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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 2:54pm On Jun 16, 2015
illuminaty:
....boss,it mite nt go a long way but it will surely help in 1 way or d other.think of it,those frying akara can save up 2 buy cooking gas for their bizness,with the epileptic power in this country,5k can go a long way in buying fuel 2 run your bizness....omo menh,5k can come in handy for some people....just go out n sample the opinion of people

I fully understand, but rather than dash them N5,000 give them up to 100k or thereabout to establish their businesses proper. Do you know that if you're giving 5k monthly, you'll easily spend it but if you're giving a bulk money of 60k, you can start something with it?
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Standing5(m): 2:55pm On Jun 16, 2015
Good idea.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 2:56pm On Jun 16, 2015
@ OP, you stole my idea sad
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Johniyke2flex(m): 2:57pm On Jun 16, 2015
calebo101:
What's the difference between what the OP suggested and YOU WIN?

No difference my dear. Absolutely same idea with YOUWIN. Just dat the process was said to be non-transparent and curruption laden. Also, majority of Nigerians weren't so keen on following up with that program because they were too lazy to come up with good business plan.

I think hypocrisy is when you did not support Jonathan's YOUWIN program and you are saying yea yea to OP's idea.

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by lutheran(m): 2:59pm On Jun 16, 2015
something better than what you analyze here as been written and submitted to the the previous government ( OBJ and GEJ), lots of money was invested on it by federal govt but @ the end, it's all resulted to scam, leave baba alone and let him implement this in the best way he think he can. God help us
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


Its not as straightforward as I said it, there are procedures, these business plans are submitted digitally to consultants from participating organizations like banks in Nigeria. Furthermore, the system is designed to remove every private credential of the applicant before it reaches the consultant for review, so the person reviewing it doesn't know who you are or where you come from, its even scrambled among the reviewers who do not know one another so they can't even control which one comes to them, plus other security measures. Its a standard procedure that works
Hmmmm
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 2:59pm On Jun 16, 2015
On a serious note. Like I keep telling my friends, give me the presidency and I would put this country on the same trajectory that made Singapore a great nation.
There are so many easy route to transform this country.
It's not difficult.

Leadership is all about vision and vision alone.
A person with no vision has no business in government.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by gostartit(m): 3:00pm On Jun 16, 2015
I think a better option is to solve the problem of electricity and you will see jobs springing up in millions for unemployed youths.

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by illuminaty(m): 3:00pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


I fully understand, but rather than dash them N5,000 give them up to 100k or thereabout to establish their businesses proper. Do you know that if you're giving 5k monthly, you'll easily spend it but if you're giving a bulk money of 60k, you can start something with it?
I agree with u shaaa...just that this is now a country where anytin you see,u beta grab cos governent can change their thought towards their citizen at anytime....nuff sed,i still think u have a point
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by 400billionman: 3:02pm On Jun 16, 2015
Poster, very sound analysis.

I tot you would falter on figures as most people usually do.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 3:02pm On Jun 16, 2015
calebo101:
What's the difference between what the OP suggested and YOU WIN?

Youwin is a grant, which encourages waste, someome who wants to even start a barbing salon would be asking for 10 million and when he gets it, he'll go buy a porsche car and waste money, would he do that if it were a loan? This is a loan that must be paid back. This project also implements security standards used in developed countries, furthermore, it involves pre-qualification processes, like examination or interview, Youwin can be written by anyone for anyone who doesn't know Jack about business, lots of differences

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by beatricewebb: 3:06pm On Jun 16, 2015
Some pple always think dey know morethan the govt,dont forget that this is not clueless pdp govt,let the govt fulfill his promise so that it can have something to boast of at the end of its tenure,perhaps if european countries like canada can pay its citizen and still do other developmental project why cant nigeria give a try,dont forget we re seeking change in all ramification.

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:06pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


Youwin is a grant, which encourages waste, someome who wants to even start a barbing salon would be asking for 10 million and when he gets it, he'll go buy a porsche car and waste money, would he do that if it were a loan? This is a loan that must be paid back. This project also implements security standards used in developed countries, furthermore, it involves pre-qualification processes, like examination or interview, Youwin can be written by anyone for anyone who doesn't know Jack about business, lots of differences

This is what makes it feasible;
Linking the loan to BVN.

No matter what happens, except the individual stops banking in Nigeria, government would always recover their money.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Standing5(m): 3:12pm On Jun 16, 2015
uchenageme:
I don't understand the difference between this and the Youwin program of the past administration. The op is obviously not aware of this.
its same concept as YouWin. Though YouWin doesn't appear to place much emphasis on number of Employees tied to businesses.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by emmanial: 3:13pm On Jun 16, 2015
I disagree completely from dis view of urs. If it's workable or practicable or sustainable there is no problem in doing it.
Even US is giving unemployment benefits to their graduates and social security to people that re doing nothing.
So there is nothing new in this policy.

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:15pm On Jun 16, 2015
Such program should not be totally interest free!
There should be an interest payment but should be very small like 2% max.

The need for little interest is to transfer the operation to known organisations like banks. This will make it more likely to succeed than allowing government employees to run the program. The 2% interest is for the bank that runs it but the principle is government financed.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 3:17pm On Jun 16, 2015
uchenageme:
I don't understand the difference between this and the Youwin program of the past administration. The op is obviously not aware of this.

I've explained the difference to many people on this thread. Youwin was a grant meant for 1,500 people monthly which encourages waste because money dashed is rarely utilized judiciously. This is a loan scheme meant to empower thousands of Nigerians seeking loans but cannot afford collateral and high interest of banks. It has security for government to get its money back, Youwin didn't have. This project includes procedures which ensures that only the beneficiaries qualify and benefit from the project, in Youwin anyone can submit a business plan for another person who doesn't know Jack about business, infact people submitted multiple businesses with different emails and wasted chances for others, lots of differences though the ideas are very similar
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:18pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


Youwin is a grant, which encourages waste, someome who wants to even start a barbing salon would be asking for 10 million and when he gets it, he'll go buy a porsche car and waste money, would he do that if it were a loan? This is a loan that must be paid back. This project also implements security standards used in developed countries, furthermore, it involves pre-qualification processes, like examination or interview, Youwin can be written by anyone for anyone who doesn't know Jack about business, lots of differences

Honestly it's same thing as YOU WIN. just a few tweaks here and there doesn't make it any different.

As time goes by you will discover Buhari will use same strategies as Jonathan because for a nation like Nigeria doling out stipends doesn't cut it. We need a multiplier effect which GEJ had properly planned out.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by 400billionman: 3:20pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


Government would need to establish qualifications to benefit from this project, example submitting a business plan for review and approval by the government, this business plan will include a plan to employ at least 8 to 10 people within 6 months of startup. The programme would also include a mandatory training at a participating organization, example SMEDAN, after you are shortlisted to benefit from this programme. There would be other standards too.

Another option would be writing a qualification exam that tests some of your personal and cognitive abilities to select the best among many, then undergoing business training by selected beneficiaries.

All these for just N5,000.

This goes to show how bereft of ideas our current leadership is. And expect the implementation to be marred in irregularities. Where civil servants, unemployed graduates, area boys and some business owners will still register as unemployed. I don't see the figures after collation to be less that 50million people. Your 20million assumption is an unsafe one. Let's keep watching another failed plan before implementation.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:22pm On Jun 16, 2015
joseph1832:
Yes its true, you made a good point here bro. Just like SURE-P.
Sure-P is rubbish!
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 3:23pm On Jun 16, 2015
joseph1832:
What good will it do for the unemployed youth if at the end of the day he use more than half of his profit to buy fuel in other to run his business?.

My take on this issue is simple, "give the Nigerian youth uninterrupted power supply and watch him make money".

Without steady power supply, the Nigerian youth can never be free.

You know this is more like a summary. In the real business plan, you have to include a section for self- power generation using solar panels and inverters and deep cycle batteries, you cannot be running generators for a startup business like this to be sustainable, that's why up to N10 million is made available so you can generate your own sustainable electricity. This is even more business for renewable energy suppliers to grow their businesses too and even encourage local renewal energy manufacturers
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by robosky02(m): 3:24pm On Jun 16, 2015
barcanista:
Sure-P is rubbish!

this one sure pass SURE-P ?


Its not the policy that worries naija its implementation
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by ayobase(m): 3:25pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:
If the Federal Government intends paying the poorest unemployed Nigerians N5,000 monthly, my personal estimate is that it will be budgetting for about 20 million Nigerians, amounting to about N100 billion naira monthly.

I completely disagree with this policy. It is my belief that paying N5,000 monthly to millions of unemployed persons would amount to a waste of government resources in the short and long term.

N5,000 monthly makes absolutely no sense to our economy of today. It cannot even sustain a Nigerian youth who is even under the roof of someone else, for a month based on today's cost of living.

My Suggestion:

Government should rather invest this money into the economy in a way that will create a job for a youth and pay him up to 30,000 to N50,000 monthly. How?

Let's do some analysis here:

N100 billion naira can fund up to 10,000 businesses monthly with about N10 million naira each, who will employ about 10 people each, thereby creating up to 100,000 or 150,000 jobs monthly. This makes it possible for most Nigerian graduates to focus on starting their personal businesses and creating Full Time and Part Time jobs, instead of endlessly looking for jobs themselves. This also ensures that beneficiaries of this project get to pay tax to government, thereby increasing government's internally generated revenue. How much would you tax someone who earns N5,000 monthly when you can invest in a business that pays that person up to N50,000 monthly and then tax them?

Security For The money

In order for graduates to benefit from the business empowerment project, government needs some form of security, and they already have it, Yes, the Bank Verification Number (BVN). This ensures that your identity is known and you don't run to another bank and deposit the money to enjoy a personal life rather than use it for what it was meant for.

Just like the Social Security Number is used to track everything you do in the US, our Government, with time and policy implemenation, would be able to use our National Identity Number to quickly create a central identification system where your identity is tied to your Bank accounts and everything you do including renting a house, getting a job, doing business, contesting public office, obtaining an international passport, enrolling in college etc. Usually when you want to do any of the above mentioned, a background check is conducted with your ID Number to check your financial history as well as any violation or criminal history because all these records are usually domiciled with security agencies.

What Are The Benefits of This Project?

1. With this business empowerment programme, government will be able to stimulate and grow the economy through the private sector, this means, more employment generation through private sector businesses than directly by government

2. Government will be able to fulfill its promise to Nigerians to create millions of jobs annually

3. Government would be able to greatly boost its internally Generated Revenue through taxes both from businesses and employed persons

4. More businesses in Nigeria will survive because when more people have purchasing power, businesses can thrive and more will spring up

5. Boost Technology and Agriculture. When more businesses in Agric and Technology are empowered, then other sectors in Nigeria will grow because e-commerce will become a vital part of our development while agriculture will feed the nation and encourage export

6. Resourceful Education. When this policy is started, our Higher Institutions would be able to adjust their curricula to include practical ways of turning your course into a resourceful business venture, including how to develop a good business plan for your intending business
Organizations like SMEDAN who offer entrepreneurship courses will also follow suite and might offer certification courses which may be used as a requirement for benefitting from this project.

This Money Should Not Be A Grant

Yes, The money should be a Repayable Non-Interest Ioan. Only serious people who believe they can succeed should be given this money. We have people who are born entrepreneurs, they are not suited for the 9 to 5pm schedules, all they need is education and application of business principles to succeed and create employment for others. We also have confident entrepreneurs who believe they will succeed even with an interest loan from a bank, but unfortunately they do not have collateral, they are the very ones at the top list of who deserve this funding.

This to me would discourage emphasis on Higher Education Certificate for job hunting, and encourage Resourceful Education which is good for our economic development

God Bless us all.

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I have thought of this myself, but it MIGHT never work out.

A bird in hand is better than the ones being aimed at in th the sky.

Let them start paying this 5K while we await the jobs creation, funding SMEs and the likes.

We have the money!

It is hightime we had our share of the National cake.
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USA is doing it!
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jun 16, 2015
This one is dead on arrival!
robosky02:


this one sure pass SURE-P ?
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Omotayor123(f): 3:26pm On Jun 16, 2015
Nice Nice Nice.....



.Buhari must hear thisgrin
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by joseph1832(m): 3:29pm On Jun 16, 2015
greggles:


You know this is more like a summary. In the real business plan, you have to include a section for self- power generation using solar panels and inverters and deep cycle batteries, you cannot be running generators for a startup business like this to be sustainable, that's why up to N10 million is made available so you can generate your own sustainable electricity. This is even more business for renewable energy suppliers to grow their businesses too and even encourage local renewal energy manufacturers
At the embolden, I really don't know which type of deep set battery can power a welding machine for 12 hours straight using solar power. Such machines are even power by diesel generators not even petrol generators.

I honestly don't feel solar power can provide readily unlimited power supply to power a good business, especially when that business run on heavy machinery!.

This is just my opinion.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by robosky02(m): 3:29pm On Jun 16, 2015
barcanista:
This one is dead on arrival!


ok tell them. its not in the grammer, culculation and pamutation.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by 989900: 3:34pm On Jun 16, 2015
Bad Idea . . . especially with the state of our economy and identity issues.

Add the funds to funds for electricity, provide very low interest loans -- it creates a large ripple effect.
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by joseph1832(m): 3:35pm On Jun 16, 2015
barcanista:
Sure-P is rubbish!
Oh so you know?!.

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Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by Nobody: 3:40pm On Jun 16, 2015
And with all these running cost coupled with harsh economic environment you expect him to make progress? One of our problems in this country is that we don't wholistically look at plans before taking position.
greggles:


You know this is more like a summary. In the real business plan, you have to include a section for self- power generation using solar panels and inverters and deep cycle batteries, you cannot be running generators for a startup business like this to be sustainable, that's why up to N10 million is made available so you can generate your own sustainable electricity. This is even more business for renewable energy suppliers to grow their businesses too and even encourage local renewal energy manufacturers
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 3:44pm On Jun 16, 2015
joseph1832:
At the embolden, I really don't know which type of deep set battery can power a welding machine for 12 hours straight using solar power. Such machines are even power by diesel generators not even petrol generators.

I honestly don't feel solar power can provide readily unlimited power supply to power a good business, especially when that business run on heavy machinery!.

This is just my opinion.

What size of generator powers a welding machine? There are solar panel and inverter combinations that can handle that, though they might be more expensive and go beyond the funding cap of this programme. Unfortunately, you will agree with me that even the best of programmes cannot cater for all the problems 100%, however, this is a very laudable start that will bring excellent results if all the components are properly implemented
Re: A Better Alternative To N5,000 Monthly Allowance For Unemployed Nigerians by greggles: 3:47pm On Jun 16, 2015
barcanista:
And with all these running cost coupled with harsh economic environment you expect him to make progress? One of our problems in this country is that we don't wholistically look at plans before taking position.

Self power generation works for my business, I don't use electricity except to charge my batteries, but even with solar panels, bye to electricity with a 25 year warranty. It works, its not expensive as a business solution as perceived by some

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