Since we are as a Nation have decided to give 39 % of our income to our senators, House of Reps, Govenors, Ministers , state house of Assemby, LG Chairmen, councillors, ambassdors, e.t.c. The solution to Governors embezzleing huge sums of money from their states despite all the perks they already enjoy is troubling. And having analysed the Nigerian sitiuation, where most Governors does not even know the difference between public purse  and private purse in fact they are linked. If a proper audit is carried out on each of the 36 Governors of Nigeria one will realise that a Governor that has been in post for say 6 years, the last time they actually make any private expenses will equate to the number of years they have spent on that seat. The state takes care of all expenses even if the Governor sneezes and one of his aids buys him something to clear his nose the state will bear the cost of such mundane expenses.

That is why I have come to the conclusion that the state allocation from the federation account should be credicted to Governor's account, and from there it gets disbursed to the different ministries, departments, LG's e.t.c The reason behind this radical thought is the Governor of a state must be seen as the father of the states, and the citizens of the states seen as his children. How many fathers will delibrately let their childern starve to death. The Governor will play a more philantropical role which is how real African demoracy works. There is every likelyhood that the Governor will perform much better under this arrangement than the adopted western styled democratic method which was shoved down our throat by the colonilist. Elections cannot be rigged because it will lead to mau-mau style uprising like what happened in kenya during the colonial days.

What the Governors get away with today with the present status quo.

1. A Governor in northern Nigeria bought 2 lions to act as guard dog. How does a Governor do that in the current sitiuation, why was the expenses not queried by state house of assembly. Another example showing us that most Governor's can just wake up decide they want 2 giant mambas in the state house we might as well legalize their power. By legalizing we are practising African democracy.

2. Peter Odili accompanied OBJ to the UN a few years back, the story went as this OBJ in introducing Odili to Kofi Annah OBJ said if the UN needs fund this is the  Governor to see, he might be of help. This might just be a humourous joke, but the facts are clear most Governors have a carte blanche on expenses in their states and nobody really questions them. We might as well legalise it thats the way we have been practising our brand of democracy even b4 the white people came to africa. That way no hide and seek, some Governors having fake companies in other to defraud the states, the money is already in their account they can do what ever they like with, the tendency will be the reverse of what is happening today.

3. Ayo fayose went back to goverment house to claim about 5 luxury cars that he claims are his personal cars, we all know those cars where bought ekiti's money, but to let sleeping dogs lie, the current speaker of the house who is the acting Governor agreed to Fayose's demand. Another case of where does the public fund stops and private funds starts for Mr Governor its one big conumdrum that cannot be separated like siames twins. Another reasons why African Democracy as a solution to western styled Democarcy.

4. We should go back to what we had in 60's in the western and Northern regions there used to be 2 houses, the house of assembly and the house of Chiefs and it worked fanstatically. Just look at all the projects completed during the time. Adopting American styled democracy causes confusion than any progress. Even in the UK they still have the house of lords whose members are heridotory peers more like our Kings, Obas and Cheifs. There duty is any law passed by the house of commons will be reviewed by the house of lords for it to become law. If its not agreed by the house of lords it will not become law although the house of commons can always modify the bill and and pass it to the lord for a second reading.

5. LG Chairman builds Governor's lodge in his LG HQ, this might sound rediculous but when you have an August visitor in your area, we Africans we rather sleep on the floor than for our visitor to have any dis-comfort. But to those practising western democracy this is sheer waist of public fund, did western democracy stop the project from going ahead no, so whats the point practising it. We might as well practise African democracy if the Governor feels he needs 40 Governors lodge in his state thats what he gets, it is even acheivable under current  model anyway if any Governor so desire.

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If legalise corrpution , it will still only benefit about 0.01 % of the popultion of Nigeria. what is the ratio of people in government against population.

The money allocated to the states from the federal account is more or less the governor's money or how do you explain N2 billion withdrawn from Ekiti state's account just b4 the verdict on Oni. It means that if they want to withdraw every single penny they can. We might as well make it legitimate.

u don come again.

If legalise corrpution , it will still only benefit about 0.01 % of the popultion of Nigeria. what is the ratio of people in government against population.

I dont think so, the citizens of the state we see the Governor of the state as their father, the onuses will be on the Governor to repay its citizens for their loyalty. One clear example was Awolowo's free education in western Nigeria.

some people mennnnnnnnn just dnt know where to stop!!!

amara brain strom hah

Its people like you that has been brain washed by oyinbo people, we should go back to the way we use to do things before the advent of colonialism. Or how else can u explain why not a single African country is doing well with this western model, its just not working. My thesis was on Traditional African democracy. You see countries like Egypt they are using a style of goverment that is unique to that part of the world and as a result have the 2nd strongest economy in africa.

Guy if you want us to go back to the way we where before colonialism then nigeria has to divide.

Be ready to create up to 200 states for the different ethnic groups that make up the country.

the only think I will advocate for is the creation of more states so no group will be minority in any state

at what number do you stop. when all local govt. become states?

legalising corruption is like adding petrol to a burning fire, you know what that means.

It really does not matter how many states we have as the same money each constitute part gets is still the same. If for example oyo state is divided into 3 states, assuming they get 4 billion from the federal goverment, the re-alloaction to each constitute part will still be the same 4 billion only that certain areas based on population will get more than others. Whatever western states was getting in 1975 is what ogun, oyo, oshun, ekiti and ondo all combine together are getting today.

And why should they be allocated money by the federal govt when they must have been constituted?Why can't the generate funds themselves?

And why should they be allocated money by the federal govt when they must have been constituted?Why can't the generate funds themselves?

Why are the states in the current dispensation allocated money from the federal goverment. This thread is not about internal generated revenue.

IF CURRUPTION IS LEGALISED IN NIGERIA YOU AS A PERSON WOULDNT HAVE MONEY TO BROWSE IN THE CAFFEE ANY MORE
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the re-alloaction to each constitute part will still be the same 4 billion only that certain areas based on population will

you nail the problem on the head right there. there should be no allocation at all , each states , local govt. should find ways of generating finance internally and externally , which most idiots that rule nigeria can not devise. if money fail to come from federal govt. ala oil revenue which we dont need. then  we shall all think. then i wonder we will all have this laid back attitude to curruption, mis management, etc.

Corruption is illegal in Nigeria only to the extent that you relate to it officially or formally. Otherwise and for all practical purposes, it is very legal and tax free.

Other than the cosmetic measures of Obasanjo, no body goes to jail or get sanctioned for taking Govt money.Please understand this and save your breath. There is no better time and place to be a public official at any level. Corruption is already legal in Nigeria for all practical purposes.

Thats why I advocate the creation of more states, if we have as many 75 states it will weaken the central, the central must be weakened in a proper federal structure. The federal goverment should hand over all these items to the states.

1. Schools - FG should not be running schools including Uni
2. Industries
3. Airports
4. Roads there should be no federal roads, state roads e.t.c there should only state roads and LG road.
5. prisons
6. police we dont need IG of police for the whole nation, what we need is IG police for each state.
7.Courts

The only thing the FG must concern herself with immigration control, customs, armed forces, foerign affairs.


There will be a healthy rivary amongst the different states which will eventually lead to overall development of the whole nation like what happened in Europe in the 19th century . Little states Luxemborg and lichenstein created a niche markets for themselves by only concentrating on off shore financial dealings.

Quite ironic!

KnowAll:

IF CURRUPTION IS LEGALISED IN NIGERIA YOU AS A PERSON WOULDNT HAVE MONEY TO BROWSE IN THE CAFFEE ANY MORE


Thats why I advocate the creation of more states, if we have as many 75 states it will weaken the central, the central must be weakened in a proper federal structure. The federal goverment should hand over all these items to the states.

1. Schools - FG should not be running schools including Uni
2. Industries
3. Airports
4. Roads there should be no federal roads, state roads e.t.c there should only state roads and LG road.
5. prisons
6. police we dont need IG of police for the whole nation, what we need is IG police for each state.
7.Courts

The only thing the FG must concern herself with  immigration control, customs, armed forces, foerign affairs.


There will be a healthy rivary amongst the different states which will eventually lead to overall development of the whole nation like what happened in Europe in the 19th century . Little states Luxemborg and lichenstein created a niche markets for themselves by only concentrating on off shore financial dealings.

Good Idea. I also argued for something along the lines of this, but maybe the majority of Nigerians would rather wait until this administration magically cleanses itself. 

Little states Luxemborg and lichenstein created a niche markets for themselves by only concentrating on off shore financial dealings

However, comments above are ironic, as asha 80 pointed out. lol.

Why are the states in the current dispensation allocated money from the federal goverment. This thread is not about internal generated revenue.
Posted on: Today at 03:21:01 PMPosted by: KnowAll

This is why it is ironic.

Mr knowall tell me that nigeria did not witness the greatest development in its independent history when we where still existing as regions when every zone controlled and generated its own revenue and paid taxes to the center.

"Mr knowall tell me that nigeria did not witness the greatest development in its independent history when we where still existing as regions when every zone controlled and generated its own revenue and paid taxes to the center."

You are right, there was oil Nigeria even then but we did not know its true value not untill the Udoji awards of 1974. Armed with this new knowledge we have today and the realisation of the kind income a state can earn, I will doubt if any of the northern states and to a great extent a lot of even southern states will want us to go back to what we had in the 60's. Obviously rivers state and delta state will want each state to raise it revenue and contribute to the centre.

will doubt if any of the northern states and to a great extent a lot of even southern states will want us to go back to what we had in the 60's. Obviously rivers state and delta state will want each state to raise it revenue and contribute to the centre.

the more thoughts like this the more retrogressive we become. think how to generate revenue out of this stupud oil , then maybe we all will be involve in running our affairs cos as it is now we think inwardly its not my money being stolen.

You are right, there was oil Nigeria even then but we did not know its true value not untill the Udoji awards of 1974. Armed with this new knowledge we have today and the realisation of the kind income a state can earn, I will doubt if any of the northern states and to a great extent a lot of even southern states will want us to go back to what we had in the 60's. Obviously rivers state and delta state will want each state to raise it revenue and contribute to the centre.

The north can be extremely rich in a lot things like notably agriculture,tin bauxite,generate revenue from the various game reserves they have(like kenya and south africa),cotton but the kind of thinking you exhibit here will not allow this inward thought.

the more thoughts like this the more retrogressive we become. think how to generate revenue out of this stupud oil , then maybe we all will be involve in running our affairs cos as it is now we think inwardly its not my money being stolen.


Its true talk my brother, I will like us to go back to what we had in the 60's but a lot of Naija politicians will vote against such proposals,  they are use to the finer things of life now and have probably forgotten how to plant groundnut or grow cocoa

but the kind of thinking you exhibit here will not allow this inward thought.

This thread is about Legalizing corruption and not revenue alloaction formula, u will have to talk to your reps about that.

You have nothing to argue about if it is corruption u want to legalize.Since you want to become a politician start perfecting on how u will loot your constituency.