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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:39pm On Aug 12, 2020
I don’t have a weight scale onsite, this was sold to me as 25 ton and for N100K. My bricklayer and I are satisfied.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:41pm On Aug 12, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I don’t have a truck scale at my site but I pay N15K per 10 tons. Omi Adio Ibadan. Bought 40 tons yesterday.

I want to buy 80 tons of plaster sand tomorrow. Can I have the number of the your supplier sir?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 8:43pm On Aug 12, 2020
I'd been an ardent follower of this forum particularly this section, I have learnt alot, infact, I'm undergoing a project at currently at window level in Osun..
I am at cross road with this valuation on Aluminum window, I'm thinking this is outrageous, I need your help learned people of this forum....
is it too much
attached is the picx

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by QSFemi(m): 8:52pm On Aug 12, 2020
If you don't have a weighing scale on site, there's a method you can use to determine the quantity of aggregate (fine or coarse) supplied to your site.

Get the volume of the bucket of the truck that supplied the aggregate to your site and multiply by the bulk density of the corresponding aggregate.

To get the volume; measure the length, breadth and depth of the inside of the bucket of the truck


EgunMogaji2:
I don’t have a weight scale onsite, this was sold to me as 25 ton and for N100K. My bricklayer and I are satisfied.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by twinskenny(m): 8:52pm On Aug 12, 2020
DEXTROVERT:
I'd been an ardent follower of this forum particularly this section, I have learnt alot, infact, I'm undergoing a project at currently at window level in Osun..
I am at cross road with this valuation on Aluminum window, I'm thinking this is outrageous, I need your help learned people of this forum....
is it too much
attached is the picx

the installer didnt state type of materials he is using.. i know some are more expensive than the other
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 9:01pm On Aug 12, 2020
twinskenny:


the installer didnt state type of materials he is using.. i know some are more expensive than the other

Thanks for the input.
I appreciate with high regards.
He said he'll use a good brand like Rongai etc not the class of Towers..

What do you think about the cost, and a good material with normal cost.
Note : Burglary is separate from the aluminium window
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 9:05pm On Aug 12, 2020
QSFemi:
If you don't have a weighing scale on site, there's a method you can use to determine the quantity of aggregate (fine or coarse) supplied to your site.

Get the volume of the bucket of the truck that supplied the aggregate to your site and multiply by the bulk density of the corresponding aggregate.

To get the volume; measure the length, breadth and depth of the inside of the bucket of the truck


Thanks, I’ll show this to my partner tomorrow maybe she’ll take it up. Me I’m too old for calculus cheesy

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Perfecttouchade: 9:09pm On Aug 12, 2020
DEXTROVERT:


Thanks for the input.
I appreciate with high regards.
He said he'll use a good brand like Rongai etc not the class of Towers..

What do you think about the cost, and a good material with normal cost.
Note : Burglary is separate from the aluminium window
Sir, kindly tell him to quote you according to each size measurements..at the moment, price of materials are very high and not stable..the price u get today might be different tomorrow even some of these material seller increase their prices twice in a day..their reasons are due to shortage of production due to the pandemic.. most of the material sellers are out of stocks while some hoards theirs to sell at higher cost..tell him to quote the sizes accordingly for proper negotiation... The general market (dopemu) is where the major problem fabricators and customers are currently facing is coming from..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 9:27pm On Aug 12, 2020
Perfecttouchade:
Sir, kindly tell him to quote you according to each size measurements..at the moment, price of materials are very high and not stable..the price u get today might be different tomorrow even some of these material seller increase their prices twice in a day..their reasons are due to shortage of production due to the pandemic.. most of the material sellers are out of stocks while some hoards theirs to sell at higher cost..tell him to quote the sizes accordingly for proper negotiation... The general market (dopemu) is where the major problem fabricators and customers are currently facing is coming from..

ok thanks sir
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by DEXTROVERT: 9:27pm On Aug 12, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


Thanks, I’ll show this to my partner tomorrow maybe she’ll take it up. Me I’m too old for calculus cheesy

I'm so grateful Sir, I'd be expecting the calculus boss
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Perfecttouchade: 9:36pm On Aug 12, 2020
DEXTROVERT:


ok thanks sir
you are welcome Sir.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 11:13pm On Aug 12, 2020
MrOkenwa:
Please how can somebody recognize "Oridudu " and Melina in the market? Any clue?
Our contractor don vex after madam go price the roofing planks in the market on her own, and we about to cut down a quotation of 1.4million naira to about 950k cool cool
He's not sending any of his team to assist us in recognizing the Oridudu that he said he's going to use.

Its tricky buying wood by yourself.

But if you get a honest carpentar, pay him about 10k and to assist you. And only use Melina for your nogging.

Melina tends to be lighter over time and when dried.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FrancisAdl(m): 12:01am On Aug 13, 2020
Any trusted Pop guy here?

I need to recreate this design

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 1:10am On Aug 13, 2020
Bought same quantity for 50k 2 days ago...quarry in ibadan is shutting down....transport to site 30k ..that is 80k




EgunMogaji2:
I don’t have a weight scale onsite, this was sold to me as 25 ton and for N100K. My bricklayer and I are satisfied.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KIDfurniture(m): 1:10am On Aug 13, 2020
Bought same quantity for 50k 2 days ago...quarry in ibadan is shutting down....transport to site 30k ..that is 80k







EgunMogaji2:
I don’t have a weight scale onsite, this was sold to me as 25 ton and for N100K. My bricklayer and I are satisfied.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:32am On Aug 13, 2020
Dominionng:


Regular external ceiling: All good for sit outs.

For Eaves: Only if the fascia drops below the level of the eaves. But if it is a clear cut angle like below, you should opt for cement board instead

Thank you
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:39am On Aug 13, 2020
Badgers14:


I respectfully disagree on the bolded.

Nigerians are not the poorest people in the world..

The issue is cost of doing business is high, very high. Lots of uncertainties.

Try opening a factory, the community will give you list of demands, this is after you pay for the land..

Then if you import materials, the non straightforward process to clear the goods and lots of unnecessary charges you have to pay.. then if you get too big, your rival could conive with a politician or someone with connections to frustrate your life..

But Nigerians are not poor..

Regardless, how many people have mortgage in Nigeria as compared to U.S?

I don't think you understand my point.

You're talking about "Cost of doing business"

I'm talking about our GDP! I'm talking about Nigeria having the highest number of people living below $1 per day.

People you see in Lagos represent only a tiny fraction of Nigerians. Have you been to Zamfara? Gombe? Has your food been snatched by Almajiri boys? Have you seen people die because they can't afford #1,500 malaria drug?

Nigeria is not just Lagos and Ogun state o.

We are poor in this country!!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:47am On Aug 13, 2020
EgunMogaji2:


I bought an Okada and Marwa that I use to roam around my neighborhoods. On one of my roams I discovered that I can get to Omi Adio from Elebu through a forest near Idi Ayunre. But I digress.

The point I want to make is to support your Nigeria is NOT poor point. I run across some fantastic mansions around me here that puts my American funded house to shame. Not all but some I discovered are owned by locals, not returnees. Basically Alhadji yen ni shob ni Gbagi types or Alhadji to nta plastic ni Alesinloye.

Nigerians are rich. It's just that the poor are bottom barrel poor. But we are mostly rich mfers.

All those Camry, Accord, Corrola, etc start from N2.1M plus and we know that there is no credit facility that is easily accessible in Nigeria. A lot of shopping complexes abound on Akala Express and you know it's all cash based.

There are levels to these things.

Demography matters. Do not base your conclusion on Lagos, Oyo and ogun states. Nigerians, as a country, contains the poorest people on earth..

That 2.1m Camry is most likely a 13 - 15 year old car. Is that what we call rich? How many Nigerians can but brands new cars?

How many times have you seen a 2019 or 2020 car in Ibadan?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by KolaShangOne(m): 1:52am On Aug 13, 2020
kopell:
Sir you need to retrieved that comments of Nigeria being the poorest people in the world. You don’t want to see poverty of other nation where people line up for food daily, imagine calling us poorest people. I may agree with you if you say we have leadership problem. Thank God somebody as make comparison with other rich nation. Go and do your research on how US government create wealth for their citizens in 1800 through homes ownership. Imagine government building thousand of homes at average cost of $10,000 then selling them at subsidized price of $5,000 according to people incomes on mortgage to engage their citizens to work till retirement age. That is how it all started okay my man.

Kopell, I'm not the one that said it.. it's the United Nations na... let's disagree with them but before then, try to visit Gombe, Zamfara, Bauchi, Kano, Borno, Sokoto, parts of Benue, Katsina etc.... Or are they not "Nigerians"

And yes they actually line up for food in most of those states I mentioned!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:27am On Aug 13, 2020
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by kopell: 2:29am On Aug 13, 2020
KolaShangOne:


Demography matters. Do not base your conclusion on Lagos, Oyo and ogun states. Nigerians, as a country, contains the poorest people on earth..

That 2.1m Camry is most likely a 13 - 15 year old car. Is that what we call rich? How many Nigerians can but brands new cars?

How many times have you seen a 2019 or 2020 car in Ibadan?


Kola, there is no reason to start this debate with you. People that live that life are talking from experience you wont understand it until you live it. I can easily tell you 99% of people in west buy there car on loan. Let me make this clear to you, they don't own those luxury cars you see them driving,
the bank does. Please don't compare Nigeria poverty with other Nations like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, Myanmar, even Brazil, including America. Do you know people line up for food in America too. So don't think Nigeria is the worst place when it comes to poverty. All those nonsense you're reading from United Nations indexes and mostly not adequate with reality in most of those places. If I tell you today that most westerner's especially the Americans working for over 10-15 years may not have $20,000 cash in their savings bank account; all they have is debts and credit that's not being rich but debt rich. And these are the people according to the United Nations index's on income making average income of $50,000 per year. I drop my pen

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 2:37am On Aug 13, 2020
kopell:
Hummmm. Intresting Alhamdulilah X 1000 for you that you can go back and have same love for the country as you left them. Many people are still living in delusion that every one will and can make it outside Nigeria shore. Many of them after wasting their youthful life, then realize it could be better if they stay on and work hard. It’s long story with different experience especially without papers, that alone could waste 10 years of one youthful live. Welcome back ooo

Dude if you get a visa to migrate to reasonable western country please do... The chances of success is higher compared to Nigeria. 1985 they asked Andrew not to checkout that Nigeria go better but unfortunately the country has degraded further since then.

Almost all smart Nigerian outside of this country are doing good and are contributing greatly to the economy of this country. Those that are not successful will not be even if you give them Dangote's wealth.

If u see visa go join them hustle.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by qdlvy: 3:26am On Aug 13, 2020
kopell:
Kola, there is no reason to start this debate with you. People that live that life are talking from experience you wont understand it until you live it. I can easily tell you 99% of people in west buy there car on loan. Let me make this clear to you, they don't own those luxury cars you see them driving,
the bank does. Please don't compare Nigeria poverty with other Nations like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, Myanmar, even Brazil, including America. Do you know people line up for food in America too. So don't think Nigeria is the worst place when it comes to poverty. All those nonsense you're reading from United Nations indexes and mostly not adequate with reality in most of those places. If I tell you today that most westerner's especially the Americans working for over 10-15 years may not have $20,000 cash in their savings bank account; all they have is debts and credit that's not being rich but debt rich. And these are the people according to the United Nations index's on income making average income of $50,000 per year. I drop my pen

So we should go by your anecdotes than established, researched data, indices from reputable bodies like the IMF, World Bank, World Economic Forum, etc?

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:49am On Aug 13, 2020
KolaShangOne:


Demography matters. Do not base your conclusion on Lagos, Oyo and ogun states. Nigerians, as a country, contains the poorest people on earth..

That 2.1m Camry is most likely a 13 - 15 year old car. Is that what we call rich? How many Nigerians can but brands new cars?

How many times have you seen a 2019 or 2020 car in Ibadan?


I respectfully disagree with your opinion Sir.

For those that may be interested, even in the USA, used vehicles abound. Not everyone in America is driving a 2020/21 vehicle. My last vehicle before I came home was a 2007 Mini Cooper S that I bought around 2015. In my estate of 10 homes, the only person in recent memory that bought a new car was someone that leases a new car every two years. And this is affluent Arcadia, California.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:50am On Aug 13, 2020
KIDfurniture:
Bought same quantity for 50k 2 days ago...quarry in ibadan is shutting down....transport to site 30k ..that is 80k


Excellent. Deals are out there to be had.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 5:57am On Aug 13, 2020
kopell:
Kola, there is no reason to start this debate with you. People that live that life are talking from experience you wont understand it until you live it. I can easily tell you 99% of people in west buy there car on loan. Let me make this clear to you, they don't own those luxury cars you see them driving,
the bank does. Please don't compare Nigeria poverty with other Nations like India, Bangladesh, Pakistan, China, Myanmar, even Brazil, including America. Do you know people line up for food in America too. So don't think Nigeria is the worst place when it comes to poverty. All those nonsense you're reading from United Nations indexes and mostly not adequate with reality in most of those places. If I tell you today that most westerner's especially the Americans working for over 10-15 years may not have $20,000 cash in their savings bank account; all they have is debts and credit that's not being rich but debt rich. And these are the people according to the United Nations index's on income making average income of $50,000 per year. I drop my pen

They don’t know about skidrows, bankruptcies and self medication because they can’t afford hospital visits in the USA.

Nigerians are not poor.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Sufisunni: 6:48am On Aug 13, 2020
qdlvy:


So we should go by your anecdotes than established, researched data, indices from reputable bodies like the IMF, World Bank, World Economic Forum, etc?
these institutions used dollars as their benchmark in analysis. Purchasing power parity matters alot when it comes to these comparisons.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 6:55am On Aug 13, 2020
We’ve been doing this thread now for a minute.

Lots of proven and established builders have wowed us with fantastic structures over the years.

People like Aventures, Spyder880, Skimanski, RichYoungRuler, Abdulwastecx, Podosci, KolaShangOne, Darenyx and others that I may have forgotten.

I don’t recall ever reading them post seeking for business or claiming number one or the best. Combined they must have hundreds of millions in completed projects.

Guys, thanks for your humility and letting your work speak for itself.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by qdlvy: 7:06am On Aug 13, 2020
Sufisunni:
these institutions used dollars as their benchmark in analysis. Purchasing power parity matters alot when it comes to these comparisons.

Last time I checked, Naija imports most of its consumer products except for food (even this largely imported), infrastructural materials, Healthcare equipment, building materials, electronics, banking services, telecommunications, petrol (lol at this), most are imported. Even many high paying services (finance, IT, oil, etc) imported. Paid in dollar. Not naira. So PPP has an advantage only in very few products and services. Everything can almost be traced down to the dollar because we do import the most basic raw materials.
And while the naira is weakening everyday with lower purchasing power, the dollar is gaining strength against it.





Mississippi GDP per capita, lowest in the US is 35k or thereabout. Naija GDP per capita 2k or thereabout.
The whole of naija economy output is bettered than at least 20 states in America. Apples and oranges but I know which fruit I prefer.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:08am On Aug 13, 2020
Nigerians are not poor. We just like to embrace poverty as a way of life.

I can still remember a beggar in Challenge Ibadan over 2 decades ago, she has over 4 buildings in the city of Ibadan.
Most of these beggars on the roads own the motorcycles and Kekes we see around.

It’s like saying those people picking junks/scraps on the streets are poor. They can buy a whole house if the deal is fine. They make more than $20 a day which most graduates can’t boast of.

Even “mama elewedu” has 3 houses, 2 graduates and yet she still hawk on the street.

That’s who we are!

I don’t look down on any of these guys. They’re well loaded grin

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