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Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by mohince(m): 5:00am On Jun 20, 2015 |
At least nine people were shot dead at a church in the US state of South Carolina on Wednesday by a man identified by the FBI as 21-year-old Dylann Roof. Roof, who was arrested just before noon local time on Thursday, reportedly let one woman survive so she could tell others what happened. He is said to have told her: “I have to do it. You rape our women and you’re taking over our country. And you have to go.” Dylan Roof, who was apprehended by police on Thursday and is expected in court Friday. As data from Mother Jones shows, the majority of mass shootings in the US are committed by white men - but they are labelled as “lone wolves” rather than “terrorists”, even when they are found to hold racist or misogynistic world views.“ ABC just referred to the #CharlestonShooting as a tragedy. Nah. A car crash is a tragedy. Shooting up people in a church is terrorism. — whitney (@whitnaay_70) June 18, 2015“ They're always quiet, softly spoken & acting alone when they're white. Otherwise terrorism/extremism/entire religions to blame #Charleston — James Rhodes (@JRhodesPianist) June 18, 2015 So what constitutes what? Definitions of terrorism are wide- ranging. One of the only core definitions of a terrorist act is that it is designed to strike fear in a large group of people. With hate crimes, that is not necessarily true. Defining “terror” has a long history. According to Vox the first federal anti-terrorism law ever passed in the US was to stamp out acts of violence against freed black people by the Ku Klux Klan back in 1871. But a 2014 study from the University of Albany in New York which looked at data from the 1970s to the present day defined terrorism as an “upward crime”, where perpetrators are usually of a lower social standing that the targeted group. By contrast, they found that hate crimes usually involve perpetrators who belong to the majority or most powerful groups in society, who then inflict violence on minority or less powerful victims. The US government has traditionally used four criteria in determining what counts as an act of terror: •Premeditation •Political motivation •Aimed at civilians •Carried out by sub-national groups, rather than the state or army A sticking point is if Roof is found guilty of acting on white supremacist ideals as a motive, does he count as a terrorist even if he wasn’t a member of an organised group? The FBI and police in South Carolina have defined the shooting as a hate crime. Whether you agree with the official classification or not, the one thing we know for sure is that it struck fear into the hearts of many. As Richard Cohen, the President of the Southern Poverty Law Center said in a statement on Thursday, the massacre at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church is an “obvious hate crime”: “ Since 2000, we’ve seen an increase in the number of hate groups in our country — groups that vilify others on the basis of characteristics such as race or ethnicity… The increase has been driven by a backlash to the country’s increasing racial diversity, an increase symbolised, for many, by the presence of an African American in the White House. Since 9/11, our country has been fixated on the threat of Jihadi terrorism. But the horrific tragedy at the Emmanuel AME reminds us that the threat of homegrown domestic terrorism is very real. „ •Richard Cohen, President of the Southern Poverty Law Center www.i100.independent.co.uk/article/what-do-we-mean-when-we-say-hate-crime-and-terrorism--WygXUSzzqbl cc: lalasticala
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Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by vedaxcool(m): 5:38am On Jun 20, 2015 |
It is terrorism, he motives are political and his tactics towards achieving his motives is to frighten and terrorize black people. The truth is that the west by its definition of terrorism, suffers terrorism more in the hand of supremacists, maxists, seccionists and organized criminal gangs than from religion inspired terrorism. Though the attention seems to be paid more to the latter than the former. 1 Like |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by moufan: 5:45am On Jun 20, 2015 |
it's called hypocrisy, an offence committed by a muslim or a black is labelled terrorism while the same offence committed by a white is labelled a tragedy or they say the white fellow is'disturbed'. 3 Likes |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by tucky200(m): 5:47am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Foolish americans be decieving themselves All of em are terrorists in disguise 1 Like |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by Nobody: 5:59am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Whether he was acting alone o or backed by the white supremacist, all I know is that WHITE AMERICANS are terrorist to the BLACK AMERICANS. White Eediots, Racists, Terrorist, etc Blacks in America should be more serious more than ever before with the civil rights movement, let them be more agile like never before. Oh God! Missing Martin Luther King Jr and Malcolm X of blessed memories. |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by gists: 6:26am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Wow!! This thread is over an hour old and there are just 4 contributors. Not only are the west hypocritically labelling similar acts as terror if the guys has any thing islamic connected to him or if he is black, we on our own part also contribute to labelling ourselves as terrorists. Just imagine how many contributors would have commented within this time period if the guy happen to have a name like Uche or Adewale. Folks from both sides of the river Niger would have been filling google servers with term derogatory terms. E.g Igbos are carni***als, Igbos are kidn***pers, Igbos are crim***als, Yorubas are cow***rds, Yorubas are tra***ors, Yorubas are sl***ves etc 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by efilefun(m): 6:27am On Jun 20, 2015 |
America is evil, if such had been done by a black or a Muslim the news would have been everywhere screaming terrorists and their retaliation would be to hit a country who knows nothing about the thrash happening. You all don't be surprised if this guy is being released. " all they need to say is, he got a mental issue" that's all. Saw a pic of the guy being arrested and I saw him putting on a bulletproof vest, while in a video on Facebook some blacks were arrested in a party and heads were been smashed on the floor just to make some stupid arrest PURE RACISM... 1 Like
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Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by IsraeliAIRFORCE: 6:38am On Jun 20, 2015 |
The name doesn't matter but the punishment. They both should carry maximum capital punishment. But if they both carry maximum capital punishment, what will become of the intent to commit such a crime as typified in statements made by Oba of Lagos, Akiolu, Radio Biafra, Nnamdi Kalu and Prof. Ahmed Gumi? |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by efilefun(m): 6:40am On Jun 20, 2015 |
gists:Most people on NL are either kids or they just believe their brain doesn't need to be at work when commenting on here, some people would only open the thread to see the name or religion of the accused. Such a pity this same set of people see themselves as the leaders of tomorrow 1 Like |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by phyllosilicate(m): 6:41am On Jun 20, 2015 |
THE DISEASE OR CONDITION CALLED 'DISTURBED' IS A RACIST, IT ONLY AFFECT THE WHITES. 1 Like |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by omenka(m): 7:17am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Op thanks for raising this. It was exactly what my friend and I discussed at a point in the club last night when images of the incident were flashed on the tv screen. It is nothing but religious profiling. Had a muslim carried out this act, ain't no chance it hell it wouldn't be tagged "terrorism". In this case they call it a "hate crime" or any other fancy names. The only person who came close to calling it what it truly is is the NWACP president who called it "racial terrorism". The word has been misapplied so much one is tempted to think the definition has been changed in the dictionary to apply to only acts committed by people of a particular faith. White westerners are only deceiving themselves. Another case in point is them breathing down our necks to handover our leaders for prosecution at the ICC when men such as Bush and Blair are walking freely commanding respect across the world, as though the court was established to handle only cases with African origin. Smh. 4 Likes 2 Shares |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by Nobody: 7:29am On Jun 20, 2015 |
In fela's voice... I just dey looku and laughu... Welcome to uncle Sam enterprise of hypocrisy.. mainstream media how market??. |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by Volksfuhrer(m): 7:31am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Did anybody read the above article, where terrorism has just been defined as an "upward crime"? Why insert question-begging epithets into the definition of terrorism? Terrorism has nothing to do with what class its perpetrators belong to as long as its intent is to instill terror in its target group. A white guy goes into a church, kills 9 people: they call that "hate crime"; but if an Arab-American moslem does that, he is a terrorist! Wonderful! |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by gists: 9:21am On Jun 20, 2015 |
This reminds me of Anders Breivik's terror attack in Oslo, Norway. The spontaneous reaction of the western media was Islamic "terrorist" was responsible. But when he was caught and turned out to be a white christian, the term "terrorist" was quickly and conveniently replaced with "mad man", "deranged", "lone wolf" etc. How come as we witnessed in the Charlie Hebdo's case, there have not been a global outcry and global procession for those murdered by Dylann Roof? Western hypocrisy at its peak. Sad thing is we join them in their hypocrisy in labelling ourselves. When the politicians want to manipulate us, they make it convenient for us to see and refer to the other group as Biafra, Ooduanistan and Arewamabad etc. Are all these not rude and stup!d racial profiling too? 2 Likes |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by Nobody: 9:29am On Jun 20, 2015 |
Terrorism= ISLAM Hate Crime= White Racist Crime |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by mohince(m): 3:05pm On Jun 20, 2015 |
omenka:Yeah.... Does white fools still underate us, we aint animal more and more often, Islam has been associated with terrorism and violence due to the actions of a few extreme individuals who’ve taken it upon themselves to do the most heinous crimes in the name of Islam. Tragic events such as the attack on the twin towers in New York, the bombings of Bali, Madrid and London are assumed to be justified by Islam in the minds of some people. This idea has been fueled further by many media channels which defame Islam by portraying these bombers as ‘Islamists’ or ‘Jihadists’, as though they were sanctioned by Islam, or had any legitimate spokemenship on behalf of Muslims. The actions of a few fanatical individuals who happen to have Muslim names or ascribe themselves to the Muslim faith should not be a yardstick by which Islam is judged. For the same reason, that one would not do justice to Christianity if it where perceived as sanctioning the genocide of the Native Americans, the atrocities of world war II or the bombings of the IRA. To understand Islam’s stance on terrorism, one must refer to its original sources, the Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him,which are explicit in their prohibition of any form of injustice including that of wanton violence which seeks to instill fear, injury or death to civilians. The Quran turns our attention to the high value of human life, whether it is Muslim or Non-Muslim and makes it absolutely forbidden to take an innocent life unjustly. The gravity of such a crime is equated, in the Quran, with the killing of all humanity. 1 Like |
Re: Charleston Shooting: What Do We Mean When We Say "Hate Crime" And "Terrorism" by vedaxcool(m): 5:53pm On Jun 20, 2015 |
gists: Omo it is a real shame. |
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