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My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Nobody: 9:58pm On Jun 26, 2015
The United States Supreme Court has spoken with a very divided voice on something only the Supreme Being can do - redefine marriage. I will not acquiesce to an imperial court any more than the the Founders of the United States of America acquiesced to an imperial British monarch. We must resist and reject judicial tyranny, not retreat. A so called most advanced democracy in the world trumps the voice of 30 states and jettisoned the Judio-Christian foundation it was built on.

This ruling is not about marriage equality, it's about marriage redefinition. This irrational, unconstitutional rejection of the expressed will of the people in over 30 states will prove to be one of the court's most disastrous decisions, and they have had many. The only outcome worse than this flawed, failed decision would be for the President and Congress, two co-equal branches of government, to surrender in the face of this out-of-control act of unconstitutional, judicial tyranny.

The United States Supreme Court can no more repeal the laws of nature and nature's God on marriage than it can the laws of gravity. Under the U.S Constitution, the court cannot write a law, even though some cowardly politicians will wave the white flag and accept it without realizing that they are failing their sworn duty to reject abuses from the court. If accepted by Congress and this President Barack Obama, this decision will be a serious blow to religious liberty, which is the heart of the First Amendment of the United States, that is embraced by our dear country Nigeria.

Finally, I believe that we are at a point of no return in the world. It is indeed very close to the end.

-CramJones

CC: Lalasticlala ishilove

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by kinibigdeal(m): 9:59pm On Jun 26, 2015
Ok
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by ionsman: 10:00pm On Jun 26, 2015
Every time your take......When will you give? grin

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by weirdtee: 10:04pm On Jun 26, 2015
So Shiit holes are now legalised for male reproduction
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by StarMogul(m): 10:07pm On Jun 26, 2015
Bros can u sense it cool......Yes d end....
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Ishilove: 10:08pm On Jun 26, 2015
Hear hear. We are truly in the end times.
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by KingTom(m): 10:10pm On Jun 26, 2015
This is really serious, I sincerely hope we Africans don't emulate them on this.
Homosexuality is abnormal, and I still maintain this. Marriage is an institution of MAN and WOMAN not MAN/MAN or WOMAN/WOMAN




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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Minet16(m): 10:23pm On Jun 26, 2015
My heart aches because such news is coming from the strongest empire and the most influencial nation on earth. This however is going to force some other nations who cannot but just have to survive by reason of maybe trading or one relationship or the other, where they make money from to maintain a stable econmy. I also pity those nations looking up to them, because whatever is legalised in the USA is automatically legalised in those nations.

I can't understand why people can't diffrenciate between madness and infatuation, this is absolute madness. Ah Ah Obama including you? you joined this mad trend? I used to see you as a mentor but no way.


How can i carry my FELLOW male to my parents saying "DADDY, MUMMY, i have found the love of my life"


No matter how possesed i am, i can't be mad to that extent.


pls Nigeria, lets rise, stand and shout with one voice, as we say no to

#SAMESEXMARRIAGE



#@MINET16
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Macelliot(m): 10:27pm On Jun 26, 2015
The Human race is an endangered specie, the Human race is heading to an extinction.
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Macelliot(m): 10:28pm On Jun 26, 2015
Macelliot:
The Human race is an endangered specie, the Human race is heading to an extinction.
This is exactly what the "Forces of Evil" wants....
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:40pm On Jun 26, 2015
all of u here ranting trash..i guess the western world dont give a fuk about what u think... So re u gonna stay here and rant all day?..

Last time i checked...luxembourg p m married his swedish gay lover, no ish happened, what makes u think ur rants and bruhaha will change any dime?


For all those shouting end tim,, world war came and gone, world didnt end....ebola came..notin happened..what makes u think something going happen?

This is what u get when u re drunk in ur religion.

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by GoldCircle: 10:46pm On Jun 26, 2015
krattoss:
all of u here ranting trash..i guess the western world dont give a fuk about what u think... So re u gonna stay here and rant all day?..

Last time i checked...luxembourg p m married his swedish gay lover, no ish happened, what makes u think ur rants and bruhaha will change any dime?


For all those shouting end tim,, world war came and gone, world didnt end....ebola came..notin happened..what makes u think something going happen?

This is what u get when u re drunk in ur religion.
You must have your empty skull checked soon and the cotton wool in it replaced very quickly. Nut case!
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Nobody: 10:51pm On Jun 26, 2015
GoldCircle:
You must have your empty skull checked soon and the cotton wool in it replaced very quickly. Nut case!
ur re just a psycho........too dumb for my liking

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by mrvitalis(m): 10:59pm On Jun 26, 2015
Due I don't support gays but the truth is
1) the world won't end because of gay marriage
2) homosexuality is not unnatural because it exists in every species on earth
3)this is what the world have turn to and we will have to accept it just like when the world accepted blacks were equal to whites
4) with people like Atiku., ibb,danjuma, oji uzokalu, uti, and wiskid, it is only a matter of time before they start fighting for there right
For me my mind is already set. Let them live let me live but try come near me I kill u

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Nobody: 11:14pm On Jun 26, 2015
Good For People Like Micheal Scolfield,Sylar of Heroes, Jamal of Empire, Sheldon of Big bang theory,Barca of Spartacus, and the rest of them..

Its none of my business.God will not make me leave food and start chasing bone !!
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by lunaticfringe: 11:56pm On Jun 26, 2015
I like the word tyranny that the Op used in his write up. The foundation of that country USA was established by their founding fathers in the doctrines of the Christian faith whereby the decree from Jehovah to Adam In the garden to multiply the earth comes into play with a female called Eve.

I know most folks will think that the might of Jehovah is a thing of myth but we know whats up. You made a covenant and you go against the rules, then be ready to face the repercussions of that betrayal.

I'm sorry to say that the curse of Nebucadnezzer shall be their cross to bear...
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:12am On Jun 27, 2015
The
lunaticfringe:
I like the word tyranny that the Op used in his write up. The foundation of that country USA was established by their founding fathers in the doctrines of the Christian faith whereby the decree from Jehovah to Adam In the garden to multiply the earth comes into play with a female called Eve.

I know most folks will think that the might of Jehovah is a thing of myth but we know whats up. You made a covenant and you go against the rules, then be ready to face the repercussions of that betrayal.

I'm sorry to say that the curse of Nebucadnezzer shall be their cross to bear...

Lies . America was created as a secular state and God only appeared once in the constitution.
Let the founding fathers and the constitution do the talking.
A few Christian fundamentalists attempt to convince us to return to the Christianity of early America, yet according to the historian, Robert T. Handy, “No more than 10 percent– probably less– of Americans in 1800 were members of congregations.”

The Founding Fathers, also, rarely practiced Christian orthodoxy. Although they supported the free exercise of any religion, they understood the dangers of religion. Most of them believed in deism and attended Freemasonry lodges. According to John J. Robinson, “Freemasonry had been a powerful force for religious freedom.” Freemasons took seriously the principle that men should worship according to their own conscience. Masonry welcomed anyone from any religion or non-religion, as long as they believed in a Supreme Being. Washington, Franklin, Hancock, Hamilton, Lafayette, and many others accepted Freemasonry.
The Constitution reflects our founders views of a secular government, protecting the freedom of any belief or unbelief. The historian, Robert Middlekauff, observed, “the idea that the Constitution expressed a moral view seems absurd. There were no genuine evangelicals in the Convention, and there were no heated declarations of Christian piety.”
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:14am On Jun 27, 2015
George Washington

Much of the myth of Washington’s alleged Christianity came from Mason Weems influential book, “Life of Washington.” The story of the cherry tree comes from this book and it has no historical basis. Weems, a Christian minister portrayed Washington as a devout Christian, yet Washington’s own diaries show that he rarely attended Church.

Washington revealed almost nothing to indicate his spiritual frame of mind, hardly a mark of a devout Christian. In his thousands of letters, the name of Jesus Christ never appears. He rarely spoke about his religion, but his Freemasonry experience points to a belief in deism. Washington’s initiation occurred at the Fredericksburg Lodge on 4 November 1752, later becoming a Master mason in 1799, and remained a freemason until he died.

To the United Baptist Churches in Virginia in May, 1789, Washington said that every man “ought to be protected in worshipping the Deity according to the dictates of his own conscience.”

After Washington’s death, Dr. Abercrombie, a friend of his, replied to a Dr. Wilson, who had interrogated him about Washington’s religion replied, “Sir, Washington was a Deist.”
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:15am On Jun 27, 2015
Thomas Jefferson

Even most Christians do not consider Jefferson a Christian. In many of his letters, he denounced the superstitions of Christianity. He did not believe in spiritual souls, angels or godly miracles. Although Jefferson did admire the morality of Jesus, Jefferson did not think him divine, nor did he believe in the Trinity or the miracles of Jesus. In a letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787, he wrote, “Question with boldness even the existence of a god.”

Jefferson believed in materialism, reason, and science. He never admitted to any religion but his own. In a letter to Ezra Stiles Ely, 25 June 1819, he wrote, “You say you are a Calvinist. I am not. I am of a sect by myself, as far as I know.”
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:16am On Jun 27, 2015
John Adams

Adams, a Unitarian, flatly denied the doctrine of eternal damnation. In a letter to Thomas Jefferson, he wrote:

“I almost shudder at the thought of alluding to the most fatal example of the abuses of grief which the history of mankind has preserved — the Cross. Consider what calamities that engine of grief has produced!”

In his letter to Samuel Miller, 8 July 1820, Adams admitted his unbelief of Protestant Calvinism: “I must acknowledge that I cannot class myself under that denomination.”

In his, “A Defence of the Constitutions of Government of the United States of America” [1787-1788], John Adams wrote:

“The United States of America have exhibited, perhaps, the first example of governments erected on the simple principles of nature; and if men are now sufficiently enlightened to disabuse themselves of artifice, imposture, hypocrisy, and superstition, they will consider this event as an era in their history. Although the detail of the formation of the American governments is at present little known or regarded either in Europe or in America, it may hereafter become an object of curiosity. It will never be pretended that any persons employed in that service had interviews with the gods, or were in any degree under the influence of Heaven, more than those at work upon ships or houses, or laboring in merchandise or agriculture; it will forever be acknowledged that these governments were contrived merely by the use of reason and the senses.

“. . . Thirteen governments [of the original states] thus founded on the natural authority of the people alone, without a pretence of miracle or mystery, and which are destined to spread over the northern part of that whole quarter of the globe, are a great point gained in favor of the rights of mankind.”
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Rose2014: 12:16am On Jun 27, 2015
ionsman:
Every time your take......When will you give? grin
Lmao cheesy
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:17am On Jun 27, 2015
James Madison

Called the father of the Constitution, Madison had no conventional sense of Christianity. In 1785, Madison wrote in his Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments:

“During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution.”

“What influence, in fact, have ecclesiastical establishments had on society? In some instances they have been seen to erect a spiritual tyranny on the ruins of the civil authority; on many instances they have been seen upholding the thrones of political tyranny; in no instance have they been the guardians of the liberties of the people. Rulers who wish to subvert the public liberty may have found an established clergy convenient auxiliaries. A just government, instituted to secure and perpetuate it, needs them not.”
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by lunaticfringe: 12:17am On Jun 27, 2015
oduastates:

Lies . America was created as a secular state and God only appeared once in the constitution.

Sorry I ain't gonna argue with you... I pray seriously for the admirers of this former citadel of beauty called USA...
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:18am On Jun 27, 2015
Benjamin Franklin

Although Franklin received religious training, his nature forced him to rebel against the irrational tenets of his parents Christianity. His Autobiography revels his skepticism, “My parents had given me betimes religions impressions, and I received from my infancy a pious education in the principles of Calvinism. But scarcely was I arrived at fifteen years of age, when, after having doubted in turn of different tenets, according as I found them combated in the different books that I read, I began to doubt of Revelation itself.

“. . . Some books against Deism fell into my hands. . . It happened that they wrought an effect on my quite contrary to what was intended by them; for the arguments of the Deists, which were quoted to be refuted, appeared to me much stronger than the refutations; in short, I soon became a through Deist.”

In an essay on “Toleration,” Franklin wrote:

“If we look back into history for the character of the present sects in Christianity, we shall find few that have not in their turns been persecutors, and complainers of persecution. The primitive Christians thought persecution extremely wrong in the Pagans, but practiced it on one another. The first Protestants of the Church of England blamed persecution in the Romish church, but practiced it upon the Puritans. These found it wrong in the Bishops, but fell into the same practice themselves both here [England] and in New England.”

Dr. Priestley, an intimate friend of Franklin, wrote of him:

“It is much to be lamented that a man of Franklin’s general good character and great influence should have been an unbeliever in Christianity, and also have done as much as he did to make others unbelievers” (Priestley’s Autobiography)
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:18am On Jun 27, 2015
Thomas Paine

This freethinker and author of several books, influenced more early Americans than any other writer. Although he held Deist beliefs, he wrote in his famous The Age of Reason:

“I do not believe in the creed professed by the Jewish church, by the Roman church, by the Greek church, by the Protestant church, nor by any church that I know of. My own mind is my church. “

“Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifiying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity. “
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:19am On Jun 27, 2015
The U.S. Constitution

The most convincing evidence that our government did not ground itself upon Christianity comes from the very document that defines it– the United States Constitution.

If indeed our Framers had aimed to found a Christian republic, it would seem highly unlikely that they would have forgotten to leave out their Christian intentions in the Supreme law of the land. In fact, nowhere in the Constitution do we have a single mention of Christianity, God, Jesus, or any Supreme Being. There occurs only two references to religion and they both use exclusionary wording. The 1st Amendment’s says, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion. . .” and in Article VI, Section 3, “. . . no religious test shall ever be required as a qualification to any office or public trust under the United States.”

Thomas Jefferson interpreted the 1st Amendment in his famous letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in January 1, 1802:

“I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should ‘make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,’ thus building a wall of separation between church and State.”

Some Religious activists try to extricate the concept of separation between church and State by claiming that those words do not occur in the Constitution. Indeed they do not, but neither does it exactly say “freedom of religion,” yet the First Amendment implies both.
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by oduastates: 12:26am On Jun 27, 2015
lunaticfringe:


Sorry I ain't gonna argue with you... I pray seriously for the admirers of this former citadel of beauty called USA...

Who wants to argue with you. I deal in science ,facts and history .
Definitely not in superstition and mystery.
Even that religion na okrika ,with many of the stories borrowed from the ancient Egyptians God Osiris .


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLUFY6aMlcw
Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Wildrage: 12:29am On Jun 27, 2015
A poorly plagiarized lamentation by the OP. I am more concerned about the calibre of people being considered as our next set of ministers. We dine with adulterers, sleep with prostitutes, eulogize corrupt politicians , worship depraved men of God who live large from proceeds of tithes and offerings extorted from their largely poor but seriously indoctrinated congregation and with our false sense of moral superiority think we can condemn the union of two consenting adults in other climes

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Re: My Take On The Legalization Of Gay Marriage In America - Cramjones by Nobody: 12:29am On Jun 27, 2015
Ishilove:
Hear hear. We are truly in the end times.

Ishilove the apocalypticist
really? people have been saying that since 1900. ✘

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