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US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by Nobody: 11:23am On Aug 11, 2015
Jacob recounts how God had promised to
make his seed “fruitful,” to “multiply” them,
thus making them a “multitude of people.”
These terms all pertain to the promise of
birthright. Nothing here suggests anything to
do with the “one seed,” and its relationship
to Christ and salvation. Notice that this is a
specific promise about possession of land.
Now verse 5 : “And now your two sons,
Ephraim and Manasseh, which were born unto
you in the land of Egypt before I came unto
you into Egypt, are mine; as Reuben and
Simeon, they shall be mine.” When
understood, Jacob is actually adopting
Joseph’s two sons as his own, as “mine.” This
allowed him to pass the birthright directly to
these two young boys—Manasseh as the
older, and Ephraim the younger ( 41:51; 48:1 ).
This last fact is crucial because Jacob
specifically mentioned Ephraim before
Manasseh.
Jacob then instructs Joseph to “Bring them, I
pray you, unto me, and I will bless them.
Now the eyes of Israel were dim for age, so
that he could not see” ( vs. 9-10 ). We should
note again that normally the birthright would
pass to the eldest son. Thus, the right hand
should be on the son to receive the greatest
inheritance since both were to share the
birthright blessing. God must intervene to
make it otherwise.
Now notice: “And he brought them near unto
him; and he kissed them, and embraced
them…and Joseph took them both, Ephraim
in his right hand toward Israel’s left hand,
and Manasseh in his left hand toward Israel’s
right hand, and brought them near unto
him” ( vs. 10, 13).
Once again, take note of two facts: (1)
Ephraim is blessed with the right hand,
putting him above Manasseh in birthright
inheritance, but (2) Manasseh also has
Jacob’s left hand on him, signifying a shared
but lesser birthright inheritance, as well!
Joseph’s Sons Receive Israel’s Name
In the next passage, to signify explicitly that
God’s blessing was to be passed to Ephraim
above firstborn Manasseh, Jacob crossed his
hands. Let’s read: “And Israel stretched out
his right hand, and laid it upon Ephraim’s
head, who was the younger, and his left hand
upon Manasseh’s head, guiding his hands
wittingly ; for Manasseh was the firstborn.
And he blessed Joseph, and said, God, before
whom my fathers Abraham and Isaac did
walk, the God which fed me all my life long
unto this day, The Angel which redeemed me
from all evil, bless the lads; and let my name
be named on them, and the name of my
fathers Abraham and Isaac; and let them
grow into a multitude in the midst of the
earth” (vs. 14-16 ).
This will be shown to be an absolutely
astounding prophecy, carrying truly
staggering implications for all the nations of
the world. We have just witnessed, directly
from the pages of the Bible, God’s original
promise to Abraham being passed directly to
Joseph’s sons, Ephraim and Manasseh! Jacob
said, “let my name be named on them” and
“let them grow into a multitude.”
Absolutely nothing in this account says
anything about Judah. He was neither
included nor apparently even present during
the proceedings! Why then do countless
millions of people who read the Bible not see
this—and acknowledge it?
Jacob specifically asked God, with hands on
both grandsons, to “Bless the lads.” This was
a joint blessing, conferred on both young boys
—now get this—having nothing to do with
Judah or any of his children. Together, the
descendants of Ephraim and Manasseh were
promised—actually prophesied—to expand
into a great multitude, consisting of the
“nation and company of nations” of Genesis
35:11.
I repeatedly urge readers, “Do not believe me
unless you can see it in your Bible!” I tell you
that now. These verses are most plain!
This account requires no interpretation from
me. It contains no symbolism, holding
mystery to all but the trained eye. Israel’s
name was to be placed on, carried by, the
sons of Joseph—not Judah!
Put another way, we now ask: Who does God
—not men!—identify as the people who are
Israel (nationally and ethnically) today?
Again, the answer is Ephraim and Manasseh,
not Judah! The modern nation of Israel, home
to the Jews who call themselves “Israelis,” is
not the nation God has told us actually
carries Israel’s name. Yet, the world and
virtually all Bible students remain deceived
on this point.
The theologians, churchmen, religionists and
supposed Bible scholars could know what you
have just learned. They could set aside their
prejudice and tradition, pick up their Bibles
and read these plain verses. But these
“leaders” refuse to do this and thereby reject
knowledge available to them, with countless
millions following them like the “blind leading
the blind.”
This need not include you!
Ephraim Above Manasseh
When Jacob crossed his hands, it confused
Joseph, who did not understand what was
occurring. He tried to get Jacob “straightened
out.”
Here is what happened: “And Joseph said
unto his father, Not so, my father: for this
[Manasseh] is the firstborn; put your right
hand upon his head. And his father refused,
and said, I know it, my son, I know it: he also
shall become a people, and he also shall be
great: but truly his younger brother [Ephraim]
shall be greater than he, and his seed shall
become a multitude of nations . And he
blessed them that day, saying, In you shall
Israel bless, saying, God make you as
Ephraim and as Manasseh: and he set
Ephraim before Manasseh ” ( vs. 18-20 ).
At this juncture, the prophecy takes on a
more specific direction. It is not just
generally applied to both, but separate
blessings are given to each grandson. In
other words, the great, wealthy, dominant
single “nation,” of Genesis 35:11, would
descend and grow from Manasseh. The even
greater, wealthier, more dominant “company
of nations,” here called a “multitude of
nations,” would spring from Ephraim.
I repeat, there is no sense whatsoever trying
to find these nations among the descendants
of Judah—nor, for that matter—from any
other of the twelve tribes of Israel. Also, this
cannot be fulfilled through Judah being the
single “nation,” and the other twelve tribes
the “company of nations.” Even the tribes of
Ephraim and Manasseh were not prophesied
to fulfill this promise anciently, during their
pre-captivity history. In fact, this did not
happen. Plainly, the promise of great
material prosperity, possession of the gates
of their enemies, enjoyment of the fatness of
the earth and other physical blessings were
only to go to Ephraim and Manasseh!
Jacob’s Prophecy for Judah
These promises were not fulfilled anciently.
To learn when and how they have been
fulfilled, we must examine the period
between the close of Bible history and our
time. This will be done later.
Any with eyes to see recognize that we are
in what the Bible calls the “last days.” We
have learned that God’s servants are able to
know what lies ahead. God offers many clues
in His Word for those with “eyes to see” and
“ears to hear.”
Soon after blessing Ephraim and Manasseh,
Jacob called his other sons before him. His
purpose was to tell each what their
descendants should become “in the last
days.” At this point, we will focus on just
Judah and Joseph. Because Joseph’s
descendants split into two tribes, Ephraim
and Manasseh, the Bible generally uses these
latter terms when referencing them. When
God speaks of the tribe of Judah, He uses
their name because they never split into two
or more tribes.
Let’s now see Jacob’s prophecy for the “last
days”: “And Jacob called unto his sons, and
said, Gather yourselves together, that I may
tell you that which shall befall you in the last
days…Judah, you are he whom your brethren
shall praise: your hand shall be in the neck of
your enemies; your father’s children shall
bow down before you. Judah is a lion’s
whelp: from the prey, my son, you are gone
up: he stooped down, he couched as a lion,
and as an old lion; who shall rouse him up?
The scepter shall not depart from Judah, nor
a lawgiver [the margin says “ruler, staff”]
from between his feet, until Shiloh come; and
unto Him shall the gathering of the people
be” (Gen. 49:1 , 8-10 ).
An explanation of Shiloh is necessary: It
means “the Messiah, Prince of Peace, or the
one seed of Abraham.” Shiloh is obviously a
reference to Christ.
Jacob’s Prophecy for Joseph
Here is what Israel prophesied collectively to
Ephraim and Manasseh, Joseph’s sons:
“Joseph is a fruitful bough , even a fruitful
bough by a well; whose branches [the margin
says “daughters”] run over the wall ” (vs. 22).
This prophecy obviously refers to the
multitude of people, great nation and
company of nations that Joseph would
become—having daughters (descendants)
that would “run over the wall.” A wall is
typically a boundary, in this case undoubtedly
a national boundary, with the descendants of
Joseph characterized as a colonizing people.
Recall that Ephraim and Manasseh were to
“grow into a multitude in the midst of the
earth” (Gen. 48:14, 16). These are a people
who would know almost no bounds in their
expansion around the world. Since the eart
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by plaetton: 12:36pm On Aug 11, 2015
Funny you haven't said anything about the lost tribes of Africa and specifically the lost Igbo tribes. sad

And by the way, shouldn't modern Jews be the ones crying about their supposedly lost tribes?

Are you, perhaps suffering from post slavery traumatic syndrome? undecided

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Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by Nobody: 1:48pm On Aug 11, 2015
plaetton:
Funny you haven't said anything about the lost tribes of Africa and specifically the lost Igbo tribes. sad

And by the way, shouldn't modern Jews be the ones crying about their supposedly lost tribes?

Are you, perhaps suffering from post slavery traumatic syndrome? undecided

Fool like u .

which African country or igbos have prospered the way this mentioned countries have. to justify them as lost tribes or isrealites
Guy go and read your bible leave koran alone
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by plaetton: 1:53pm On Aug 11, 2015
dozieamadi:


Fool like u .

which African country or igbos have prospered the way this mentioned countries have. to justify them as lost tribes or isrealites
Guy go and read your bible leave koran alone
Brainwashed mo.ron,
I read biology, physics, chemistry and astronomy books.

Its religious re.tards like you that tune your brain to stone-age fairy tales from the middle east.

Who is the fool here?
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by gatiano(m): 2:05pm On Aug 11, 2015
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxax lol. devils are the lost tribe of israel. which of the united states o? The indiginous or the savage thieves?
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by Karlovich: 4:55pm On Aug 11, 2015
Op which americans. The natives? The whiteys that slaughtered them? The wetbacks or the niggaz
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by Nobody: 9:56pm On Aug 17, 2015
plaetton:

Brainwashed mo.ron,
I read biology, physics, chemistry and astronomy books.

Its religious re.tards like you that tune your brain to stone-age fairy tales from the middle east.

Who is the fool here?


Guy you are a big fool .U claim to know but u know nothing. u are just a hypocrite u only wished it was ur illusion ,Africa or Igbos. Mind u i don't believe everything written here. but been intelligent and logical means u ask questions.
and seek answers .of course anything not supported or written in the bible is not accepted. you claim to read a lot .

Check this website

rcg.org/books/aabibp.html


And reason for yourself if you have brain.
Re: US And Britian The Lost Tribes Of Israel by plaetton: 10:00pm On Aug 17, 2015
dozieamadi:



Guy you are a big fool .U claim to know but u know nothing. u are just a hypocrite u only wished it was ur illusion ,Africa or Igbos. Mind u i don't believe everything written here. but been intelligent and logical means u ask questions.
and seek answers .of course anything not supported or written in the bible is not accepted. you claim to read a lot .

Check this website

rcg.org/books/aabibp.html


And reason for yourself if you have brain.

Lol.
Did I hear say anything not written in the bible is not supported supported? shocked

Oh gosh.

Why is this country producing sooo many braindead people?

Sorry, you and I are definitely not in the same universe.

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