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Who Should Be Called A Doct by manbolistic: 10:39am On Jul 08, 2015
Adam Jones
I take the point of MD, as that is a doctorate level qualification,
however your justification for other medics is rubbish. "Doctor"
is not a professional title, it is an academic title. Thus medics
without a PhD or MD are lying to patients about their
qualifications. The length of medical training merely reflects
the fact that they have two bachelors degrees, they don't even
have a masters level education! Talk of "clinical context" is
merely perpetuating a falsehood. "Doctor" is not a protected
professional title, unlike "Biomedical Scientist" and
"Physiotherapist", which are protected and can only be used
by people with the appropriate qualifications and accreditation
by governing bodies. The BMA has no claim, professional or
otherwise, to the title of "Doctor", thus unless the person in
question has a doctoral level qualification, they are not entitled
to use that title. A "physician" is not someone who has
specialist training. They are often still in training for their RCGP
exams. So for the sake of argument, let's just say that you can
call yourself a "medic" or "pediatrician" or "gynaecologist" or
"neurologist", etc, but without doctoral qualifications you are
most certainly NOT a doctor and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to use
that nominal title in or out of a clinical situation. You don't go
to "doctor school", you go to MEDICAL SCHOOL!

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by babaNepa(m): 10:47am On Jul 08, 2015
Issokay angryIssokay
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by importexpert(m): 10:50am On Jul 08, 2015
traces of sense detected.
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 6:07pm On Jul 08, 2015
I detest arguing with lawyers, they can make feels so illiterate.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by manbolistic: 8:19pm On Jul 08, 2015
But d fact remains dat being a physician doesn't make u use d name doctor.
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by NWANICHODE: 10:12pm On Jul 08, 2015
@op, I can see frustration written all over you. Go and see your doctor before you enter road.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by manbolistic: 7:08am On Jul 09, 2015
Frustration indeed. Maybe if u countered with a superior argument, I would have understood. In d US n UK which we borrowed our civilization from. Hw are their doctors addressed. Hw do they write their names. It is only in Nigeria that d name is basterdized

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by tpiander: 7:11am On Jul 09, 2015
omg, why are nairalanders so obsessed with what they are not?

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 2:33pm On Jul 09, 2015
Op must be high. Don't worry, hope is not lost. Just check into a rehab centre. This is what happens when you are full of jealousy for what you cannot achieve. keep hating while doctors are progressing. smh

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 2:35pm On Jul 09, 2015
manbolistic:
Frustration indeed. Maybe if u countered with a superior argument, I would have understood. In d US n UK which we borrowed our civilization from. Hw are their doctors addressed. Hw do they write their names. It is only in Nigeria that d name is basterdized
I won't be surprised if you are Johesu. pls grow up. All these unnecessary bitterness don't help the health sector unless you didn't have a calling. just there for the money

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 5:10pm On Jul 09, 2015
justirich:

I won't be surprised if you are Johesu. pls grow up. All these unnecessary bitterness don't help the health sector unless you didn't have a calling. just there for the money
Counter his argument and stop being overly emotional.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by tpiander: 5:15pm On Jul 09, 2015
LadyFiona:
Counter his argument and stop being overly emotional.

argument?

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 5:20pm On Jul 09, 2015
tpiander:


argument?
Yea, what do you think it is? People has been arguing about who and who will be called a doctor for greater part of last decade and the argument is still on.

State your points "for" or "against", let's learn. Simple. No back lashing...

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by tpiander: 5:23pm On Jul 09, 2015
I have better things to do with my time.
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by manbolistic: 9:57pm On Jul 09, 2015
@Ladyfiona am grateful 2 God dat we still have people who r open 2 discussions n counter suggestions. Everytime points are raised, people raise sentiments. The question I keep asking is, where did we borrow our health system from. Its definitely d UK and USA. Pls take a tour of dis countries n see hw d doctors address demselves. Inside d clinic dey refer 2 demselves as Chris Morgan M.D (M.D means medical doctor). They reserve d acronym Dr for PhD holders. Hw will someone do 4yrs BSC, 2yrs Masters n 5yrs PhD b4 attaining Dr status n some does jus 6yrs MBBS (bachelor or medicine and bachelor of surgery) n wants 2 colonize d name Dr. I do not envy d fact dat my friends n brothers who did MBBS r doctors, am only bothered that we have taken mediocrity as a way of life.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 5:03pm On Jul 19, 2015
manbolistic:
@Ladyfiona am grateful 2 God dat we still have people who r open 2 discussions n counter suggestions. Everytime points are raised, people raise sentiments. The question I keep asking is, where did we borrow our health system from. Its definitely d UK and USA. Pls take a tour of dis countries n see hw d doctors address demselves. Inside d clinic dey refer 2 demselves as Chris Morgan M.D (M.D means medical doctor). They reserve d acronym Dr for PhD holders. Hw will someone do 4yrs BSC, 2yrs Masters n 5yrs PhD b4 attaining Dr status n some does jus 6yrs MBBS (bachelor or medicine and bachelor of surgery) n wants 2 colonize d name Dr. I do not envy d fact dat my friends n brothers who did MBBS r doctors, am only bothered that we have taken mediocrity as a way of life.
Your reasoning is stupid. I hope such hatred doesn't affect your life. grow up dude. Your mates are progressing while you coming online to express your frustrations. Oya go protest for Nigerian Senate, WHO and UN so that medical doctors will be no longer be addressed as Dr. NFA

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Gbsks: 9:34pm On Jul 19, 2015
manbolistic:
@Ladyfiona am grateful 2 God dat we still have people who r open 2 discussions n counter suggestions. Everytime points are raised, people raise sentiments. The question I keep asking is, where did we borrow our health system from. Its definitely d UK and USA. Pls take a tour of dis countries n see hw d doctors address demselves. Inside d clinic dey refer 2 demselves as Chris Morgan M.D (M.D means medical doctor). They reserve d acronym Dr for PhD holders. Hw will someone do 4yrs BSC, 2yrs Masters n 5yrs PhD b4 attaining Dr status n some does jus 6yrs MBBS (bachelor or medicine and bachelor of surgery) n wants 2 colonize d name Dr. I do not envy d fact dat my friends n brothers who did MBBS r doctors, am only bothered that we have taken mediocrity as a way of life.
guy! Your post reeks of ignorance, it's quite clear you lack understanding of the meaning of words not to talk of the use of adjectives. Abeg mentorandfriend, lomaxx, lagusta,cowleg, pls i need you to educate this guy

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Lagusta(m): 10:01pm On Jul 19, 2015
Gbsks:
guy! Your post reeks of ignorance, it's quite clear you lack understanding of the meaning of words not to talk of the use of adjectives. Abeg mentorandfriend, lomaxx, lagusta,cowleg, pls i need you to educate this guy

*sipping hollandia yoghurt*

On my way boss....
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Lagusta(m): 10:11pm On Jul 19, 2015
manbolistic:
Adam Jones
I take the point of MD, as that is a doctorate level qualification,
however your justification for other medics is rubbish. "Doctor"
is not a professional title, it is an academic title. Thus medics
without a PhD or MD are lying to patients about their
qualifications. The length of medical training merely reflects
the fact that they have two bachelors degrees, they don't even
have a masters level education! Talk of "clinical context" is
merely perpetuating a falsehood. "Doctor" is not a protected
professional title, unlike "Biomedical Scientist" and
"Physiotherapist", which are protected and can only be used
by people with the appropriate qualifications and accreditation
by governing bodies. The BMA has no claim, professional or
otherwise, to the title of "Doctor", thus unless the person in
question has a doctoral level qualification, they are not entitled
to use that title. A "physician" is not someone who has
specialist training. They are often still in training for their RCGP
exams. So for the sake of argument, let's just say that you can
call yourself a "medic" or "pediatrician" or "gynaecologist" or
"neurologist", etc, but without doctoral qualifications you are
most certainly NOT a doctor and have NO LEGAL RIGHT to use
that nominal title in or out of a clinical situation. You don't go
to "doctor school", you go to MEDICAL SCHOOL!

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I'll start from here....

Wait, who vomited all this arrant discombobulated stupendous horrendous pile of elephant crap??!!!!?!!!!!!!!??

A medical doctor is always referred to as " doctor " all over the world... From Nigeria to Somalia, from Canada to Guatemala, from Brazil to Venezuela, from Australia to Myanmar....

It's a pity this was posted here, our white counterparts would really sneer and jeer at us seriously after reading that nonsense above....

Look, if you know what it takes to be a medical doctor; all the lectures, tutorials, practicals, ward rounds, clinics, call hours, procedures, etc, and their back-breaking exams, which you'd think you'll pass with flying colours, but it comes out otherwise, then you'd know that the MBBS degree could be equal to a PhD.....

Maybe that's why in the USA, you have to go to a university for four years to have a degree before going to medical school.....

And you're called DOCTOR immediately....

So boss, how market

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by mentorandfriend(m): 10:11pm On Jul 19, 2015
Gbsks:
guy! Your post reeks of ignorance, it's quite clear you lack understanding of the meaning of words not to talk of the use of adjectives. Abeg mentorandfriend, lomaxx, lagusta,cowleg, pls i need you to educate this guy
I could spend all night educating the guy on this issue, but let me wait and read through his comments, to ascertain if he is educable in the first place.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Gbsks: 10:14pm On Jul 19, 2015
Abi.. Help me tell him oh!
Lagusta:


I'll start from here....

Wait, who vomited all this arrant discombobulated stupendous horrendous pile of elephant crap??!!!!?!!!!!!!!??

A medical doctor is always referred to as " doctor " all over the world... From Nigeria to Somalia, from Canada to Guatemala, from Brazil to Venezuela, from Australia to Myanmar....

It's a pity this was posted here, our white counterparts would really sneer and jeer at us seriously after reading that nonsense above....

Look, if you know what it takes to be a medical doctor; all the lectures, tutorials, practicals, ward rounds, clinics, call hours, procedures, etc, and their back-breaking exams, which you'd think you'll pass with flying colours, but it comes out otherwise, then you'd know that the MBBS degree could be equal to a PhD.....

Maybe that's why in the USA, you have to go to a university for four years to have a degree before going to medical school.....

And you're called DOCTOR immediately....

So boss, how market
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Gbsks: 10:15pm On Jul 19, 2015
mentorandfriend:
I could spend all night educating the guy on this issue, but let me wait and read through his comments, to ascertain if he is educable in the first place.
ok sire!
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Lagusta(m): 10:18pm On Jul 19, 2015
manbolistic:
@Ladyfiona am grateful 2 God dat we still have people who r open 2 discussions n counter suggestions. Everytime points are raised, people raise sentiments. The question I keep asking is, where did we borrow our health system from. Its definitely d UK and USA. Pls take a tour of dis countries n see hw d doctors address demselves. Inside d clinic dey refer 2 demselves as Chris Morgan M.D (M.D means medical doctor). They reserve d acronym Dr for PhD holders. Hw will someone do 4yrs BSC, 2yrs Masters n 5yrs PhD b4 attaining Dr status n some does jus 6yrs MBBS (bachelor or medicine and bachelor of surgery) n wants 2 colonize d name Dr. I do not envy d fact dat my friends n brothers who did MBBS r doctors, am only bothered that we have taken mediocrity as a way of life.

Boss, if you don't know anything about something, then say NOTHING!!!

Do u think being a doctor is easy

Do u think saving lives is easy

Do u think holding a scalpel is easy

Do u think cutting a dead body is easy

Do u think writing a 500-objective question paper within three hours is easy

Do u think answering eighteen essay questions within three hours is easy

Do u think looking at a human being's brain, as rotten as it is, and labelling and identifying all the sulci and gyri and even the corpus callosum and falx cerebri during an oral exam is easy

Or wait, in a final year oral exam, you are sweating under A/c and fan, and your examiner is asking u "why should we pass you, why should we make you a DOCTOR" Thats easy baa

Boss, being a doctor is not easy at all.....

Never ever compare PhD to MBBS, please...

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Nobody: 11:00pm On Jul 19, 2015
Lagusta:


Boss, if you don't know anything about something, then say NOTHING!!!

Do u think being a doctor is easy

Do u think saving lives is easy

Do u think holding a scalpel is easy

Do u think cutting a dead body is easy

Do u think writing a 500-objective question paper within three hours is easy

Do u think answering eighteen essay questions within three hours is easy

Do u think looking at a human being's brain, as rotten as it is, and labelling and identifying all the sulci and gyri and even the corpus callosum and falx cerebri during an oral exam is easy

Or wait, in a final year oral exam, you are sweating under A/c and fan, and your examiner is asking u "why should we pass you, why should we make you a DOCTOR" Thats easy baa

Boss, being a doctor is not easy at all.....

Never ever compare PhD to MBBS, please...
Well said Sir
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by DrBigalo: 11:23pm On Jul 19, 2015
Go get urself Oxford advanced learner's English dictionary dude.
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by DBestDoc(f): 5:30am On Jul 20, 2015
manbolistic:
Frustration indeed. Maybe if u countered with a superior argument, I would have understood. In d US n UK which we borrowed our civilization from. Hw are their doctors addressed. Hw do they write their names. It is only in Nigeria that d name is basterdized

I can see you lack appropriate exposure. Did you say in the US and Uk, medical Doctors and the general public do not use the title Dr for a medic?

I'm dead sure you've not crossed MMIA 'cause if you have, you won't spill this thrash you just did here....grow up man and stop advertising your ignorance.

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by alphalpha(m): 2:37pm On Jul 20, 2015
let's assume all your claims are correct.
I've held the belief that, the title, Doctor, is awarded to persons who have undergone thorough, intensive training/study in a particular subject because they are likened to medical doctors whose field of study naturally demands that.
The natural name of a person who treats sick people is Doctor.
Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by Doclight(m): 3:41pm On Jul 20, 2015
Dr. Lagusta, you really did well. Indeed, nobody till you came was able to counter his bulobulolisticatededbanashaded post!
Weldone!

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Re: Who Should Be Called A Doct by drkush: 4:22pm On Jan 08, 2018
Manbolistic got what he deserved...He is certainly one of those that Jamb change their destinies or those whose IQ no fit carry medicine. I wouldv adviced u to go nntake another jamb form but u know most schools v increased their cut off for medicine but u can hope that someone in ur lineage go get brain wey fit carry medicine....As for counter arguments, Dr Lagusta et all v done justice to that, so I certainly wont join issues with an ignorant fellow...its a communicable disease n there is no vaccine for that yet.

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