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On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:22pm On Jun 28, 2015
This is an addendum and equally a response emanating from this thread https://www.nairaland.com/2409187/saraki-vs-tinubu-comparism-why

DISCLAIMER

It is usually not in my everyday nature to appear dissident to my easy going and agreeable persona.
I have decided to do the opposite of my ordinary personality pattern, to check in with myself to find my own truth and to find the courage to express my opinion even if it means disagreeing with almost everyone.
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It is a sad pity that whenever Barcanista says stuff that sounds good to the ears of APC folks on here, he is "objective" and "should stop playing partisan politics, so he can have a wider reach"
But when he does the complete opposite, even when it is apparent he speaks the truth and fact, he is met with open condemnation, and more or less, incorrigible counter attacks
You lost an asset in Barcanista.
#Fact

I remember clearly that it was a seemingly objective thread like this that he opened and you all came calling for his head.
Even when he clearly didn't mean to defect, your accusations, counter accusations and vituperations led the young man, unwittingly to adopt PDP.
And thankfully, the PDP e-constituency on Nairaland is better for it.

Take a look at that thread, 7 pages and counting, how many of our people do you see lampooning him like the APC did?
It is called tolerance and giving your own the benefit of a doubt! even though it looked as if he was gradually warming his way back into the APC.

What some of us did was to contact him privately to know exactly what he is up to.

For Your Information, this is Barcanista's stand as of today 28th June, 2015.
@Barcanista, if I have forged any of what I am about to write below, please feel free to refute it.
Thank You.


Are You Thinking Of Porting Back To APC?

No, It hasn't come to that.

You sound like it might likely come to that. Lol

Don't get me wrong like APC did, I am not the typical conservative, I am a reformist. I am not the type that endures the status quo when it does appear like it isn't the right path.

That's an admirable trait.

Sometimes, I look beyond politics too.
For instance, I believe that people like Saraki should be punished. Now I will always support any move that seeks to punish him so as to serve as a deterrent to would be traitors.

The PDP should be careful with giving Saraki a lifeline so as not to send the wrong signal to others that treachery comes with its positive reward. Giving Saraki a lifeline will be a loss to PDP.

Lol

Yes, I don't believe in rewarding treachery. I believe in using and dumping traitors. Already PDP has used him to gain control of Senate. Time to dump him.

I support you on that. You are making sense. Honestly APC lost an asset in you.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by missbehave247(m): 3:23pm On Jun 28, 2015
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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:24pm On Jun 28, 2015
@OP your submission absolutely represent my view.

Abeg Make I park my jeep here. STC no easy o

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:26pm On Jun 28, 2015
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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:26pm On Jun 28, 2015
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smiley

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Tallesty1(m): 3:26pm On Jun 28, 2015
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and shudder.grin



Every liar knows the truth and will speak it at a point and under some powers.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by DropShot: 3:30pm On Jun 28, 2015
And what did his defection achieve for PDP and its sympathizers here? Didn't they lose woefully at the polls?

NL is fun to be indeed!

And what asset is in him that is very inconsistent on issues?.

I am not talking about being consistent about supporting a party when it's silly to do so. I am talking about being consistent with same issues all the time and every time.

What good can come out of someone who says GEJ was epitome of corruption, giving facts and figures; only to start telling us that the chsnge Nigeria needed can be achieved within the same PDP with GEJ as the president?

The guy is no different from a typical Nigerian politician - anywhere his bread can be buttered is where he pitches his tent.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:34pm On Jun 28, 2015
Tallesty1:
Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and shudder.grin



Every liar knows the truth and will speak it at a point and under some powers.
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:35pm On Jun 28, 2015
DropShot:
And what did his defection achieve for PDP and its sympathizers here? Didn't they lose woefully at the polls?
NL is fun to be indeed!
Oga no be fight na. Politics is a continuum. It will surely exceed March 28 poll beside the op only penned her thought which I think isn't a bad idea anyway.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by iPopAlomo(m): 3:36pm On Jun 28, 2015
Wetin yansh go cause ehn... I reserve my comment...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Whynotthetruth(m): 3:37pm On Jun 28, 2015
Truth is that I am yet to confront barca on the said thread...because inasmuch as I feel he should not open such threads which pander him to APC, but still I cannot deny him his inalienable right to self expression and also freedom to voice his opinion as he deems fit...

I decided that anytime such threads are opened by him, I would rather ignore them and move on, than drop even as much as a comma on it...I have done this to his last two threads...I am in opposition and should not be seen advising or helping the ruling party to adjust their ideas and folds...There mistake and failure is my gain...that's politics...politics isn't about morality but constitutionality...

But in all, PDP family is by far more tolerant and brotherly than APC conglomerate of strange fellows...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:37pm On Jun 28, 2015
Okay
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by DropShot: 3:38pm On Jun 28, 2015
barcanista:
Oga no be fight na. Politics is a continuum. It will surely exceed March 28 poll beside the op only penned her thought which I think isn't a bad idea anyway.

I no dey fight you bro. I have modified my post. Pls read it again.
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by iPopAlomo(m): 3:40pm On Jun 28, 2015
One quick question... did the APC ever employ barcanista... he's a newspaper stand analyst... no offence but it's true...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:41pm On Jun 28, 2015
Hmmm
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:42pm On Jun 28, 2015
DropShot:
And what did his defection achieve for PDP and its sympathizers here? Didn't they lose woefully at the polls?

NL is fun to be indeed!

Bro.
I don't know about others.
But for me, I have been schooled a great deal on matters of politics, the polity and National issues.

He spearheaded the campaign for Saraki's emergence.

Prior to his detailed analysis on what the PDP stood to gain, I was indifferent.
I didn't even read about such in the dailies or from anyone on here.
That was an original from him.

Today, the PDP is not the ruling party, but boasts of producing the Deputy Senate president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. A feat many of us thought inconceivable and impossible.

I needn't say more.
Sometimes I hate to admit it, but Barca isn't just an Opinion Leader, He is also a Thought Leader.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by iPopAlomo(m): 3:42pm On Jun 28, 2015
So people dey set P for nairaland... na him person go send PM to girl... dem no go reply... like say dem no dey do UNDER-G... Continu... God us watching all of us sha Ooo...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by DebateNigeria: 3:43pm On Jun 28, 2015
Obiagelli:
Hmmm
surprised?
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:45pm On Jun 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:
Truth is that I am yet to confront barca on the said thread...because inasmuch as I feel he should not open such threads which pander him to APC, but still I cannot deny him his inalienable right to self expression and also freedom to voice his opinion as he deems fit...

I decided that anytime such threads are opened by him, I would rather ignore them and move on, than drop even as much as a comma on it...I have done this to his last two threads...I am in opposition and should not be seen advising or helping the ruling party to adjust their ideas and folds...There mistake and failure is my gain...that's politics...politics isn't about morality but constitutionality...

But in all, PDP family is by far more tolerant and brotherly than APC conglomerate of strange fellows...
Wow o wow... Boys are not smiling I must say but you shouldn't go that route jare.
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:45pm On Jun 28, 2015
iPopAlomo:
Wetin yansh go cause ehn... I reserve my comment...

You needn't tow such line of thought Bro. It's unnecessary and false.
Good Afternoon and Happy Sunday/Ramadan Kareem.
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Whynotthetruth(m): 3:46pm On Jun 28, 2015
DropShot:
And what did his defection achieve for PDP and its sympathizers here? Didn't they lose woefully at the polls?

NL is fun to be indeed!

And what asset is in him that is very inconsistent on issues?.

I am not talking about being consistent about supporting a party when it's silly to do so. I am talking about being consistent with same issues all the time and every time.

What good can come out of someone who says GEJ was epitome of corruption, giving facts and figures today; only to start telling us that the chsnge Nigeria needed can be achieved within the same PDP with GEJ as the president?

The guy is no different from a typical Nigerian politician - anywhere his bread can be buttered is where he pitches his tent.

I am not defending anybody but simply wanna let you know that there isn't anything like consistency with issues...

You base your judgement on data available to you at each point in time and as a rational being MUST shift ground when superior information is made available to you...

It is only fanatics, cultists, and deranged persons who won't change their opinion based on superior information countering their original belief...

And finally, it takes a courageous man and principled man to say; I am sorry; my initial stance is flawed...This is where I am now...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:46pm On Jun 28, 2015
barcanista:
Wow o wow... Boys are not smiling I must say but you shouldn't go that route jare.

Now, you should understand why I took the initiative.
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by sigidporte(m): 3:47pm On Jun 28, 2015
Barcanista is my boy, give him food and he will sing for you - ***

cheesy

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Whynotthetruth(m): 3:50pm On Jun 28, 2015
iPopAlomo:
So people dey set P for nairaland... na him person go send PM to girl... dem no go reply... like say dem no dey do UNDER-G... Continu... God us watching all of us sha Ooo...

Can you stop littering this thread with your dirty thoughts and opinions
Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Nobody: 3:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
DropShot:
And what did his defection achieve for PDP and its sympathizers here? Didn't they lose woefully at the polls?

NL is fun to be indeed!

And what asset is in him that is very inconsistent on issues?.

I am not talking about being consistent about supporting a party when it's silly to do so. I am talking about being consistent with same issues all the time and every time.

What good can come out of someone who says GEJ was epitome of corruption, giving facts and figures today; only to start telling us that the chsnge Nigeria needed can be achieved within the same PDP with GEJ as the president?

The guy is no different from a typical Nigerian politician - anywhere his bread can be buttered is where he pitches his tent.
Funny enough the emboldened is based on your own interpretation. My position on APC/PDP is what is manifesting today. To the best of my knowledge I have been consistent in my position on issues except when my position was modified due to new information that I wasn't initially privy to.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by DropShot: 3:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
MizMyColi:


Bro.
I don't know about others.
But for me, I have been schooled a great deal on matters of politics, the polity and National issues.

He spearheaded the campaign for Saraki's emergence.

Prior to his detailed analysis on what the PDP stood to gain, I was indifferent.
I didn't even read about such in the dailies or from anyone on here.
That was an original from him.

Today, the PDP is not the ruling party, but boasts of producing the Deputy Senate president of the Federal Republic of Nigeria. A feat many of us thought inconceivable and impossible.

I needn't say more.
Sometimes I hate to admit it, but Barca isn't just an Opinion Leader, He is also a Thought Leader.
Your opinion of his "prowess" is perhaps because you're politically naive. What happened with Saraki could have happened with anyone not annointed by APC given the fact that PDP had vowed to do a "Tambuwal" to APC as they did to them. And PDP getting the DSP was just as a result of APC senators not present on the day of inauguration. Though they could also have gotten it based on an alleged pact with Saraki but would surely have been tougher had apc senators been around.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MizMyColi(f): 3:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


I am not defending anybody but simply wanna let you know that there isn't anything like consistency with issues...

You base your judgement on data available to you at each point in time and as a rational being MUST shift ground when superior information is made available to you...

It is only fanatics, cultists, and deranged persons who won't change their opinion based on superior information countering their original belief...

And finally, it takes a courageous man and principled man to say; I am sorry; my initial stance is flawed...This is where I am now...

The emboldened and reddened is what inspired my open support for PDP.
Nairaland PDP folks influenced my decision, not the mainstream.

This is a clear example of a man who is not happy with his brother's actions lately, but yet stands up for him and will not join others to stamp him in the mud.

Political Affiliations for me goes beyond interests.
It's about festering/fostering the spirit Brotherhood and Statesmanship.

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MabraO: 3:51pm On Jun 28, 2015
Nonsense!!

I thought I could get something informative from this thread, all I could get was "lol nd APC lost an asset in u"
Rubbish!!
Barcanista u see?
Wen I told u anything u say mizmycoli ll believe u u said I should leave the lady alone now u can see now abi

She even had to open a thread just to affirm that

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by iPopAlomo(m): 3:54pm On Jun 28, 2015
Whynotthetruth:


Can you stop littering this thread with your dirty thoughts and opinions

Hanhan... did they not send PM to each other nii...?! how's that a dirty thought...

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by Whynotthetruth(m): 3:55pm On Jun 28, 2015
barcanista:
Wow o wow... Boys are not smiling I must say but you shouldn't go that route jare.

I already did bro...Anytime such threads that pander to APC by way of advising them on how to put their house in order etc are opened by you; my gift will be a resounding silence to the thread because I am in opposition... Unless APC falters, I cannot gain...so why help them not to falter...this is politics not religion bro

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by MabraO: 3:57pm On Jun 28, 2015
barcanista:
Funny enough the emboldened is based on your own interpretation. My position on APC/PDP is what is manifesting today. To the best of my knowledge I have been consistent in my position on issues except when my position was modified due to new information that I wasn't initially privy to.

PS: I've never said GEJ government wasn't corrupt at anytime

At them embolded
U ve said that times without number
U know a liar has no memory hence the reason y u forgot

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Re: On The Saraki-Tinubu Comparison; An Addendum And A Response To Barcanista by iPopAlomo(m): 3:57pm On Jun 28, 2015
MabraO:
Nonsense!!

I thought I could get something informative from this thread, all I could get was "lol nd APC lost an asset in u"
Rubbish!!
Barcanista u see?
Wen I told u anything u say mizmycoli ll believe u u said I should leave the lady alone now u can see now abi

She even had to open a thread just to affirm that

Bros... You sef notice am... she just dey nod... even if... (I no wan mention name) put up a nonsensical argument... she go just say yes nii... at least we now know what is going down in private PM... grin

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