible knowledge - it's not a man thing but human.
So no, the bible opined nada, and it seems like the "avalanche is on top of you and not within - someone dig this person out grin

So I repeat,
TV01:
FrancisTony, please don't willfully misunderstand the bible. Or reinterprete it to garner likes grin!
For you edification - https://www.nairaland.com/2351801/feminism-joke-nigeriafor-now/6#34377924


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by 2CatWoman: 3:13pm On Jun 12, 2015
lolaredvelvet:



Slow down there stranger. I am not confused. Just letting you know that the statement you made stinks of ignorance and fallacy that's all. Accept it and move on. You can't say one should accept all of the bad that comes with westernization just because 2catwoman has an inferiority complex! believing the western world and civilization is superior to traditional and moral values. Try and be a lil more objective.

Show me how I have an inferiority complex. Actually don't bother.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by crackhaus: 3:19pm On Jun 12, 2015
TV01:

I think we should add workouts to your rehab - drop, and give me 50 press-ups. We need to work on your concave chest and weedy arms - as well as your bible knowledge. Building a "whole man" grin


TV

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 3:21pm On Jun 12, 2015
TV01:
I asked you this;

You responded thus;

The bible nowhere - and certainly not the verse you quoted - states that submission is in all instances reciprocal. Indeed, it can't. It is where "submission is demanded", such as for husband and wife.

If it did, elders would submit to deacons, or parents to children, or christian masters to servants. Do you see how absurd your reading is now?
You are wrong!
There's nowhere bible opined that children should submit to their parents.

Exodus 20:12
Honour your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

Bibe simply wrote that Children should honour their mother and father.
Keyword - honour, that's some kind of adulation not how Wife was commanded to submit to her husband.
The only thing I adhere is that, Man is the head of family.
Submission should be reciprocated afterall, even bible said;

Ephesians 15:31
"For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.
How can their be unequality between a flesh? huh? That's akin to saying God the father, God the son and God the holyspirit aren't equal just because they are different.


TV01:
Romans 13:1 Let every soul be subject to the governing authorities. For there is no authority except from God, and the authorities that exist are appointed by God.

Do the rulers/governemnt now submit to the citizens?
Yes they do!
In the sense that a good/righteous ruler contacts his subjects before taking a decision.

TV01:
No, as the verse following clearly shows;
Romans 13:2 Therefore whoever resists the authority resists the ordinance of God, and those who resist will bring judgment on themselves.

The thrust behind Ephesians 5:21 is more about the attitude of submission - in the fear of God - demanded by those you are to obey/submit to. So in as much as a wife submits to her husband, there is a way to do it, not grudgingly or with an attitude.
What of, "submitting to one another" in that verse.
Pray tell, what "one another" means.

TV01:
So no, the bible opined nada, and it seems like the "avalanche is on top of you and not within - someone dig this person out grin
Just like St. Francis of Assissi, it's within. cool cool

TV01:
So I repeat,

For you edification - https://www.nairaland.com/2351801/feminism-joke-nigeriafor-now/6#34377924


TV

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Fkforyou(m): 3:32pm On Jun 12, 2015
I wont try this no matter how civilised I might claim to be.....
Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by TV01(m): 4:01pm On Jun 12, 2015
FrancisTony:

You are wrong!
There's nowhere bible opined that children should submit to their parents.

Exodus 20:12
Honour your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.
You are confused FT; Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right - does one not submit as an act of obedience

FrancisTony:
Bibe simply wrote that Children should honour their mother and father.
Keyword - honour , that's some kind of adulation not how Wife was commanded to submit to her husband.
The only thing I adhere is that, Man is the head of family .
Submission should be reciprocated afterall, even bible said;
I've shown your first assertion to be wrong
Your second is illogical - how can a wife submit to her husband if they are both at once submitting to each other
Your third begs the question "what does it mean to be head" - |I've heard some funny ones for that interpretation grin

FrancisTony:
Ephesians 15:31
"For this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.
How can their be unequality between a flesh? huh? That's akin to saying God the father, God the son and God the holyspirit aren't equal just because they are different.
You are totally lost here - the fact that men and women are equal has nothing to do with this - divine order demands men lead homes and women & children submit. Simples.

Even The Lord humbled himself to submit to the Father - although they are equal tongue
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.

FrancisTony:
Yes they do!
In the sense that a good/righteous ruler contacts his subjects before taking a decision.
And if he does not? Do they cease to be the ruler? You are straining - that's why I suggested an exercise regime for you grin

FrancisTony:

What of, "submitting to one another" in that verse.
Pray tell, what "one another" means.
Does submitting to one another mean everyone submits to everyone else in every instance in all relationships. Can't you see how absurd you sound and how obtuse you are being?


TV

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 5:24pm On Jun 12, 2015
TV01:

You are confused FT; Ephesians 6:1 Children, obey your parents in the Lord, for this is right - does one not submit as an act of obedience
I know you are married.
Okay, are you saying that whenever you obey your wife, then it automatically mean submission? This submission ish is overhyped, aswear.
Sometimes, when my uncles, aunts or elder/junior cousins come around and send me to get something for them, I obey - does it mean i'm submitting to them

TV01:
I've shown your first assertion to be wrong
Your second is illogical - how can a wife submit to her husband if they are both at once submitting to each other
Your third begs the question "what does it mean to be head" - |I've heard some funny ones for that interpretation grin
Head means the "pillar" who gives an assertion for something to be done.
As the head, husband brings out an/a opinion/matter and seeks the wife advice, before proceeding not rushing to do it because she's an inconsequential subordinate.
- To me, a woman becomes a slave or dormant dumbkopf when she swallows whatever her husband says hook-line and sinker because he's a man even though they are all senile.
TV01:
You are totally lost here - the fact that men and women are equal has nothing to do with this - divine order demands men lead homes and women & children submit. Simples.

Even The Lord humbled himself to submit to the Father - although they are equal tongue
Philippians 2:5 Let this mind be in you which was also in Christ Jesus, 6 who, being in the form of God, did not consider it robbery to be equal with God, 7 but made Himself of no reputation, taking the form of a bondservant, and coming in the likeness of men.
Have you forgotten the dual nature of Christ?
He was both God and Man on earth.
His flesh ate, praye
d, slept etc

Divinity of Christ
John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said to Him. "My Lord and my God!".

His flesh wasn't equal to God because God never die(s).

TV01:
And if he does not? Do they cease to be the ruler? You are straining - that's why I suggested an exercise regime for you grin
That's why I wrote, "righteous/good leaders

TV01:
Does submitting to one another mean everyone submits to everyone else in every instance in all relationships. Can't you see how absurd you sound and how obtuse you are being?


TV
I refuse to insult you Tv01 cool

Like they say, charity begins at home.
Husband and Wife should respect each other equally as bible commanded.

By the way, do you care to explain what submission means in your own context apart from respect?

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by snakebeat: 6:45pm On Jun 12, 2015
FrancisTony:

I know you are married.
Okay, are you saying that whenever you obey your wife, then it automatically mean submission? This submission ish is overhyped, aswear.
Sometimes, when my uncles, aunts or elder/junior cousins come around and send me to get something for them, I obey - does it mean i'm submitting to them


Head means the "pillar" who gives an assertion for something to be done.
As the head, husband brings out an/a opinion/matter and seeks the wife advice, before proceeding not rushing to do it because she's an inconsequential subordinate.
- To me, a woman becomes a slave or dormant dumbkopf when she swallows whatever her husband says hook-line and sinker because he's a man even though they are all senile.

Have you forgotten the dual nature of Christ?
He was both God and Man on earth.
His flesh ate, praye
d, slept etc

Divinity of Christ
John 20:28
And Thomas answered and said to Him. "My Lord and my God!".

His flesh wasn't equal to God because God never die(s).


That's why I wrote, "righteous/good leaders


I refuse to insult you Tv01 cool

Like they say, charity begins at home.
Husband and Wife should respect each other equally as bible commanded.

By the way, do you care to explain what submission means in your own context apart from respect?
My friend what is ur problem? Did u offend a woman in d past & perhaps u think defending their cause may serve as an atonement for ur wrong? Honestly the way u argue & defend women with passion & enthusiasm even when the issue is clear is quite suspicious, I don't really know how to explain this, ur comments reeks off hatred for men.

Did a man offend u? U don't even mind going to the extent of misinterpreting the bible, all in a bid to buttress ur point. if u're really a man, pls visit google, find out how men act. It's an aberration for a man to constantly exhibit female traits, i'm afraid ur comments doesn't reflects manly traits at all, & if u're a woman, pls be brave & proud enough to disclose ur gender....

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Ngokafor(f): 6:54pm On Jun 12, 2015
snakebeat:

My friend what is ur problem? Did u offend a woman in d past & perhaps u think defending their cause may serve as an atonement for ur wrong? Honestly the way u argue & defend women with passion & enthusiasm even when the issue is clear is quite suspicious, I don't really know how to explain this, ur comments reeks off hatred for men.

Did a man offend u? U don't even mind going to the extent of misinterpreting the bible, all in a bid to buttress ur point. if u're really a man, pls visit google, find out how men act. It's an aberration for a man to constantly exhibit female traits, i'm afraid ur comments doesn't reflects manly traits at all, & if u're a woman, pls be brave & proud enough to disclose ur gender....





....sharrappp!!!

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 6:57pm On Jun 12, 2015
snakebeat:

My friend what is ur problem? Did u offend a woman in d past & perhaps u think defending their cause may serve as an atonement for ur wrong? Honestly the way u argue & defend women with passion & enthusiasm even when the issue is clear is quite suspicious, I don't really know how to explain this, ur comments reeks off hatred for men.

Did a man offend u? U don't even mind going to the extent of misinterpreting the bible, all in a bid to buttress ur point. if u're really a man, pls visit google, find out how men act. It's an aberration for a man to constantly exhibit female traits, i'm afraid ur comments doesn't reflects manly traits at all, & if u're a woman, pls be brave & proud enough to disclose ur gender....
Did I offend a woman? No
Do I hate men? No, for what reason?
Do I exhibit women trait? No
Do I really care about how men act? No
What trait do I exhibit? Mine

All I care about is, how I act.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by Nobody: 6:59pm On Jun 12, 2015
Ngokafor:

....shatappp!!!
Hypocrisy is when they hail a female(dude? lesbian?) supporting them and attack a male not supporting them.

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by mrwonlasewonie: 7:06pm On Jun 12, 2015
grin grin
TV01:

I'm afraid it has/is angry



No, it's Ben Martin (nee Coghill) - husband of Rowan - one of a new breed of men, who are taking their wife's surname.

The last of his name, forsaker of the bloodline, the kinship, ties, the culture and heritage of his fathers. A sign of the feminised, limp-wristed, males that these days pass as progressive and open-minded men - presumably a genital swap will be forthcoming

I's all over Cracky cry - feminism has triumphed. Lets find a cave somewhere, gather the troops and live out our time reminiscing about the good old days - when men were men and women made sure dinner was on the table tongue!


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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by mrwonlasewonie: 7:08pm On Jun 12, 2015
FrancisTony:

Hypocrisy is when they hail a female(dude? lesbian?) supporting them and attack a male not supporting them.
grin grin
Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by mrwonlasewonie: 7:09pm On Jun 12, 2015
FrancisTony:

Did I offend a woman? No
Do I hate men? No, for what reason?
Do I exhibit women trait? No
Do I really care about how men act? No
What trait do I exhibit? Mine

All I care about is, how I act.
Gbam!


This is a real man

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by snakebeat: 7:09pm On Jun 12, 2015
Ngokafor:






....shatappp!!!
Ur moniker didn't indicate ur gender.
If u're a man, then u're not being fair to that brother, but if u're a woman, never mind...

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Re: WONDERS: Man Adopted Wife's SURNAME After Marriage. by mrwonlasewonie: 7:13pm On Jun 12, 2015
grin



See this one o grin



Wonders will never end. So because he's not of your school of thought means he's not a man. grin


E be like say you don chop efo riro mixed with diced roasted snake and octopus cooked by a man. Clown! grin
snakebeat:

My friend what is ur problem? Did u offend a woman in d past & perhaps u think defending their cause may serve as an atonement for ur wrong? Honestly the way u argue & defend women with passion & enthusiasm even when the issue is clear is quite suspicious, I don't really know how to explain this, ur comments reeks off hatred for men.

Did a man offend u? U don't even mind going to the extent of misinterpreting the bible, all in a bid to buttress ur point. if u're really a man, pls visit google, find out how men act. It's an aberration for a man to constantly exhibit female traits, i'm afraid ur comments doesn't reflects manly traits at all, & if u're a woman, pls be brave & proud enough to disclose ur gender....

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