johnydon22:
[b] “Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he
writes; and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is
especially fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the
Supreme Being. For the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others,
man is master by divine right; the fear of God will therefore repress any
impulse towards revolt in the downtrodden female.”
Simone de Beauvoir – The Second Sex 1949

Islam, Christianity and Judaism are patriarchal, monotheistic religions and
are bound by one thing – their contempt of women!
When confronted with the issue of women’s plight in Muslim countries,
Muslim apologists insist that their religion has been misunderstood and that
Islam actually grants women certain rights. They blame tradition and tribal
societies for the low status and oppression of women.

Since Islam exerts absolute power over every aspect of Muslim society, from
diet to relations between the sexes, why has it failed in fourteen centuries of
its existence, to eradicate injustices against half of its adherents?

Turkey’s women are the most liberated in the Muslim world. This was
achieved not through Islamic reformation but through secularisation
established by the founder of the modern Turkish republic Kemal Ataturk.
Kemal was the product of secular education and had always admired Western
culture. He pursued a program of westernisation that affected all aspects of
Turkish life – women were granted the vote and veiling was prohibited.

If the Turkish system were to collapse and replaced by an Islamic theocracy we
can be certain that women’s progress will be reversed and women will be at
the mercy of the mullahs. In countries where there has been a raise in
fundamentalism and reversal to strict religious law such as Pakistan, Sudan
and Afghanistan women are targeted with vengeance and brutality.

Some Muslim scholars agree that Mohammed did proclaim some rights for
Muslim women. For example he abolished the pre-Islamic Arabian custom of
burying alive unwanted female infants. He also decreed that women could
own and inherit property, and that women have the right to enjoy sex!

However, he did enshrine women’s inequality and inferior status in immutable
Quranic law accepted by Muslims as the infallible word of God.
“Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to
the other, and because men spend their wealth to maintain them. Good
women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded
them. As for those among you who fear disobedience, admonish them and
send them to beds apart and beat them.” Sura 4:34.

“…Women shall with justice have rights similar to those exercised against
them, although men have a status above women. God is mighty and wise.”
Sura 2:228

Under Shari’a – Islamic law – a man can marry up to four wives. He can
divorce his wife or wives by saying “I divorce you” three times. For a wife to
obtain a divorce is usually very difficult. Muslim apologists claim that Muslim
women have the right to divorce and that in Islam the mother is revered and
respected. Upon divorce, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and
girls on the onset of puberty.

Many women would be reluctant to divorceviolent or polygynous husbands for fear of losing their children. Despite the exaltation of motherhood – Mohammed once told a follower that paradise isfound at the feet of the mother – children are considered the property of the father with the mother being merely the caretaker. How is it possible for a Muslim man to respect his mother when immutable religious law proclaims women’s inferiority and inadequacy?

Under the Shari’a, compensation for the murder of a woman is half the
amount of that of a man. A woman’s testimony in court is worth only half of
a man’s. Women are entitled to only half the inheritance of males; the
reason given for these is that males have families to provide for. In sura 4:34
men are granted superiority and authority over women because they spend
their wealth to maintain them, this implies that women are a burden on
society and that their work in caring for children, household and livestock is
insignificant and trivial.

Girls as young as nine can be married off by their father even if the mother
disapproves of the marriage, often they end up as second or third wives of
much older men – here is a way to instantly eradicate illegal paedophilia!
Conservative clerics have resisted moves to raise the minimum age for girls.
One of Mohammed’s wives, Aisha was seven when she was betrothed to
Mohammed and nine when the marriage was consummated, Mohammed was
in his fifties with several wives.

Any attempts by various governments to give women more freedoms, greater
property and marriage rights have been vehemently opposed by conservative
Islamists, who insist that the reforms are against Islam.

In the Qur’an the prescribed penalty for adultery is one hundred lashes and a
year in exile – sura 24:1. However, Mohammed did condemn people to be
stoned to death, in one case the rabbis brought a man and a woman
accused of adultery, Mohammed ordered the pair to be stoned to death. The
Jews practiced stoning for adultery and it is mentioned in the Old Testament
under Mosaic Law. Today many Islamic fundamentalists advocate the
stoning of women and stoning does occur in many Muslim countries.

In Muslim countries, men have the power of life and death over their women.
Honour-killers usually escape punishment and the ones that are tried and
convicted, receive only a few months in prison where they are treated like
heroes by other inmates. Honour killings are carried out by men against
women in their family for disobedience or suspected sexual transgressions.
Even women who have been raped are killed for defiling the family honour.

A 12-year old Jordanian girl returned home one evening from a walk with
some friends. She was confronted by her enraged father who was shouting
that she had dishonoured the entire family. He began beating his daughter
with sticks and iron chains until she died. He told the police that he killed
his only daughter because she went for a walk without his permission.
In Batsail, Bangladesh an 18-year old woman was flogged to death for
“immoral” behaviour on the order of Muslim Clerics.

A 16-year old Jordanian girl had her throat slit by her brother after having
been raped by another of her brothers.

An Egyptian father paraded his daughter’s severed head through the streets
shouting: “I have avenged my honour” .
A woman that is not a virgin on her wedding night is likely to be killed by
her male relatives..

Honour killings also occur among Arab Christians who claim that it is their
tradition. Tradition has always been religion’s ally in the subjugation of
women. Tradition and religion are the iron ball and chain that hinder
women’s progress.

In countries governed by the Shari’a a woman’s testimony is worth only half
of that of a man’s. In Pakistan since Islamisation, rape victims are charged
with “zina” – sex outside marriage – and are sent to prison.

In 1977 a Saudi princess and her lover were sentenced to death and
executed. The princess was separated from her husband and intended to
leave the country with her lover. The execution was captured on camera by a
British tourist and was televised all over the world.

In Saudi Arabia women are subject to many harsh restrictions. They are forbidden to drive and most jobs are denied to them.
The only evidence of their existence is the appearance of their name on their father’s or husband’s ID card. Whilewomen are expected to abide by a medieval and self-effacing moral code, Saudi men are importing planeloads of prostitutes from overseas and are buying sex- slaves from impoverished countries in addition to being permitted up to four wives.
The law on adultery usually applies only to women. Since men are permitted
up to four wives plus concubines they would hardly have the time for
“unlawful” sex! Recently there was a case in Nigeria of a woman accused of
sex outside marriage. She was sentenced to death by stoning while the man
she had sex with was not charged because there was not enough evidence
against him!

When Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians, women’s rights were
protected by law – much to the dismay of Islamists. When the Russians
withdrew Islamic fundamentalists went to work in eradicating any gains made
by women. The Taliban, a product of the Madrasah – fundamentalist
religious school where boys spend hours every day reciting and memorizing
the Qur’an – has taken the subjugation of women to new heights. Women
were barred from employment and girls are forbidden to attend school.

Women were also denied medical care because it was illegal for women to
be examined by a male doctor. Any woman caught in the company of a male
not related to her was sentenced to death and women were not permitted to
leave the house without being accompanied by a male relative. Some women
earned a small income by baking bread, when discovered by the Taliban they
were burned alive in their own ovens.

Islam’s psychotic obsession with female chastity, modesty and virginity has
rendered men incapable of viewing women as equal and worthy companions.
How can we expect these men to treat women decently when their religion
and culture forbids it! In fact, Muslim men can relax only when their foot is
firmly placed on their women’s necks!

“Women are not given the right to instigate divorce because they are prone
to emotional and irrational decision making. A husband, however, can divorce
his wife at any time he so wishes.” Ayatollah Ali Moghtadai


Considering and treating women as inferior creatures, is that good for the world? [/b]

timonski:
Lol@op. Do you really thhink women are equal to men?

johnydon22:
Yes very much equal to men

mustymatic:

Nope, they are not.

johnydon22:
Yes very much equal to men

johnydon22:
I didn't expect any less. . My Op was about Islamic misogynistic barbarism, am happy people didn't have to go far to see the example . . . You just provided us with one

dalaman:


Men and women deserve equal rights but men and women are not equal. Even men are not equal to one another, same with women, women are also not equal to one another. Men for example are usually bigger than women, stronger than women physical and emotionally. Men and women don't even see things the same way, the things that interest women are very different from the things that interest men and on and on.

By equal I mean EQUAL RIGHTS exactly. . .They are both different genders of the same species that deserves equal respect. . . Thanks for listing out the distinct characteristics bro

johnydon22:
I didn't expect any less. . My Op was about Islamic misogynistic barbarism, am happy people didn't have to go far to see the example . . . You just provided us with one

mustymatic:

Let's take a look at pregnancy then...and menstrual issues

So pregnancy and menstrual circle did what exactly

johnydon22:
So pregnancy and menstrual circle did what exactly

johnydon22:
[b] “Man enjoys the great advantage of having a god endorse the code he
writes; and since man exercises a sovereign authority over women it is
especially fortunate that this authority has been vested in him by the
Supreme Being. For the Jews, Mohammedans and Christians among others,
man is master by divine right; the fear of God will therefore repress any
impulse towards revolt in the downtrodden female.”
Simone de Beauvoir – The Second Sex 1949

Islam, Christianity and Judaism are patriarchal, monotheistic religions and
are bound by one thing – their contempt of women!
When confronted with the issue of women’s plight in Muslim countries,
Muslim apologists insist that their religion has been misunderstood and that
Islam actually grants women certain rights. They blame tradition and tribal
societies for the low status and oppression of women.

Since Islam exerts absolute power over every aspect of Muslim society, from
diet to relations between the sexes, why has it failed in fourteen centuries of
its existence, to eradicate injustices against half of its adherents?

Turkey’s women are the most liberated in the Muslim world. This was
achieved not through Islamic reformation but through secularisation
established by the founder of the modern Turkish republic Kemal Ataturk.
Kemal was the product of secular education and had always admired Western
culture. He pursued a program of westernisation that affected all aspects of
Turkish life – women were granted the vote and veiling was prohibited.

If the Turkish system were to collapse and replaced by an Islamic theocracy we
can be certain that women’s progress will be reversed and women will be at
the mercy of the mullahs. In countries where there has been a raise in
fundamentalism and reversal to strict religious law such as Pakistan, Sudan
and Afghanistan women are targeted with vengeance and brutality.

Some Muslim scholars agree that Mohammed did proclaim some rights for
Muslim women. For example he abolished the pre-Islamic Arabian custom of
burying alive unwanted female infants. He also decreed that women could
own and inherit property, and that women have the right to enjoy sex!

However, he did enshrine women’s inequality and inferior status in immutable
Quranic law accepted by Muslims as the infallible word of God.
“Men have authority over women because God has made the one superior to
the other, and because men spend their wealth to maintain them. Good
women are obedient. They guard their unseen parts because God has guarded
them. As for those among you who fear disobedience, admonish them and
send them to beds apart and beat them.” Sura 4:34.

“…Women shall with justice have rights similar to those exercised against
them, although men have a status above women. God is mighty and wise.”
Sura 2:228

Under Shari’a – Islamic law – a man can marry up to four wives. He can
divorce his wife or wives by saying “I divorce you” three times. For a wife to
obtain a divorce is usually very difficult. Muslim apologists claim that Muslim
women have the right to divorce and that in Islam the mother is revered and
respected. Upon divorce, fathers win custody of boys over the age of six and
girls on the onset of puberty.

Many women would be reluctant to divorceviolent or polygynous husbands for fear of losing their children. Despite the exaltation of motherhood – Mohammed once told a follower that paradise isfound at the feet of the mother – children are considered the property of the father with the mother being merely the caretaker. How is it possible for a Muslim man to respect his mother when immutable religious law proclaims women’s inferiority and inadequacy?

Under the Shari’a, compensation for the murder of a woman is half the
amount of that of a man. A woman’s testimony in court is worth only half of
a man’s. Women are entitled to only half the inheritance of males; the
reason given for these is that males have families to provide for. In sura 4:34
men are granted superiority and authority over women because they spend
their wealth to maintain them, this implies that women are a burden on
society and that their work in caring for children, household and livestock is
insignificant and trivial.

Girls as young as nine can be married off by their father even if the mother
disapproves of the marriage, often they end up as second or third wives of
much older men – here is a way to instantly eradicate illegal paedophilia!
Conservative clerics have resisted moves to raise the minimum age for girls.
One of Mohammed’s wives, Aisha was seven when she was betrothed to
Mohammed and nine when the marriage was consummated, Mohammed was
in his fifties with several wives.

Any attempts by various governments to give women more freedoms, greater
property and marriage rights have been vehemently opposed by conservative
Islamists, who insist that the reforms are against Islam.

In the Qur’an the prescribed penalty for adultery is one hundred lashes and a
year in exile – sura 24:1. However, Mohammed did condemn people to be
stoned to death, in one case the rabbis brought a man and a woman
accused of adultery, Mohammed ordered the pair to be stoned to death. The
Jews practiced stoning for adultery and it is mentioned in the Old Testament
under Mosaic Law. Today many Islamic fundamentalists advocate the
stoning of women and stoning does occur in many Muslim countries.

In Muslim countries, men have the power of life and death over their women.
Honour-killers usually escape punishment and the ones that are tried and
convicted, receive only a few months in prison where they are treated like
heroes by other inmates. Honour killings are carried out by men against
women in their family for disobedience or suspected sexual transgressions.
Even women who have been raped are killed for defiling the family honour.

A 12-year old Jordanian girl returned home one evening from a walk with
some friends. She was confronted by her enraged father who was shouting
that she had dishonoured the entire family. He began beating his daughter
with sticks and iron chains until she died. He told the police that he killed
his only daughter because she went for a walk without his permission.
In Batsail, Bangladesh an 18-year old woman was flogged to death for
“immoral” behaviour on the order of Muslim Clerics.

A 16-year old Jordanian girl had her throat slit by her brother after having
been raped by another of her brothers.

An Egyptian father paraded his daughter’s severed head through the streets
shouting: “I have avenged my honour” .
A woman that is not a virgin on her wedding night is likely to be killed by
her male relatives..

Honour killings also occur among Arab Christians who claim that it is their
tradition. Tradition has always been religion’s ally in the subjugation of
women. Tradition and religion are the iron ball and chain that hinder
women’s progress.

In countries governed by the Shari’a a woman’s testimony is worth only half
of that of a man’s. In Pakistan since Islamisation, rape victims are charged
with “zina” – sex outside marriage – and are sent to prison.

In 1977 a Saudi princess and her lover were sentenced to death and
executed. The princess was separated from her husband and intended to
leave the country with her lover. The execution was captured on camera by a
British tourist and was televised all over the world.

In Saudi Arabia women are subject to many harsh restrictions. They are forbidden to drive and most jobs are denied to them.
The only evidence of their existence is the appearance of their name on their father’s or husband’s ID card. Whilewomen are expected to abide by a medieval and self-effacing moral code, Saudi men are importing planeloads of prostitutes from overseas and are buying sex- slaves from impoverished countries in addition to being permitted up to four wives.
The law on adultery usually applies only to women. Since men are permitted
up to four wives plus concubines they would hardly have the time for
“unlawful” sex! Recently there was a case in Nigeria of a woman accused of
sex outside marriage. She was sentenced to death by stoning while the man
she had sex with was not charged because there was not enough evidence
against him!

When Afghanistan was occupied by the Russians, women’s rights were
protected by law – much to the dismay of Islamists. When the Russians
withdrew Islamic fundamentalists went to work in eradicating any gains made
by women. The Taliban, a product of the Madrasah – fundamentalist
religious school where boys spend hours every day reciting and memorizing
the Qur’an – has taken the subjugation of women to new heights. Women
were barred from employment and girls are forbidden to attend school.

Women were also denied medical care because it was illegal for women to
be examined by a male doctor. Any woman caught in the company of a male
not related to her was sentenced to death and women were not permitted to
leave the house without being accompanied by a male relative. Some women
earned a small income by baking bread, when discovered by the Taliban they
were burned alive in their own ovens.

Islam’s psychotic obsession with female chastity, modesty and virginity has
rendered men incapable of viewing women as equal and worthy companions.
How can we expect these men to treat women decently when their religion
and culture forbids it! In fact, Muslim men can relax only when their foot is
firmly placed on their women’s necks!

“Women are not given the right to instigate divorce because they are prone
to emotional and irrational decision making. A husband, however, can divorce
his wife at any time he so wishes.” Ayatollah Ali Moghtadai


Considering and treating women as inferior creatures, is that good for the world? [/b]

Simone de Beauvoir – The Second Sex 1949
Islam, Christianity and Judaism are
patriarchal, monotheistic religions and
[size=13pt] are bound by one thing – their contempt of
women! [/size]

Dekatron:
Honestly, if i were to choose a religion, i'd prefer CHRISTIANITY


Islam is so fvcked up. . .
My UNIVERSITY is Christian dominated though & the state i study in is also Christian dominated ( ONDO STATE). So am nt really feeling Islamic influence here. But my place gan gan(my father's house) is OYO STATE - Ibadan actually and I must say : its 7 muslims to 2 Christians.


AGAIN I SAY, ISLAM IS FVCKED UP

mustymatic:

Christianity is not practised... it's just going to church to pay pastors, but all their laws are not put in to practice that's why you think It's preferable.. but mehn if to say dem de practice am u fo fear

mustymatic:

Christianity is not practised... it's just going to church to pay pastors, but all their laws are not put in to practice that's why you think It's preferable.. but mehn if to say dem de practice am u fo fear

Dekatron:

Sir, with all due respect, OFFICIALLY, I AM A CHRISTIAN.

I THINK ITS BETTER THAN ISLAM.

mustymatic:

Christianity is not practised... it's just going to church to pay pastors, but all their laws are not put in to practice that's why you think It's preferable.. but mehn if to say dem de practice am u fo fear

Dekatron:

Sir, with all due respect, OFFICIALLY, I AM A CHRISTIAN.

I THINK ITS BETTER THAN ISLAM.

johnydon22:
By equal I mean EQUAL RIGHTS exactly. . .They are both different genders of the same species that deserves equal respect. . . Thanks for listing out the distinct characteristics bro

mustymatic:

Christianity is not practised... it's just going to church to pay pastors, but all their laws are not put in to practice that's why you think It's preferable.. but mehn if to say dem de practice am u fo fear

abduljabbar4:

If its better than Islam then why not practise it and leave others alone. It baffles me when I see you guys criticising indians when even ur own religion isn't true

Delusiongirl20:



Why do religions treat women as an inferior species?

Simple.

Because religion is of man, by man & for man.

GenderEquality