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Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Abba999(f): 9:42am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: Please I disagree with u my dear. I still insist that being independence from the north gives us that sovereign power, right and world support to exterminate any invasion! Has Europe, America, Far east Asia been invaded? Please spare me long suffering and deadly one nigeria! 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:45am On Jul 11, 2015 |
naijanaso: Why demand for the closure of this thread when you can easily refute what I posted? Unless you can't refute what I posted for it is the plain bitter truth. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Rilwayne001: 9:49am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Behold! how they invent a lie against Allah! but that by itself is a manifest sin! Quran,4:50 WombRaiders: [b] In order to gain a proper understanding of many verses in the Holy Quran, it is important to understand and know the historic context of the revelations. So many revelations in the Holy Quran came down to provide guidance to Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and the fellow Muslims based on what they were confronting at that time. The verse 8:12 is one such verse which is misinterpreted. This verse and the verses before and after were revealed about the Battle of Badr, which occurred in Arabia in the early seventh century. A battle in which the pagans of Makkah traveled more than 200 miles to Madinah with an army of about 1000 to destroy Muslims. Prophet Muhammad (peace be on him) and fellow Muslims had suffered severe persecutions and torture for 13 years in the city of Makkah. Despite signing peace treaty with them, they still went ahead to break it Surah Al-Anfal, Verse 56: Those of them with whom thou madest a treaty, and then at every opportunity they break their treaty, and they keep not duty (to Allah). And now that they had fled Makkah and found a sanctuary in the city of Madinah, they were once again threatened. Muslim Army was only about 300 strong. God Almighty gave the order to Muslims to fight to defend their lives and faith. The enemy came to them with the intent to kill Muslims. It was a war to defend themselves and their Faith. It was a war imposed upon Muslims. However, even during the war, Islam has the highest moral law of war. You don't kill children, women or any one who is not fighting with you. In that same surah that you ignoratly tagged as a terror surah muslims are ordered not to fight if the enemy wants a peace treaty: Surah 8, Verse 61: But if they incline to peace, incline thou to it as well, and place thy trust in God: verily, He alone is all-hearing, all-knowing! [/b] 5 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:50am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Abba999: Europe has been invaded already. Liberal politicians are already accommodating Islam. The western media has been bought by Arab oil money so they play down the jihad. Any European who condemns Islamic violence is termed a bigot. Give Europe at most 20yrs and Rome will fall to ISIS. I did not oppose the independence of a northern Caliphate but rather stated that once this happens we must be ready for war, now, in the near and distant future. In future the mistakes the Europeans are making with Islam will befall our own children when they become to liberal with the threats and relax. Once this Caliphate to the north is restored we owe it to our children to educate them of the ever present threat to the north and that they should never relax their guard. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 9:50am On Jul 11, 2015 |
I keep wondering when dude say keep saying ISLAM fastest growing Religion why won't it be when your Prophet has ordered you to Marry four (4) wives and take as many women as sex slave. If you don't know you will think they are having converts every seconds. Hahahahahahahaha fastest growing Religion Indeed 1 Like |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 9:53am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders:So if boko haram was created to tarnish gej then what are they still doing now? And please boko haram was at first not created to cause any sectarian war.we know how they started. They were graduates who burnt their certificates and declared that western education is haram without any proof. Boko haram will claim to be fighting christianity and bomb mosques They claim to fight western education and yet bomb villages where there is no single school. Let's stop decieving ourselves 1 Like |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:54am On Jul 11, 2015 |
ERODEDEAST: The world has been experiencing a resurgence of gonorhea because of the emergence of drug resistant strains but that doesn't make gonorhea a good thing or does it? 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 9:57am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Rilwayne001:Thank you sir!!! 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 9:58am On Jul 11, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: First of I have a thread here on the "Birth of a Monster" which details their formation. Here it is: BackDatAssUp: Secondly, the increased spate of attacks in spite of US cooperation to supply and allow us purchase weapons is because Buhari wants to force a peace deal on us and subsequently grant amnesty to Boko Haram. It is pure blackmail by Buhari and all these attacks are on his orders. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Dannyset(m): 10:00am On Jul 11, 2015 |
This thread should hav been closed. 1 Like |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:01am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Dannyset: The thread is too dangerous by being to liberal with the truth. It's called being Politically Incorrect but that doesn't make it a lie either. 2 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Emekamex(m): 10:01am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: But this verses are clear and simple, how come people always say extremists misinterpret them? 6 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:04am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Islamic thought includes all educational
endeavors and scholarly opinions made in
distinguishing Islam’s core principles, its
simplicity and its tenderness and compassion in
its approach to all aspects of human relations.
Today there are many individuals just like the op who study
Islam from a superficial point of view and
emerge with their own ideas and imaginary
interpretations which often diverge greatly
from the established legislation in the area of
study. Because of such studies lacking a true
basis in Islamic jurisprudence, many non-Muslims
are given a bad understanding about Islam. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:08am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Ahmed4002: So you at least agree that I am a semi Imam when it comes to your religion. Mind you there are two outcomes when one decides to read the Koran. You either come out like me who condemns outright the violent doctrine and see the links to wide spread Islamic violence and there are those who will read it and go chop off the heads of non Muslims as clearly directed by your Koran. Islam distorts the moral compass and even one's God given conscience for how can some one sleep peacefully after dedicating their young child as a suicide bomber ? 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Dannyset(m): 10:11am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: If all am seeing here is the reason why u created this thread then it's rubbish and should be closed. I don't know why u people like creating more problem. We already have handful of it, yet all u can do is to add more. U are not even preaching the gospel maybe we'd say ur a radical evangelist. Pls if dis is why u created this thread, I think u shld hav a rethink. |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by naijanaso: 10:12am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: My dear I understand what you mean, but the responses that follow is what I am referring to. Read through and you will appreciate why I wrote thus. |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 10:12am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders:Funny enough, jonathans right hand man mr modu sheriff was among those politicians. And for your information, the U.S refused to sell those weapons because they first planned to rescue the chibok girls with gas but as they were trying to execute the plan, they saw the terrorists wearing gas masks. How do you expect them to trust gej govt? You can use google to verify |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by virus04(m): 10:14am On Jul 11, 2015 |
abduljabbar4: God punish you and your allah.. Idiot.. You just dey run mouth.. I hate it Islam is a religion Christianity is a lifestyle 5 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:16am On Jul 11, 2015 |
amaben2020: The Prophet invited the unbelievers peacefully, lodged protests against their beliefs and strove to remove their misgivings about Islam. When they refused any other solution, but rather declared a war against him and his message and initiated the fight, there was no alternative except to fight back. Imām Mālik bin Anas stated in al-Mudawwanat al-kubrā: The first of what Allah has sent His Messenger is to call people to Islam without fighting. He didn’t give him permission to fight nor to take money from people. The Prophet stayed like that for thirteen years in Makkah, bearing all kinds of persecutions, until he left for Madīnah. |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:16am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Dannyset: I have not seen the four walls of a church in over 20yrs. I am a Christian but I am not a bible clucthing zealot either. My opening this thread as you should able to discern was a response to Buhari's statement on Boko Haram not being muslim. I don't really care who you worship or what your religion preaches but what I do care is that there are too many Muslims who will kill me in the north for not being part of their religion and most disturbingly there are far too many others who will excuse my murder as having nothing to do with Islam but will sooner or later blame me for not being a Muslim. That is how it has been and that is how it will remain as long as you Muslims don't see that your religion promotes violence. It is that simple. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by abduljabbar4(m): 10:18am On Jul 11, 2015 |
virus04:You can hate me for bursting your lies. But on judgement day you will regret all this |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:21am On Jul 11, 2015 |
naijanaso: Removing all misconceptions and stereotypes in clarifying the image of Islam held by non- Muslims, building a trusting relationship and working with them in ways that accord with their way of thinking, are all primary forms of Educational. Similarly, establishing a strong community and nation which can fulfill all physical needs of its people, thereby creating for them conditions in which the message will be heard, rather than being lost in the strife and struggle of everyday life. These foundations fulfill the Qur’ānic injunction: ﻭَﻟْﺘَﻜُﻦ ﻣِّﻨﻜُﻢْ ﺃُﻣَّﺔٌ ﻳَﺪْﻋُﻮﻥَ ﺇِﻟَﻰ ﺍﻟْﺨَﻴْﺮِ ﻭَﻳَﺄْﻣُﺮُﻭﻥَ ﺑِﺎﻟْﻤَﻌْﺮُﻭﻑِ ﻭَﻳَﻨْﻬَﻮْﻥَ ﻋَﻦِ ﺍﻟْﻤُﻨﻜَﺮِ ﻭَﺃُﻭْﻟَـﺌِﻚَ ﻫُﻢُ ﺍﻟْﻤُﻔْﻠِﺤُﻮﻥَ Let there arise out of you a band of people inviting to all that is good, enjoining what is right, and forbidding what is wrong: and these it is that shall be successful. |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:28am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Ahmed4002: It is not what you say but rather what you do. If you truly want to promote trust then you must speak openly and clearly against Islamic violence. The Rhetrioc of peace does not stop beheadings neither has it ever made a single dint in bombings. Why is it so difficult to condemn the acts of your fellow strict adherents of Islam? Isn't this because you know deep in your heart that the likes of Shekau are truly the poster children of Islam? Is Jihad not mandatory to all Muslims? Is the establishment of a global Islamic empire not more important than promoting temporary peace with the Kafurs? Do you Muslim not believe with the emergence of ISIS that Islamic domination will soon be achieved? I am not in any way mocking you . Just answer these questions truthfully. 2 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 10:30am On Jul 11, 2015 |
@WombRaiders, When you hear people saying "this thread should be closed" You know they are not ready for the Truth. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:33am On Jul 11, 2015 |
ERODEDEAST: And they have no answer against the Truth. Buhari should not tell me nonsense. 3 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:33am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: “Whoever indiscriminately attacks my Nation killing the righteous and the wicked among them, and fulfilling not a pledge made with whoever was given a promise of security, has nothing to do with me and I have nothing to do with him." This portion of the hadith makes it abundantly clear that if someone attacks a person whose safety has been pledged by the nation's government to uphold, the Prophet is abandoning the attacker and dissociating himself from him. For the believer, nothing could be more distressing than for the Prophet to abandon him. In a similar vein, the hadith where the Prophet said: He who gives a promise of safety to a man in regards to his life, then kills him, I am innocent of the actions of the killer, even if the one killed was a disbeliever. “What would we gain from killing them?” |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:34am On Jul 11, 2015 |
amaben2020: So, would you like to be the first casualty? |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:37am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Ahmed4002: I suggest you take this peace verses from the Hadiths to your Muslim brethren in Boko Haram. They are the ones who need it not me. 2 Likes 1 Share |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Ahmed4002(m): 10:41am On Jul 11, 2015 |
WombRaiders: The Prophet said, “there will be after me leaders who do not follow my guidance and do not follow my Sunnah, and there will be among them men whose hearts are like those of Satan in the body of a human being.” In another narration, Awf bin Mālik ¦ said, “O Prophet of Allah, do you recommend that we fight them?” He said, “No, don't fight them as long as they do not prevent you from your prayers. And if you see from them something that you dislike, dislike their acts. what do you know about jihad? |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Nobody: 10:48am On Jul 11, 2015 |
Ahmed4002: From the bolded I now understand that you are not to condemn barbaric acts of your fellow Muslims like Shekau. So this injunction clearly states why you Muslims are not ready to confront ISIS and Boko Haram. This is why I stated in my first post that you Muslims have since removed yourself from the responsibility of preventing radicalization and Islamic extremism but will rather simply look for others to blame even where members of these aforementioned Islamic Terrorist organizations are Muslims . I also understand that your prophet also condemned Muslims who refused in one way or the other to support jihad. This is an Islamic website http://islamqa.info/en/46807 and it clearly states Islamic injunctions and doctrines that mandate all Muslims to participate and or support jihad. 2 Likes |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by Abba999(f): 10:50am On Jul 11, 2015 |
[s][/s] WombRaiders:[s][/s] That war I prefer than this nonsense we are facing today! I am a woman, but I have a lion heart. |
Re: Responding To Buhari's Declaration That Boko Haram Are Not Muslims. by ERODEDEAST(f): 10:51am On Jul 11, 2015 |
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