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| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by naijaking1: 3:05pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
@Promise72 I recal you tried to push back at this thread: https://www.nairaland.com/nigeria/topic-251650.0.html, where I had warned people to beware of certain vehicles. Are you really happy for the work OYENIT is doing? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by rebony(f): 3:22pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
THIS WHAT THEY CALL "IN YOUR FACE" |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by rebony(f): 3:24pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
WHY DOES THE MONITOR KEEP DELETING MY POSTS  DID I SAY SOMETHING WRONG AGAIN??FIRST POST @Mr monitor_1 whhy are we trying to make a turn around on the rules in the auto section ?your thread link you posted was put up by Seun(the admin) on the 30th of July 2005,that states in very simple words the rules that guides the forum,Jesarmy came up with the suggestions on the Auto section and there were some rules also listed so as to guide the auto section,which was accepted in general by everyone.it was openly agreed that there should be no derailment of threads and if you read this, please maybe there is a speck in my eye, but i know there are planks in other people eyes,Dear Nairalanders, May I seize this opportunity to appeal to everyone in the house especially those who are in the habit of derailing car adverts intentionally cum unintentionally,truth is the advert is derailed all the same. My proposition would be that when an advert is posted and the seller have included the vin# of the car,if on checking the vin report of the vehicle we notice a discrepancy on the vin report and the seller's advert,I think the first point of call should be to email the seller on the discrepancy and give him or her a chance to rectify it before bringing it to the open forum. I believe it is a good thing to protect the buyer but at the same time we should not do it in a way to pull down the seller's business.Please let us be our brother's keeper and go about correcting each other in an atmosphere of love and mutual respect. Thank you and God Bless, Jesarmy Smiley Smiley your mail you sent to me reads that you only check threads that have been reported to the moderator,why is that so?? SECOND POST DID YOU SEND THE SAME MAILS YOU SENDING ME TO GESTAPO,WWHEELZ AND PROMISE72?? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 3:42pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
rebony: [b]rebony, This is much better. I deleted those posts because they did not belong on Carshopper's thread and I told you to start your own thread if you have particular issues that are unrelated to the dealer's car. To answer your question, thread derailment should be discouraged since the posts involved would usually be unproductive communications, which are specifically in violation of forum rules. As a moderator, I intervene when I read such a post, or once my attention is called upon, when such a derailment is occuring. I don't recall anyone reporting a post to the moderator in the last 24 hours. Please don't hesitate to press the "report to moderator" whenever you see a need. I also try to use PM and other subtle means to communicate with forumites. We need to encourage as many dealers as possible, we want everyone to be successful. Every dealer is also entitled to defending him/herself when confronted with accusations such as blatant odometer rollback. Let's just strive to keep our communications clean. Monitor_1[/b] |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by rebony(f): 4:30pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
Hmm,lovely words from our monitor!!did not expect anything less |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 4:48pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
Hmmm, carshopper AKA rebony - Your hmmmm is a dead giveaway  |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by promise72(m): 4:50pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
naijaking1: You got it wrong pal. I wasnt trying to push backon anything. There is nothing wrong with Salvage vehicles. As long as its properly repaired. Salvage vehicles are drive here in the US everyday. Why this issue is different is the odometer rollback that these guys are doing. That is theft. That is deceit. That is wrong. There was a Lexus Jeep that rolled back as much as 75,000 miles!  Another Camry was rolled back as much as 100,000 plus miles. Why i really commend Oyenit is the fact that he went thru all the posting and actually posted all the VIN records. That takes a lot of time and efforts. It goes back to my point of tryin to get something for nothing. Remember i said that? The impression that vehicles are cheap here is what will make these sellers fall prey. They want all the features on the car (leather, A/C, Navigation etc etc) and dont wanna pay much. That is where the problem lies. |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by promise72(m): 4:54pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
rebony: What do i have to do with this? Mr Rebony? Please keep my name out ur mouth. |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by rebony(f): 5:00pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
@promise72 and wwheelz trying to put shift accusations promise72 now trying to defend yourself.do you want me to show you another hmm??wwheelz: you just said hmmm! |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by oyenit(m): 5:11pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
jazes here is the history Vehicle Information: 2001 TOYOTA SEQUOIA LIMITED 5TDZT38A91S051380 4 DR. WAGON/SPORT UTILITY 4.7L V8 FI DOHC 32V REAR WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment | Safety Options Search for other 2001 TOYOTA SEQUOIA vehicles in Brampton, ON DOES NOT qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee Branded Titles: Salvage, Not Actual Mileage Vehicle at automotive recycler facility 3 Previous owners 1 Service record available 14 Detailed records available A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car. The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Year purchased 2001 2004 2005 Type of owner Personal --- --- Estimated length of ownership 2 yrs. 2 mo. 1 yr. 3 mo. 2 yrs. 8 mo. Owned in the following states/provinces Georgia Georgia Georgia Estimated miles driven per year --- --- --- Last reported odometer reading 2,120 11,527 1 CARFAX guarantees the information in this section Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt No Problem No Problem Alert! Problem Found Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon No Problem No Problem No Problem Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits No Problem No Problem Alert! Problem Found Alert! Severe problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). This vehicle does not qualify for the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee. Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Total Loss Check No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported No Issues Reported No Issues Reported Structural / Frame Damage Check No structural / frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported No Issues Reported No Issues Reported Airbag Deployment Check No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported No Issues Reported No Issues Reported Odometer Rollback Check See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. No Issues Indicated No Issues Indicated Alert! Problem Found Accident / Damage Check See State DMV-reported Title Problems above. Accident reported on 12/25/2007. Vehicle was at automotive recycler facility on 03/20/2008. No Issues Reported No Issues Reported Alert! Problem Found Manufacturer Recall Check Check with an authorized Toyota dealer for any open recalls. No Recalls Reported No Recalls Reported No Recalls Reported Basic Warranty Check Original manufacturer warranty likely voided by manufacturer after vehicle was severely damaged. Warranty Active Warranty Active Warranty Voided Tell us what you know about this vehicle Looking for other 2001 TOYOTA SEQUOIA LIMITED vehicles like this one in your area? Search CARFAX Hot Listings for an up-to-date list of vehicles in your area, all with the CARFAX Buyback Guarantee! A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 6 billion vehicle history events and found 14 record(s) for this 2001 TOYOTA SEQUOIA LIMITED (5TDZT38A91S051380). Purchased: 2001 Type: Personal Where: Georgia Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 11/8/01 - 1/21/04 (2 yrs. 2 mo.) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 06/18/2001 NICB Vehicle manufactured and shipped to original dealer 11/08/2001 2,120 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Atlanta, GA Title #6340013256016 Title issued or updated Registration issued or renewed First owner reported Registered as personal vehicle Purchased: 2004 Where: Georgia Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 1/21/04 - 4/28/05 (1 yr. 3 mo.) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 01/21/2004 11,005 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Atlanta, GA Title #609493040217907 Title issued or updated New owner reported 04/18/2005 11,292 Georgia Inspection Station Passed emissions inspection 04/28/2005 11,527 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale 05/04/2005 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Savannah, GA Vehicle purchase reported 05/05/2005 Dealer Inventory Vehicle sold Purchased: 2005 Where: Georgia Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 5/20/05 - 2/15/08 (2 yrs. 8 mo.) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 05/20/2005 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Savannah, GA Title #779539051400003 Title issued or updated Registration issued or renewed New owner reported Loan or lien reported 10/27/2005 17,829 Chatham Parkway Toyota Savannah, GA 912-231-2020 www.chathamparkwaytoyota.com ww.chathamparkwayto yota.com Drivability/performance checked 08/24/2007 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Savannah, GA Title #779539051400003 Registration issued or renewed Duplicate title issued 12/25/2007 Georgia Police Report Accident reported in Savannah Involving front impact Vehicle towed 02/15/2008 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Macon, GA Vehicle purchase reported 03/03/2008 1 Georgia Motor Vehicle Dept. Macon, GA Title #406543080631904 Duplicate title issued SALVAGE TITLE/CERTIFICATE ISSUED NOT ACTUAL MILEAGE TITLE ISSUED CARFAX Advisor™ A NAM title is issued when the owner discloses to a DMV mileage fraud, a broken odometer or that the actual mileage of this vehicle is unknown. Mileage reported after this reading is potentially unreliable. 03/20/2008 Automotive Recycler Savannah, GA Vehicle at automotive recycler facility CARFAX recommends checking for damage during your pre-purchase inspection. |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by oyenit(m): 5:13pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
wezoo01 Vehicle Information: 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY/LE/XLE/SE 4T1BE46K67U047199 SEDAN 4 DR 2.4L L4 FI DOHC 16V FRONT WHEEL DRIVE Standard Equipment | Safety Options Search for other 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY vehicles in Brampton, ON No accident / damage reported to CARFAX CARFAX 1-Owner vehicle Personal vehicle Last owned in Florida 8 Detailed records available 65,526 Last reported odometer reading A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. Other information about this vehicle, including problems, may not have been reported to CARFAX. Use this report as one important tool, along with a vehicle inspection and test drive, to make a better decision about your next used car. The number of owners is estimated by CARFAX Year purchased 2006 Type of owner Personal Estimated length of ownership 2 yrs. 8 mo. Owned in the following states/provinces Florida Estimated miles driven per year --- Last reported odometer reading 65,526 CARFAX guarantees the information in this section Salvage | Junk | Rebuilt Guaranteed No Problem Fire/Flood | Hail Damage | Buyback/Lemon Guaranteed No Problem Not Actual Mileage | Exceeds Mechanical Limits Guaranteed No Problem GUARANTEED - None of these major title problems were reported by a state Department of Motor Vehicles (DMV). If you find that any of these title problems were reported by a DMV and not included in this report, CARFAX will buy this vehicle back. Register | View Terms Not all accidents or other issues are reported to CARFAX Total Loss Check No total loss reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Structural / Frame Damage Check No structural / frame damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Airbag Deployment Check No airbag deployment reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Odometer Rollback Check No indication of an odometer rollback. No Issues Indicated Accident / Damage Check No accidents or damage reported to CARFAX. No Issues Reported Manufacturer Recall Check Check with an authorized Toyota dealer for any open recalls. No Recalls Reported Basic Warranty Check Original warranty estimated to have expired. View Info Interested in an extended warranty? Warranty Expired Tell us what you know about this vehicle Still looking? Find similar cars just listed for sale in your area. Let us do the work! Get daily updates of TOYOTA CAMRY vehicles for sale in your area. Email: Zip: 2008 TOYOTA CAMRY CE/LE/XLE/SE Body Style: Sedan 4 DR Engine Type: 2.4L L4 FI DOHC 16V Free CARFAX Report Mississauga Motor Mart Distance: 3.71 mi Contact Dealer 2008 TOYOTA CAMRY CE/LE/XLE/SE Body Style: Sedan 4 DR Engine Type: 2.4L L4 FI DOHC 16V Free CARFAX Report Mississauga Motor Mart Distance: 3.71 mi Contact Dealer 2008 TOYOTA CAMRY CE/LE/XLE/SE Body Style: Sedan 4 DR Engine Type: 2.4L L4 FI DOHC 16V Free CARFAX Report Mississauga Motor Mart Distance: 3.71 mi Contact Dealer A CARFAX Vehicle History Report is based only on information supplied to CARFAX. CARFAX checked over 6 billion vehicle history events and found 8 record(s) for this 2007 TOYOTA CAMRY/LE/XLE/SE (4T1BE46K67U047199). Purchased: 2006 Type: Personal Where: Florida Est. miles/year: --- Est. length owned: 7/3/06 - 3/3/09 (2 yrs. 8 mo.) Date: Mileage: Source: Comments: 06/26/2006 NICB Vehicle manufactured and shipped to original dealer 07/03/2006 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Homestead, FL First owner reported Registered as personal vehicle 07/03/2006 10 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Homestead, FL Title #0096352845 Odometer reading reported 07/25/2006 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Homestead, FL Title #0096352845 Title issued or updated Registration issued or renewed Registered as personal vehicle Loan or lien reported Vehicle color noted as Black 09/01/2007 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Homestead, FL Title #0096352845 Registration issued or renewed Registered as personal vehicle Loan or lien reported Registration updated when owner moved the vehicle to a new location Vehicle color noted as Black 08/30/2008 Florida Motor Vehicle Dept. Homestead, FL Title #0096352845 Registration issued or renewed Registered as personal vehicle Loan or lien reported Vehicle color noted as Black 03/03/2009 65,526 Dealer Inventory Vehicle offered for sale 03/03/2009 Largo Honda Florida City, FL 786-545-1200 www.largohonda.com Vehicle sold |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 5:15pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
The summary of the matter is this: Fraudsters do not make headway Selling cars is a multi-million naira business, due diligence should be the norm, not the exception  If you claim to be a carshopper or seller or broker or dealer, the least you can do is use your credit card (issued by some Nigerian banks) to obtain a vehicle history report, specify if you're using Carfax or Autocheck (info is sometimes contradictory depending on which you are using) and VERIFY the mileage. It takes a lot of time and effort to build a reputation but it takes a lot less time and effort to destroy it. Anyone who has anything to say to me, feel free to say it on this thread or create another thread. Very truly yours, wwheelz  |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Carshopper(m): 5:33pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
selling cars is a huge business and pple know that. even dealers at the popular berger car lots, and we still get bad cars from there and funny pple still visit there, not alone berger sef, opebi, maryland and others, so if you come to nairaland you learn a lot cause everyone here is out to teach, correct, fight and be friends again , like my friend wwheelz, i call him my friend cause that is what he is, a friend, "a friend is one who would tell you, GUY YOU F, UP" and that that is what he has been doing all day, druming it into my ears that GUY you gud and i dont expect LESS from you   |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Igwe9(m): 8:07pm On Mar 28, 2009 |
@Carshopper You know why I like you . . . . cos you always look at the good side of your friends.Keep it up brother, but always double check your cars' history before posting now that all eyes on you , so you can't afford to disappoint. Regards, Igwe |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Jesarmy(f): 3:29am On Mar 29, 2009 |
@Oyenit, I would like you to know that you are doing a great service and it is well appreciated ,however I would like to make a suggestion on how this service can be improved upon when it is being done for a dealer that has not solicited for it. If it is not too much of a problem can you kindly send the report directly to the dealer and give them a chance to rectify any error/disrepancy they might have posted in their ad against the carfax report. However if after private notification the seller ignores to clean up the unintentional or intentional mistake then let the sheriff do the job and post it on the open forum. If this approach is followed it would save a sincere dealer a lot of embarrasment,thread derailment and all sorts as was the case with this ad.It would promote peace,provide constructive criticism and an atmosphere of genuine friendliness. Once again I sincerely appreciate your effort in keeping the forum clean because my firm believe is that "righteousness exalts a nation but sin is a reproach to any set of people"and "whatsoever a man sows,that he would reap". |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Jesarmy(f): 3:48am On Mar 29, 2009 |
Jesarmy:I had to repost this because I could not find the modify button @ moderator what 's up ? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 1:42pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Jesarmy: Jesarmy, the site is currently experiencing a technical problem which is responsible for the anomaly of the "modify" button. For now, users will have to post another reply in lieu of modifying an existing post. Monitor_1 |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by naijaking1: 2:27pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Jesarmy: Your advice is very dishonest and self-serving. Why would you not want the forum to see how unscrupulous some of these car dealer can be? Despite this modern age of rapid information technology, some people still go on with business-as-usual-way of decieving illitrate and uninformed Nigerian public. |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 8:14pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Waoh! I quit selling cars on this forum because I cannot compete with dubious people who sell cars here for the same price I buy cars from U.S. By the time I add the shipping and clearing cost, the vehicle is like 700,000 naira more than the price a person who buys salvaged cars would sell his own. These people need to be checked out and banned from selling cars on this site because it is not fair when you put a salvaged car on this site without declaring it is a salvaged. Some of them even even roll back odometer. Some even post VIN Number of another car of the same brand they trying to sell. It is not just fair to people who buy clean tittle cars and try to do clean business. Just declare your car is salvage if it is. Don't give excuse of somebody gave the car to me to sell. Make sure you check the Carfax Vin Report before you post a car for sale. If you are found to be dubious and deceitful, then you should be banned from selling on this forum. Oyenit Please keep up the good work. God bless! |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by bigbumper(f): 8:28pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
The plot thickens  The-moderator-that-elder-Igwe1-foretold-was-gonna-come-to-monitor-us, oya come and delete this post, and post your "rules" too, as usual I love setting my watch by he/she/it |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Igwe9(m): 8:33pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
big_bumper: Hello! |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by bigbumper(f): 8:53pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Igwe.: My darling lolo was not due back for the next 3 months na, ooohhhh, what am I going to do with Tayo_D that is staying till Easter now  My one and only lolo, it wasn't me, I swear  Okay okay okay I promise to be good, but can't we all just get along and be our brother's keepers  Helep me talk to your pipu na, my lolo  Enough of all these Sanitisation Officers, There are ways to do things and this is not it for God sake Let us all join hands and restore faith in human kind and our great nation Nigerian in particular, people are watching for crying out loud |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Omolabi1: 9:00pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
rebony: We all need to support nairalanders like oyenit who ventured to expose cheats among vehicle dealers here. His effort is highly commendable and he should not succumb to cheap blackmail. We must all join in the battle to weed out unscrupulous dealers from this forum |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by naijaking1: 9:03pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
big_bumper:You make me want to hallo! There're other ways of doing things like covering them up? Never tire joining hands to cover up bad things for naija, yet? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Igwe9(m): 9:05pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
big_bumper:You know I love you, but going by your profile picture . . . . waawu!. . . it's disgusting. Need I say more, Nairalist is there to protect the unscrupulous dealers but for nairaland. . . , Sorry it's big( bumper to bumper). How was your wkend? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by bigbumper(f): 10:45pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Igwe.: Since some people would never fail to remind some dealers on here that they are "middlemen", hence are not the owner of the cars they are selling, I am sure I am not the only level headed person here who thinks it is wrong to witchhunt such people and run them to the ground under the guise of "protecting" NL'ers  Anyway sha, each to their own . . . whatever floats their boats . . . On a lighter note, I am fine thank you my lolo, my weekend got messed up because I forgot that the clocks was supposed to go forward today But I thank God sha, I woke up this morning hale and hearty so I can't complain, tomorrow is another day Igwe.: When we married it was for better for worse so you have to kiss those lips whether you like it or not FOREVER Oya lets go to bed jooo and let me show you the magic of those succulent lips I missed your presence here too and kinda left when you did too, but I am glad to have you back and hope you are here to stay for good I don't want to appear like a typical naija woman with longthroat but why don't you and I fly over to Paris tomorrowfirstclass of course with all expenses on you for a few days to celebrate your return Or if that is a short notice, send me alone to Milan with your black credit card |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by promise72(m): 11:24pm On Mar 29, 2009 |
Its a funny thing in Nigeria that anyone trying to do a good deed is always under a threat of being run out of town. I am glad that Oyenik doesnt live in Nigeria cos i am sure that ppl will have showed up at his door with thugs if they know where he/she lives. All he did is post the VIN report of vehicles posted for sale. He didn't make up the VIN. Facts will be facts regardless of if we wanna face it or not. I am very glad that this VIN is not being recorded Nigerians. It wouldn't even worth the paper its written on. It takes a deliberate and concerted effort to roll back odometer. SOMEONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOING!. I am not even faulting the sellers at this point. Even its possible that the person who bought it in the US was duped too. But as a dealer/seller, the fact remains that YOU ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT U SELL!. Period.! Regardless. If someone loan you a car and police find drugs or dead body in the boot, the fact remains that you are in possession of that car at that point. You are responsible. The issue is not whether salvage or not, HONESTY about the product is the issue here. If i am a buyer, i want to know correct mileage cos of maintenance issues like timing belt. Why should i pay like N5m for a car only for timing belt to go in a year cos i am not aware of correct mileage? That will be an expensive fix. May be the sellers should do a good job of checking before posting vehicle. Nairaland auto section didnt get here one day. WE GREW TO IT. Requesting VIN wasn't a criteria before until, So as double checking VIN wasn't the"in" thing before but it will be in a minute. Everybody don shine eyes So back off OYENIT. Hes doin a fabulous job. More blessing |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Jesarmy(f): 1:00am On Mar 30, 2009 |
@Oyenit, I have no problem with you posting carfax reports and exposing fraudulent dealers,in fact I support it wholeheartedly. The suggestion I made was to foster peace and give sincere dealers who have made genuine mistakes an opportunity to correct it before it is brought to the open forum.Note I did not say dont bring it to the open forum and you should also notice the use of the word sincere dealers.I believe there is hardly any body who has not made a sincere mistake on the job at one time or the other and I do not think we would be very happy if our first point of notification would be at a departmental meeting or the GM's office . Since my suggestion seems dishonest and self serving in your own opinion by all means go ahead with your style of doing things,I have no quarell with it .Like I said before a man would reap whatsoever he sows.@all, Let me make myself clear,I am not in any way supportive of fraudulent dealers who deliberately continue to post ads that are in discrepancy with carfax reports to mislead buyers.VIN disclosure is a must on the forum and if by extension forumites would like carfax reports to be included as a rule on car ads,I am for it. Shalom, Jesarmy |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 1:01am On Mar 30, 2009 |
promise72: Seconded! It's called DUE DILIGENCE. Being a middleman is no excuse, you put your name and reputation out there when you sell. If you are not sure about the vehicle history, make concerted efforts to get it - even Nigerian banks issue credit cards. All you need to obtain Carfax or Autocheck is a credit card, for crying out loud. If you proclaim yourself to be in the business of selling cars, consider cost of obtaining the report part of your business expenses. It's approx USD55 for unlimited reports for 30 days. If you can't/won't get the history, you can indicate that on your advert but be ready to experience buyers angst - not fair, but that's life. Whether you are a professional middleman or dealer is beside the point, if you claim to be a professional whatsoever then the least you can do to build and protect your name is know your product. Being a middleman is no excuse for odometer rollbacks, nobody knows the lagbaja or tamedu who gave you the car, you are it!! There continues to be a market for salvage vehicles, ask for the accident report prior to importation as that will detail what went on. The key to selling salvaged vehicles is to reflect their history/status in their price. A salvage vehicle could be a simple fender bender or it could be a lot worse. Salvage get level!!! |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Jesarmy(f): 1:12am On Mar 30, 2009 |
@wwheelz, I am not sure if a naija based car seller can register an account with carfax,I am talking zipcode and a us based address,let me know if you have an info regarding this. |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by Nobody: 1:32am On Mar 30, 2009 |
Jesarmy: In that case, I stand corrected. So, for the Naija-based car dealers, what's the way forward? My suggestion above was: If you can't/won't get the history, you can indicate that on your advert but be ready to experience buyers angst - not fair, but that's life.i.e buyers may automatically assume the worst. Please understand me clearly, I'm not saying (and have never said) don't sell salvaged vehicles. Most budgets for purchase on this site are afterall, in the salvaged car region because money is hard to come by for the average Nigerian. All I'm saying to sellers is know your product by checking the history. "I didn't know" is only good for one try, not multiple incidents. It's simply about taking ownership. Having said that, I'm sure most people would agree that you're not into wayo yourself. As you said (or maybe it was someone else), a seller can make a mistake. The frequency of occurence is the issue, two times is one too many but three, four, five?? |
| Re: There's A New Sherrif In Town. Oyenit Is The Name. Bigups. by bigbumper(f): 1:39am On Mar 30, 2009 |
The self-appointed saviour of the pity party, his eminent personality Master Oyenit is only able to do His jawdroppingly-outstandingly-out-of-this-world-servicesarcasm intended solely because the VIN number was already provided. People that provide free checks in this section are ten-a-penny, so anyone who wants to buy a car and requests for a VIN check from one those providing it out of their good heart would PICK UP THE SAME INFORMATION THAT MASTER OYENIT THE DEFENDER OF THE DEFENCELESS IS PROVIDING, ABI NO BE SO I know witchhunting when I see one, anyone who has a problem with my observation can go kiss a powergrid or go bite a livewire for all I care |
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