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Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by huxley(m): 9:05pm On Mar 24, 2009 |
davidylan: How can you tell if I lied? You do not think that you can say that. To lie is to be dishonestly conveying wrong information. This is what I said: davidylan: This is just a plain travesty of reasoning. Where does he get this figure from? The Shrimp has NOT NOT NOT been around for 400 million years. You cannot base you argument on so fallacious a claim and think you can get away with it. This is simply dishonest and wrong. When I saw you comments, I did not know how long shrimps/crustaceans have been around, nor did I go to check. What caught my attention was the 400 or 525 million years and I knew by feigning ignorance and skepticism, I could get you to reveal your hand about the issue of the young or old earth and whether you have credibility of the scientific processes. Which turned out to be 100% success on my part - I got you to admit acceptance of OLD EARTH and acceptable of the scientific process. It was all a bluff on my part for a GREAT result, I would say. I am prepared to accept the facts from the article you cite about the age of crustaceans, but before that I had absolutely no clue. But if you had asked me, it would taken me no more than about 10 minutes to retrieve it from one of my textbooks or other sources. On the issue of using sources - Yes I do use some YOUTUBE sources and they are now many professional experts who are using YT to reach a greater audience. Supposing the authors of your cited articles had presented their work in a video on YT, would you not have used it? If not, why not? |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by Nobody: 9:12pm On Mar 24, 2009 |
huxley: awww what a dishonest little creep. I'll just ignore you until you "feign ignorance" again. |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by bawomolo(m): 12:21am On Mar 25, 2009 |
we dont discuss evolution because it is simply rubbish. Great contribution One question though - why bring the bible into a scientific debate. Maybe i should counter with the koran. how logical |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by KAG: 9:28am On Mar 25, 2009 |
davidylan:1 "Possibly some type of class (or even classes) of protobiont preceded prokaryotes. As for the second question you may need to be clearer to prevent misunderstanding. I'll answer it as best as I interpret it. If you mean to ask where the chemicals that could have played a part in the origin of life originate, then it's likely that some were formed with the formation of the earth, while others may have been caused or brought by extraterrestrial bodies (by extraterrestrial, I don't mean space monsters, I mean things like rocks that become meteorites, etc)." No, in other words I'm not dogmatic about it. And yes, I'm not sure. There's nothing wrong with pointing towards what the evidence indicates but avoiding dogmatically stating it - that's how science works. Further, to reiterate a point I keep having to make, science doesn't do proof. Proof is for alcohol. On extraterrestial rocks, the sources for thos vary, from parts of other planetary bodies dislodged by impacts, to smaller pieces of space bodies crashing into each other and eventually getting caught in the Earth's orbit. What do you mean by "why was the earth chosen"? Every planet in our solar systme (and even beyond our solar system) are impacted by meteorites. The earth hasn't been the only one. Extraterrestrial bodies form in different ways, depending on the one in question. I've already given a couple of examples for stray rocky objects. The Earth was formed probably through accretion. We already discussed oxygen in an earlier thread and there's little need to go over it again. And you dare accuse us of basing our beliefs on mere faith? Shocked No, you base your beliefs on ignorance. Faith has nothing to do with much of what you do, I'm afraid.
Um, if you had bothered to carry on reading, you'd have seen the example I gave. No, it's not just transitionals that are rare, fossils in general are relatively rare.
What the hell are you on about? The last four threads? Other than this thread I don't remember mentioning transitionals in almost a year. In fact, why don't you show me where I mentioned dinosaur-birds transitionals or archeopteryx in the last four threads. I won't hold my breath. In any case, this would be you trying to use duplicity to avoid the example for a transitional for which you've been asking, would it? Other than probably a couple of the transitionals between humans and previous ancestors, this is as simple an example as you'll get, because much has been published and found about the dinosaurs-birds transition. So, there you go. [Quote]
In other words - you dont know, you're not sure, you're merely grasping at straws . . . and you accuse us of basing our entire beliefs on faith alone?[/quote] Deja vu. Someone played with the matrix? Not your best attempt at handwaving, though. [Quote]
to be expected when you run into the brickwall of your own denial.[/quote] Lol. So, I'm guessing your Morton's demon has helped you repress ERVs, too, eh? Mazel tov. |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by Nobody: 10:14pm On Mar 25, 2009 |
more hogwash from the our dear KAG. If anyone can find any grain of serious science there pls let me know. |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by bros1234(m): 7:50pm On Sep 05, 2009 |
i couldnt find money making ideas in all this . pls i am a sales man and need to make some sales. if you wouldnt mind see my signature.i just hope no one bashes me with all the big grammar here, cos i aint got the liver to talk back. i left my biology and english text books in liberia during the war |
Re: Why Are They Afraid To Debate Evolution? by Pygru: 1:51am On Aug 16, 2013 |
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