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Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by italo: 8:30am On Jul 06, 2015 |
chubbyswit: You dodged my question, Sir. You who read and understand the Bible, who study deeply with the help of the Holy Spirit, teach us: When the early Christians argued, what did the use to settle the dispute in Acts 15? Who did the believe? The Bible or Pope Peter and Bishops James, Andrew, John etc? Read Acts 15 before you answer. I know your pastor will not read that chapter in your congregation |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by beautycrush24(f): 8:30am On Jul 06, 2015 |
chubbyswit: And d bible was written by God? Do u have proof of that? ![]() The Bible was also written by men who have also sinned. That being said, i say your question is very invalid ![]() 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by charlsecy(m): 8:32am On Jul 06, 2015 |
wadoowadoo:How about the "We Fly To Your Patronage" prayer's despise not our petitions in our necessities, but deliver us always from all dangers, O glorious and blessed Virgin? Can you show me how that isn't worship? I am willing to learn? 1 Like 2 Shares |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by beautycrush24(f): 8:37am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Other denominations been dissing d catholic church since 150BC. Y'all shouldn't waste your time answering their questions. If you answer them, they'll still come back here next week and ask d same questions. Tallesty u should leave d catholic church if you dont believe its doctrines. There's no need to fool anyone. Least of all, yourself. They condemn our honoring Mary yet they worship their pastors and they're here quoting bible passages. Its a total waste of time arguing with them. P.S: quote me all you want, a single reply wont be forced out of me. Peace! 3 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by italo: 8:37am On Jul 06, 2015 |
chubbyswit: Tell us what the Catholic Church added, what they removed, when they did this... And tell us the Bible that existed before they did those. Let us see who is a blind follower. |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by italo: 8:43am On Jul 06, 2015 |
charlsecy:When you fly to your pastor's patronage and he delivers you from danger, (by praying for you), are you worshiping him? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 8:59am On Jul 06, 2015 |
They go to their pastors day in day out for "deliverance" but when we pray to the blessed mother of God for the same "deliverance" it becomes an issue to them. This is the one woman that the bible said that "ALL GENERATIONS SHALL CALL HER BLESSED"! Anyone remember the wedding at Canaan when she interceded? even though Jesus said it was not yet time but he still performed the miracle. yet people that call themselves Christians feel that the words of their pastors has more authority than the word of God? 5 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by AngelJennifer: 9:11am On Jul 06, 2015 |
witnezHD:pastor worshippers 4 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by 0micheal735: 9:53am On Jul 06, 2015 |
At the Annunciation, Mary identifies herself
simply and profoundly as the Handmaid of the
Lord. She has no other aim in life but to live
according to God’s will. Here in the Magnificat she
explains in joy and song the same theme: she is
totally wrapped up in God. 3 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by xplicity1(m): 10:13am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Tallesty1: |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by MilesMolesey: 10:43am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Tallesty1 and his "others", I don't know what you people gain in putting God's mother in that position of a mere woman. 3 Likes
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Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by DennisEche(m): 10:46am On Jul 06, 2015 |
bamuffy:i reserve my coment till i know religion |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by DennisEche(m): 10:46am On Jul 06, 2015 |
bamuffy:i reserve my coment till i know your religion |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Maryalex1805(f): 10:49am On Jul 06, 2015 |
witnezHD:Dahs blasphemy...mind wah u say |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Akpurokwe: 10:58am On Jul 06, 2015 |
An2elect2:between mary mother jesus and the wife of your general overseer who do you respect or honour most? 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by 0micheal735: 10:59am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Honour is been given to our mother mary....*s the mother of our Lord Jesus Christ who came into the world to die for our sins.....she is just a shot cut to the Father in Heaven...... |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Jayten(m): 11:02am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Who do u think u are to judge another person's faith or belief. Worship God the way u want or worship Mary if u choose to,one thing for sure on d judgement day all man to himself. I truly don't believe in church doctrines of bn a christian or theological teachings of christianity, I believe and follow one principle which is the teachings of THE HOLY BIBLE "NEW TESTAMENT"to be precise,tho u have to read the old testament to understand the teachings of the new,I try as much as I can to follow the laws,tho I'm a sinner but that is no excuse to continue in sinning.You all are guilty of judging one anoda,leave that to God and that person's conscience. So u can worship or believe wat u want,God is the one to judge. #Youcanhate if u want to 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by 0micheal735: 11:03am On Jul 06, 2015 |
MilesMolesey: Why do we call the name of the Holy Spirit when praying |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by manchester1: 11:52am On Jul 06, 2015 |
Ichiato:I hope she is still a virgin |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 12:30pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
manchester1:Well last time I checked no one has even claimed to break her hymen so? |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Alexmoses007: 1:18pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
chubbyswit: Thanks you have made my work easier. You definitely would not equate the golden calf with Ark of the Covenant (but kindly let me know if you do) neither would the Isrealites equate the Ark with God (but that did not mean they did not venerate it). If you understand these differences then you understand the veneration given to sacred images inthe Catholic Church 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by VcStunner(m): 1:46pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
BERNIMOORE:I have already made my point.... I A̶̲̥̅♏ a catholic but I do have issues with certain practices just as other learneths who hav refused to worship in ya church may also have an issue with her doctrines. We all wanna get to the father right and Jesus said no one does dat except through him.. Its just dat simple. Believe in Christ and u ar safe dats it 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Nobody: 2:39pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
VcStunner:Bro, what exactly makes you a Catholic? Can I boldly claim to be a Christian andvyet have issues with certain practices of christ? Is not enough to label yourself a Catholic to actually be one. You have be in line with her practices. 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by honourhim: 2:55pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
swtgrl4eva: You are not praying to the mother of Jesus because she is dead and her body and bone decayed like any other person that died in her time. She is not hearing you. Obviosly you are praying to silly Mary, a mermaid. Again Jesus did not ever say that he turned water into wine because of Mary. And if you think that Mary's case was the only miracle that Jesus had reason not to do but went on to do it then means u are deceiving yourself. Rrmember the woman of Canaan whom Jesus told that it is not okay to give the children's food to dogs? Was she the mother of Jesus? Yet Jesus answered her request afterwards. What moved Jesus to turn water into wine was Mary's faith. It was the same faith that moved him in the case of the woman of Canaan and in the cases of all the people he healed and he is still healing. Dont be deceived. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Tallesty1(m): 3:07pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
MilesMolesey:I didn't say she's a mere woman. My point is that she's not God and should not be worshiped 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by MizMyColi(f): 3:09pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
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Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Syncan(m): 3:14pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
VcStunner: Pay no heed to him. He should go and find the use of "worship" at the time of Alphonsus de ligouri. Better still he should find out how many places worship is divided into. In British English, even in the derivation of the English word “worship” we see that it was not exclusively used of God or Jesus, but was used to designate someone worth the respect they received. In the bible, the word shachah in hebrew or "proskuneo" means "to kiss the hand, bow down before, show obeisance, to worship." You can Imagine how many times it appeared in the bible, but each time it carries a different meaning, depending on who it is given to. Few Examples. Genesis 23:7 Then Abraham rose and bowed down [shachah] before the people of the land, the Hittites. Genesis 33:3He himself [Jacob] went on ahead and bowed down [shachah] to the ground seven times as he approached his brother. Matthew 18:26 “The servant fell on his knees [proskuneo] before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’ Yet God said: Exodus.23:24 Thou shalt not bow down [shachah]to their gods, nor serve them, Even the prophet Nathan went before the king and worshiped him, yet no one accuses him of Idolatory, why, because they know he does not mean to give him what is due God. 1 Kings 1:23 And they told the king, “Nathan the prophet is here.” So he went before the king and bowed [shachah] with his face to the ground. It is only our English bible translation that now uses bow down, bend knees, pay obeisance etc, just to distinguish the worship due God. Yet each had appeared in same words in Hebrew. Alphonsus did not write in English, and the translators acted in line with the English of the time. Alphonsus never gave Mary the worship due to God, and Catholics don't too. Yet when they see "worship", like in that poem, they go up in arms. Take note. "Then Joshua tore his clothes and fell face down (prostrate) to the ground before the ark of the LORD" Joshua 7:6. Shebi Joshua has worshiped the ark too. SMH. 3 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by apogeez(m): 3:36pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
nicepick02:pls dnt talk curse into ur life mind just concetret on ur pastor world. I cn't even remember wen the catholic pleadin 4 member and wot ur doing nw with that email is convice ur fruld |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by charlsecy(m): 3:40pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
italo: The pastor cannot deliver you; he can only pray for your protection in the Name of Jesus Christ. And you should never say, for example, "O' Pastor James, deliver me from all dangers." That is idolatry! Note that the "We Fly To Your Patronage" prayer doesn't ask Mary to pray to Jesus to protect you. Instead, it plainly asks Mary for protection. Again. The prayer doesn't ask Mary to intercede for your protection. Rather, it directly beseeches Mary for protection, which in my understanding, constitutes worship, NOT intercession. We pray to an entity we worship. The purpose of prayers is to commune with our creator. The content may be: *Praise and Thanksgiving *Request for forgiveness *Request for protection *Request for any other noble heart desires Can you show how the "We Fly To Your Patronage" prayer isn't a sort of worship? 1 Like 1 Share |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by Rich4god(m): 3:45pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
I still stand that all those claiming that they are former Catholics and yet still accuse catholic of worshipping Mary are deliberately lying... Tallesty1 take note.... We all know the reverence we give to Christ can not be "equated" to the one we give to Mary... So where did they get their proof that we worship Mary.... Even by the way the church handles the blessed sacrament as compared to the statue of Mary and other siants shld gv one an indication of the big difference between the worship we give to Christ and honor that we give to Mary... Yet the won't see that only to come here to claim rubbish... 2 Likes |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by charlsecy(m): 3:48pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Rich4god:Note that the "We Fly To Your Patronage" prayer doesn't ask Mary to pray to Jesus to protect you. Instead, it plainly asks Mary for protection. Again. The prayer doesn't ask Mary to intercede for your protection. Rather, it directly beseeches Mary for protection, which in my understanding, constitutes worship, NOT intercession. 1 Like |
Re: How Jesus Reacted To The Worship Of Mary by nurusystem(m): 4:11pm On Jul 06, 2015 |
Alexmoses007:respect u infidel u are not seriousmen |
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