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The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 4:02pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Muslims become angry when they are
confronted with this fact. But history is not
on their side. Pre-Islamic literature has
proved this." ( Who Is This Allah ?, G. J. O.
Moshay, 1994, p 138)
"But history establishes beyond the shadow
of doubt that even the pagan Arabs, before
Muhammad's time, knew their chief god by
the name of Allah and even, in a sense,
proclaimed his unity...Among the pagan
Arabs this term denoted the chief god of
their pantheon, the Kaaba, with its three
hundred and sixty idols." ( The Moslem
Doctrine of God , Samuel M. Zwemer 1905, p
24-25)
In fact, he did not at first intend to establish
a new religion, but rather to reform the
belief in Allah which already existed, and to
show what this belief truly signified and
rightfully demanded . ( Mohammed: The man
and his faith , Tor Andrae, 1936,
Translated by Theophil Menzel, 1960,
p13-30)
The pre-Islamic origin of "Allah"
1. There is absolutely no question
that Allah was worshipped by the
pagan Arabs as one of many
polytheistic gods.
2. Allah was worshipped in the
Kabah at Mecca before Muhammad
was born. Muhammad merely
proclaimed a god the Meccans were
already familiar with. The pagan
Arabs never accused Muhammad of
preaching a different Allah than the
one they already worshipped.
3. Many scholars say "Allah" is derived
from a compound Arabic word, AL +
ILAH = Allah. "Ilah" in Arabic is
"God" and "Al" in Arabic is a definite
article like our word "the". So from
an English equivalent "Allah" comes
from "The + God". Others, like Arthur
Jeffery say, "The common theory is
that it is formed from ilah, the
common word for a god, and the
article al-; thus al-ilah, the god,"
becomes Allah, "God." This theory,
however, is untenable. In fact, the
name is one of the words borrowed
into the language in pre-Islamic times
from Aramaic." ( Islam: Muhammad
and His Religion, Arthur Jeffery, 1958,
p 85)
4. Although "Allah" has become
known as the proper name for the
Muslim god, Allah is not a name, but
a descriptor that means literally, "the
god". All pagan cultures have these
generic terms that refer to their "top
god" as "the god". In comparison to
the perfect monotheism of Judaism
and Christianity, "Allah" was
originally no more a proper name for
the Muslim God, than the word
Hebrew "elohim" (god) or Greek
"theos" (god) are proper names of the
one true God of the Bible. "Jehovah" is
the only revealed proper name for the
"Elohim" of the Old Testament ( Ex
3:13; 6:3) and "Jesus" is the only
revealed proper name of "Theos" in
the New Testament. (Acts 4:12) Islam
has no proper name for their god, but
merely transformed, by universal use
and confusion, the generic Allah into
a proper name. So although today,
Muslims use "Allah" as a proper
name, it was never used this way
originally. Allah, therefore is
equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos"
but not "Jehovah" or "Jesus". Allah is
not the name of the nameless Muslim
God. However Muslims will claim
that Allah is the name of God that
corresponds to Jehovah. Both the
Father and the Son are called "ho
theos" (The God). Jesus is called "The
God" many times in the New
Testament: John 20:28; Heb 1:8. An
important conclusion from this, is
that the mere fact that "Allah" is
equivalent to "elohim" and "ho theos"
does not mean they are directly
corresponded. It certainly doesn't
prove Allah is the same as the God of
the Old or New Testament. It does not
prove that Muslim's worship the same
God as Christians. If this
correspondence proved the Muslim
god was the same as the Christian
God, then because pagan religions
also have generics that correspond to
"the god" (Allah), this correspondence
would also prove that Allah is the
same god as the Buddhist god, for
Buddhists also refer to their god as
"the god". 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 4:19pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Very interesting and insightful analysis, nice one OP. So on top all their noise islamist don't even know the name of the idol they worship allah=the god 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by An2elect2(f): 4:34pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
I just know their all@h is not God. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 5:01pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
What do Arab Christians and Jews call God? ! 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 5:19pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Dunce you just confirmed that allah is a generic name for a god amongst Arabs irrespective of religion just as god is used in the english language. It's not a name for God but a generic term that was used by pagan Arabs 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 5:44pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Jagoon:just answer his question |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 6:11pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
BABAAGBALABA: Obviously you are not very smart arab christians call god allah as a generic term same way different english speaking people use the generic term god iRrespective of religion *editted |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 6:40pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Jagoon:Sanitary Pad, if Allah is what Arab Christians and Jews call God, so what's the point of creating this useless thread?! 3 Likes |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 6:59pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Dunce it means allah is not God's name but a generic term/title all Arabs call god whether they are christian, pagan or muslim. God's declared name is Yahweh |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 7:10pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Jagoon:To you it's Yahweh, to me it's Allah. Why must you criticize our way of calling God?! Better face your business because you can't force your ideology on us! Dumbness is just incurable, different languages call God different names. French call him "Dieu" in the Bible, yorubas call him "Olurun" or "Oluwa", Arabs call him "Allah" in both the Qur'an and Bible. So what's your stress actually? 3 Likes 1 Share |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 7:32pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Demmzy15: You are so dumb that you still don't get it, allah is simply the arabic title for god which as been in use before mohamed developed his version of the arabic pagan religions. In Hebrew gods are called elohims the same way Arabs call their gods allah but the hebrews have a separate name for the almighty and this name is Yahweh not some generic allah pagans called their gods before mohammed started his own racket. 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 8:59pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
Jagoon:nigga chillax, u don't even know what ur saying |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 10:28pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
BABAAGBALABA:he knows what is saying and this is what he meant ; that allah is blood sucking demon. That allah has no name the way and is generic name like "god"of iron,wood,sex,thunder or win . Do you get it. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by ymdo(m): 10:48pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
jcross19:What will you called a God whom you insist killed his son to save you? A blood spitting demon? 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by ymdo(m): 10:51pm On Aug 03, 2015 |
jcross19:What will you called a God whom you insist killed his son to save you? A blood spitting demon? Remove the mucus in your eyes first before trying to help others |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:05am On Aug 04, 2015 |
jcross19:I would love to see your face in hell. |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:07am On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon:This fool doesnt even know what he is saying. Dumb bastard 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by abduljabbar4(m): 3:12am On Aug 04, 2015 |
jcross19:What of ur useless non existing toy(god) whom you claimed to have killed his son to save you? Dreaming liars. If Jesus is lord because he had no father, what of Adam who had no father or mother? Keep decieving yourselves 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 4:04am On Aug 04, 2015 |
abduljabbar4:can you see that? The truth is that you can't even see me there not talk of hell. Terrorism is in your blood and if we should check you are with either knife or dynamite. No salvation in islam except jesus. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by jcross19: 4:10am On Aug 04, 2015 |
abduljabbar4:in HIS name all your jinns disappear, in HIS name all the malaika bow before HIM. Our God is not a toy and we don't have to carry knives , dynamites or any form of weapon to defend HIS name and HIS honour. So, get the fact we know who is serving toy, toothless and useless allah . If allah is powerful as you claimed let him/her defend his/herself. 2 Likes |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 7:20am On Aug 04, 2015 |
guy I think the Muslims should go online and do further research on their so called allah . it will shock you that its the moon these fellas are worshiping 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by kasend(m): 7:23am On Aug 04, 2015 |
my advice to the Muslims received Jesus Christ now for the forgiveness of your sins, if you want to make heaven. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by WailingWailer01(m): 7:31am On Aug 04, 2015 |
I hate muslims |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 7:45am On Aug 04, 2015 |
WailingWailer01: Hate the religion, don't hate the people else you will be just like them. 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 11:02am On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon:What's your problem with Arabs calling God whatever they won't to? Last time I remember there's a tribe that call God with the meaning "One who doesn't have an anus". That's what they call him, you can't impose your ideology on others. We are Yorubas, Arabs, Hausa not Hebrews, if you want to adopt Hebrew it's no one problem but you can't force Yahweh on others. What's amazing is that if Muslims call God Yahweh, you'll still be the same hypocrites shouting "plagiarism". You better think before you type fa 1 Like |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 11:19am On Aug 04, 2015 |
WailingWailer01: 1 Like
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Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 11:48am On Aug 04, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Gosh this guy is so daft, I can't believe it. The term god is an adjective just like allah is an adjective and elohim is an adjective. But is clear from scriptures that Yahweh is a noun. If you still don't get it, go suck a lemon |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by BABAAGBALABA: 12:26pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon:what are u even saying sef |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Demmzy15(m): 12:33pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon:See pot calling kettle black, indomie brain, what's your stress with Islam's way of calling God?! Must we follow your way, Allah has other names which reaches up to 99. Better face front o |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Samunique(m): 1:30pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Demmzy15:But they are all still TITLES not his real name. Just as Christian GOD has many titles, but His real name is YHWH, Yahweh , 'yah' "Jah" Jehovah which He revealed to moses . My name is Yahweh. Exodus 6:3. Even Abraham did not know Him by His real name, he knew Him only as Elohim And Adonai , meaning the Lord God Almighty, which is also generic. So try to understand the point raised in the OP, that Allah is no name, it's just a title like when one mentions Elohim or Adonai . |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by Nobody: 1:30pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Demmzy15: Yeah we know satan is one of his names |
Re: The Real Meaning Of Allah by mustymatic(m): 2:34pm On Aug 04, 2015 |
Jagoon:They copied it. It is Islamic. Period |
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