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Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by OgundeleT(m): 4:30pm On Jul 20, 2015
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one. JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for my Father is greater than I.
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by thorpido(m): 5:01pm On Jul 20, 2015
Jesus said,I and My Father are One.Jesus is one with the Father.However,He said,the One that sent Me is greater than I am.
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by mrZENographer: 6:21pm On Jul 20, 2015
OgundeleT:
JOH 10:30 I and my Father are one.
JOH 14:28 Ye have heard how I said unto you, I go
away, and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye
would rejoice, because I said, I go unto the Father: for
my Father is greater than I.


Besause Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, he is God.

The Spirit of ogundele is Ogundele. However, Ogundele's body may play diferent functions from his spirit. Example the body eats, the spirit prays or thinks.

One may also exercise authority over another. The body can decide when his spirjt should pray or become prayerless or do something against conscience. The body can also summon his spirit to go a far place called Astral Travel. different functions BUT THEY ARE ONE. MAN IS TRUINE.

John 16:28 "I proceeded forth and came from God neither came i out of myself but he sent me.

"The sent cannot be greater than he that sent him".
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by mrZENographer: 6:28pm On Jul 20, 2015
If any verse concernig Jesus being Son of God is hard to understand always try and relate it to yourself being A body, soul and spirit at d same time. And the differnt roles each play. That way u may easily understand Jesus words.
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by OgundeleT(m): 10:15pm On Jul 20, 2015
mrZENographer:



Besause Jesus is the only begotten Son of God, he is God.

The Spirit of ogundele is Ogundele. However, Ogundele's body may play diferent functions from his spirit. Example the body eats, the spirit prays or thinks.

One may also exercise authority over another. The body can decide when his spirjt should pray or become prayerless or do something against conscience. The body can also summon his spirit to go a far place called Astral Travel. different functions BUT THEY ARE ONE. MAN IS TRUINE.

John 16:28 "I proceeded forth and came from God neither came i out of myself but he sent me.

"The sent cannot be greater than he that sent him".
You said Jesus is the only son of God then he is God?
You said the sent cannot be greater than he that sent him. That is a contradiction.
u also said the spirit think or pray? I dont take that
so it is now body that summon his spirit and not spirit that summon body? But some people use to say there spirit is the one controling them.
U av not answer my question at all.
U can call somebody a son and still say he's equal to his father
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by mrZENographer: 11:13pm On Jul 20, 2015
OgundeleT:

You said Jesus is the only son of God then he is God?
You said the sent cannot be greater than he that sent him. That is a contradiction.
u also said the spirit think or pray? I dont take that
so it is now body that summon his spirit and not spirit that summon body? But some people use to say there spirit is the one controling them.
U av not answer my question at all.
U can call somebody a son and still say he's equal to his father

Sir, i dont knw why u dont understand but it is very clear from d analogy of man.

The Spirit of Man (ogundele) is his Spirit.
The Spirit of Ogundele is Ogundele
The Spirit of God is God

Is it because the word "Son" is used? Stop thinking carnally. Son of God also mean Spirit or Word of God. Now if God sent his Spirit to you will u not call him God?

Doubting Thomas said to him"My LORD and my God"Jesus said to him because you have seen me you now believe. Blessed are they that have not seen but yet believe.John20:28

About Spirit and Body, Ogundele tell urself d truth. Hav u had a situation when u wanted to steal e.g meat from d cooking pot and something is telling you dont steal, dont lie. It is a sin. But your cravings are too much and you go ahead to steal it. or the punishment is severe and u go ahead to lie. You spirit/conscience told you not to but because of selfishness, hunger etc you stole it.

That is why Bible said the Flesh is enemy of God. walk and Live in the spirit so that you wont fulfill the lust of the flesh. I just hope u understood.

The Spirit is not the Body and the Body is not the Spirit but both are OGUNDELE, likewise The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father but THEY ARE ONE. smiley
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by OgundeleT(m): 12:12am On Jul 21, 2015
mrZENographer:


Sir, i dont knw why u dont understand but it is very clear from d analogy of man.

The Spirit of Man (ogundele) is his Spirit.
The Spirit of Ogundele is Ogundele
The Spirit of God is God

Is it because the word "Son" is used? Stop thinking carnally. Son of God also mean Spirit or Word of God. Now if God sent his Spirit to you will u not call him God?

Doubting Thomas said to him"My LORD and my God"Jesus said to him because you have seen me you now believe. Blessed are they that have not seen but yet believe.John20:28

About Spirit and Body, Ogundele tell urself d truth. Hav u had a situation when u wanted to steal e.g meat from d cooking pot and something is telling you dont steal, dont lie. It is a sin. But your cravings are too much and you go ahead to steal it. or the punishment is severe and u go ahead to lie. You spirit/conscience told you not to but because of selfishness, hunger etc you stole it.

That is why Bible said the Flesh is enemy of God. walk and Live in the spirit so that you wont fulfill the lust of the flesh. I just hope u understood.

The Spirit is not the Body and the Body is not the Spirit but both are OGUNDELE, likewise The Father is not the Son and the Son is not the Father but THEY ARE ONE. smiley
If i now get u right, God sent his spirit to come and be humiliated and killed fo the sin of human kind? Also can spirit be visible?
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by mrZENographer: 3:37pm On Jul 24, 2015
OgundeleT:

If i now get u right, God sent his spirit to come and be humiliated and killed fo the sin of human kind? Also can spirit be visible?

Yes. Please read Isaiah 53 and get the confirmation. Also Jesus spoke SEVERAL TIMES of his death long before he died. If it didnt happen he would become a liar and a sinner. We wont be saying today that Jesus was sinless.

Yes. Spirit can manifest themselves physically. example angels and demons, even God appeared to Moses etc. But Jesus came through Mary because he have to be human to reconcile humans back to God. A sinner cannot save a sinner. A sinless person is required to save sinners.
Re: Is Jesus God Or Lesser Than God by OgundeleT(m): 4:11pm On Jul 24, 2015
mrZENographer:


Yes. Please read Isaiah 53 and get the confirmation. Also Jesus spoke SEVERAL TIMES of his death long before he died. If it didnt happen he would become a liar and a sinner. We wont be saying today that Jesus was sinless.

Yes. Spirit can manifest themselves physically. example angels and demons, even God appeared to Moses etc. But Jesus came through Mary because he have to be human to reconcile humans back to God. A sinner cannot save a sinner. A sinless person is required to save sinners.
hmmm. So jesus had known he will die before he died? Then why blaming innocent Judas? Pls let me ask u dis question, did God know the world will be like this before he created it?

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