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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Badgers14: 4:07am On Aug 23, 2020
qdlvy:


You don't need a big yard for some green curb appeal.

You are correct..

But did you notice the listing price for that house grin grin

Like I said before, people do have lawns like this in Nigeria but they are not average Nigerians grin it is expensive to maintain..

Even in L.A, anyone that could afford a house like this can afford to pay someone to manicure the lawns for them.

It is a beautiful concept, magnificent but it takes a lot of work and could add extra maintenance cost to a homeowner which average Nigerian might not be able to keep up with..

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 4:46am On Aug 23, 2020
coldcandy:
Chambers!
My plumber and I are still fighting over chambers. I told him I don't want chambers but he cannot imagine a house without chambers. I designed the pipe network for him to implement but he is yet to do it. He said if there is blockage how will I locate it? I said i will break d whole pipe and replace it.
He is still pondering over it. I will soon fire him.


You don’t need a chamber. We discussed this some years ago. Go chamberless with T-pipe
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 4:51am On Aug 23, 2020
Badgers14:


You are correct..

But did you notice the listing price for that house grin grin

Like I said before, people do have lawns like this in Nigeria but they are not average Nigerians grin it is expensive to maintain..

Even in L.A, anyone that could afford a house like this can afford to pay someone to manicure the lawns for them.

It is a beautiful concept, magnificent but it takes a lot of work and could add extra maintenance cost to a homeowner which average Nigeria might not be able to keep up with..

No be only manicure na pedicure....

Mowing lawn is very easily, as a matter of fact most people do it themself. The only problem is, we are waiting for someone to start it first. Nigerian weather is green friendly and during dry season u can jse electric sprinklers or use the locally made shower kettle to water the lawn.

When am build my personal home it's definitely going to be mostly green.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 5:03am On Aug 23, 2020
qdlvy:

You don't need a big yard for some green curb appeal.

You are comparing this environment to Naija environment, abi? And what kind of greens can you plant in 10% of the land. You will still need parking and other areas within that 10% o. Thank you o.

Hajji M.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nero2424: 5:04am On Aug 23, 2020
gbadexy:
Well done sir and thank you for the update.

The dude has the look of a slicky rogue! His statements would atleast show how he spent some of the money if his dad passed on for real. Again someone who lost his dad during lockdown shouldnt spend 3M on burial when he know he can just lay him to rest with a small gathering and use the remainder of the money to carry out some of its intended purpose.

It's so unfortunate he can't be banned here, he will come back with a different alias waiting for his next prey.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:18am On Aug 23, 2020
Badgers14:


You are correct..

But did you notice the listing price for that house grin grin

Like I said before, people do have lawns like this in Nigeria but they are not average Nigerians grin it is expensive to maintain.

Even in L.A, anyone that could afford a house like this can afford to pay someone to manicure the lawns for them.

It is a beautiful concept, magnificent but it takes a lot of work and could add extra maintenance cost to a homeowner which average Nigeria might not be able to keep up with..

I have a great one but it’s not cheap to maintain. It takes a lot of planning and cost so much to maintain here.

Pic 1 - Perimeter Drain
Pic 2 - Concrete Driveway
Pic 3 - Green Area
Pic 4 - Another Green Area

I never had issues with the driveway design but maintaining the lawn.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:22am On Aug 23, 2020
I just recently uprooted 2 mature coconut to create space for planting pepper.

Landscaping is great though but it takes a lot to raise a great one.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 5:30am On Aug 23, 2020
This might help some people in managing their contractors and artisans.

I designed this few years ago and it has really worked for me.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:12am On Aug 23, 2020
Focusmind:


My brother, na small build on kobo kobo basis. Just that I love nature die. My compound before I started was waterlogged with aquatic life. You would be hearing sounds of frog and other small marine livesgrin

During foundation, I left a tiny portion of that swamp water as I would want to culture it an make it a tiny fish pond just to watch the fishes swim because that was what I met when I bought the land. I saw tiny fish fingerlins, (I hope I got the name right) and frogs. Even monitor lizards.
nature is the biggest work of art and the most beautiful too

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by alstacs(m): 7:21am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:
Reinforcement of a bungalow is 1.350 grin


How many tons of iron rod is that? Please ask for detailed breakdown of this part alone.

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw it oh.
Did you also check the damp proof membrane among other things fa.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by michlins(m): 7:22am On Aug 23, 2020
coldcandy:
Oga, just paste the price on your product and negotiate the transportation to where ever.
I remember you posting that you have not gotten any sales from this forum. That should tell you that your modus oparandus isnt working. Your location is already a minus. How do one transport one gate from nnewi to lagos or abuja?

I don't know how to explain this thing to you oga. My work is per your requirement. Iron comes in different sizes and quality. What you want is different from what another person wants. There's 1mm to 5mm pan and same thing goes about pipes too. There's no way they can all be same prices. There are also different types of pipes from wrought to the usual ones we all use. These things affect the prices. If there's something I posted that you like, contact me and we will see how we can make it fall into your budget. I don't sell finished products like cars rather I buy raw materials to make them so I can't pretty much fix the price.


Your choice is what determines my price. Thanks for your understanding.


About the transport issue, my location maybe far from you but it's close to another person. Just like you say Nnewi is far from you, that's how I feel about you being far from me but one advantage I have is that Nnewi is a transport hub due to the Nkwo market. A door from here to Lagos is less than 3k and I know this, even with the addition of transport fare, it's cheaper than what they sell in places like Lagos and Ogun State. Why not contact me and we will work things out

And about my job, it will definitely come. No rushing in this life

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 7:38am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:


You don’t need a chamber. We discussed this some years ago. Go chamberless with T-pipe

Can you please enlighten me on this chamber of a thing? I'm a complete novice.

My plumber has been touting its use sometimes when we start to lay the waste pipes within the compound and also dig the soakaway.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:43am On Aug 23, 2020
alstacs:

I couldn't help but laugh when I saw it oh.
Did you also check the damp proof membrane among other things fa.

When I receive quotations like this, I always check for ambiguity.

An aluminium guy once sent me a quote and asked for 8 packets of drilling bits. There are 10 pcs in a pack �

For owner-builders, don’t be shy to question every details.

I gave him just 2 pcs for the project and he used only 1.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 7:55am On Aug 23, 2020
sinorte:


Can you please enlighten me on this chamber of a thing? I'm a complete novice.

My plumber has been touting its use sometimes when we start to lay the waste pipes within the compound and also dig the soakaway.

@egunmogaji2 mentioned it here
https://www.nairaland.com/2745049/construction-journal-browne-mews-nexthome/3#40633415

Take it easy on your plumber. He’s a Nigerian and you sure know a typical naija man has a fixed mindset of “this-is-how-we-do-it”

A typical naija builder believes alternative solutions must be a lot more expensive.

Edit:

I thought you said your plumber has been discouraging you from using it. My apologies for misconstruing your msg.

Give him extra credit for recommending it sir.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by gbadexy(m): 8:32am On Aug 23, 2020
Nero2424:


The dude has the look of a slicky rogue! His statements would atleast show how he spent some of the money if his dad passed on for real. Again someone who lost his dad during lockdown shouldnt spend 3M on burial when he know he can just lay him to rest with a small gathering and use the remainder of the money to carry out some of its intended purpose.

It's so unfortunate he can't be banned here, he will come back with a different alias waiting for his next prey.
I didn't really notice him on this forum before now but statements testifying he has been having problem with clients over a couple of years shows he has issues and wasn't willing to change his mode of operation.
For a client to have the confidence to give him such huge sum means he seemingly exude confidence and knowledge on what he does and he would still have made a honest and significant profit from the overall deal. In fact he could even make the whole sum in months with consistent such deals.
I take such cases personal because here is a person that has a platform to make very good legitimate business on a platter of gold but chose to squander it and spoil chances for other genuine contractors and business person.
I think we would like to know the conclusion of the case.
Strong statements should be made as a deterrent to show nobody can escape justice and there's price for every action.
I think like some elders have been doing, anyone with unpleasant experience or information about a contractor or artisan should call them out periodically to alert others not only because of business transactions but to warn against consultations and suggestions that could adversely affect others.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 8:37am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:


@egunmogaji2 mentioned it here
https://www.nairaland.com/2745049/construction-journal-browne-mews-nexthome/3#40633415

Take it easy on your plumber. He’s a Nigerian and you sure know a typical naija man has a fixed mindset of “this-is-how-we-do-it”

A typical naija builder believes alternative solutions must be a lot more expensive.

Edit:

I thought you said your plumber has been discouraging you from using it. My apologies for misconstruing your msg.

Give him extra credit for recommending it sir.

Thank you for your response. I seem to be a bit lost at it though.

My posture had been that my plumber says he would be using a chamber. I've also just read here that, perhaps, chambers are 'not good' and outdated.

So I'm asking please, which one is better to use? And what's the best way to apply it. The building is a duplex.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:36am On Aug 23, 2020
Wow! That is a good idea. Thanks for your input sir.
diordaves:


There is a simple trick. Design your pipe network away from the stamped concrete. Cover the pipes network area with sharp sand, lay over nylon and pour over granite. It worked perfectly for me for my last project.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 9:39am On Aug 23, 2020
sinorte:


Thank you for your response. I seem to be a bit lost at it though.

My posture had been that my plumber says he would be using a chamber. I've also just read here that, perhaps, chambers are 'not good' and outdated.

So I'm asking please, which one is better to use? And what's the best way to apply it. The building is a duplex.


Now I get it.

The pics below shows different types of inspection chambers.

The conventional method of using brick, cement and slab (Pic. 1) and then there’s the PVC inspection chamber (Pic. 2 & 4) and of course there’s precast manholes (Pic. 3) too.

If you ask a plumber why he’s using brick, his explanation will be “that’s how it’s done” or “it’s the best way.”

Now ask the same person what can the brick type of inspection chamber do that a PVC type can’t do.
Also considering the time, effort and the installation costs, a PVC inspection chamber is a cheaper alternative and lot more reliable option for modern builds.

It’s pretty easier to install PVC inspection chambers.

You don’t have to break slabs to inspect the chamber in case there’s blockage. You just need to open the lid and that’s it. No stress or sweat.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:45am On Aug 23, 2020
Wow! I will love the compound o cheesy, the micro climate of that compound will be nice and condusive!
Focusmind:


What you have there is what I have in mind. I am not a fan of covering the whole compound with concrete.

If I see way sef, I will grass the whole compound. Only the section where my car will park will be concrete. The walk way is going to be grass and concrete slabs at regular intervals of the walkway.

We are not used to green environment in Nigeria as we lack maintenance culture in Nigeria. People are here saying lack of time. What lack of time? Bring out 1hour on Saturday or Sunday and you will keep your lawn well mowed. I am also a core environmentalist.

Since I am on a kobo kobo budget, I have already planted coconut trees and other plants round the compound for them to be growing pending when there is money to continue with the building.

My fence is not plastered. I planted wall carpet grass and the grass have started covering the fence wall. My intention is that the whole wall will be covered green. Though it will take years to cover the whole fence. I am ready to use the long scissors to be trimming them down once in a while.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 9:58am On Aug 23, 2020
Lol grin, maize in the compound! Well, you are only utilizing the vacant space for now, once the building is completed you must uproot all those your maize o, or else na grass shopper go take over o smiley.

Meanwhile, you can contact me to secure your fence with; electric fence-wire or razor wire(barb wire). Check my signature for contact...
Focusmind:


Yeah, I want the compound to be a mini botanic garden. I encourage people to plant trees in their compound, especially palm like and canopy-shade like trees. They will like the ambience. You can also plant vegetables. It will add a new look. After all the compound is yours .
My build is still on going but I deliberately planted maize corn in the compound. There is this satisfaction that comes from eating what you planted. grin those that grew up in the village can relate to this
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by JustCryptos: 10:00am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:



Now I get it.

The pics below shows different types of inspection chambers.

The conventional method of using brick, cement and slab (Pic. 1) and then there’s the PVC inspection chamber (Pic. 2 & 4) and of course there’s precast manholes (Pic. 3) too.

If you ask a plumber why he’s using brick, his explanation will be “that’s how it’s done” or “it’s the best way.”

Now ask the same person what can the brick type of inspection chamber do that a PVC type can’t do.
Also considering the time, effort and the installation costs, a PVC inspection chamber is a cheaper alternative and lot more reliable option for modern builds.

It’s pretty easier to install PVC inspection chambers.

You don’t have to break slabs to inspect the chamber in case there’s blockage. You just need to open the lid and that’s it. No stress or sweat.

Chief, can you please explain how this chamberless system can be achieved. My site engineer is already talking about chambers for the building. Even the architect put chambers in the design.

If this I'd a cheaper and more reliable option, I'll definitely love to implement it.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 10:01am On Aug 23, 2020
A country home is always nice! I love it but monitor lizard!? Hope alligator and his brother crocodile will not come in grin
Focusmind:


My brother, na small build on kobo kobo basis. Just that I love nature die. My compound before I started was waterlogged with aquatic life. You would be hearing sounds of frog and other small marine livesgrin

During foundation, I left a tiny portion of that swamp water as I would want to culture it an make it a tiny fish pond just to watch the fishes swim because that was what I met when I bought the land. I saw tiny fish fingerlins, (I hope I got the name right) and frogs. Even monitor lizards.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sinorte: 10:11am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:



Now I get it.

The pics below shows different types of inspection chambers.

The conventional method of using brick, cement and slab (Pic. 1) and then there’s the PVC inspection chamber (Pic. 2 & 4) and of course there’s precast manholes (Pic. 3) too.

If you ask a plumber why he’s using brick, his explanation will be “that’s how it’s done” or “it’s the best way.”

Now ask the same person what can the brick type of inspection chamber do that a PVC type can’t do.
Also considering the time, effort and the installation costs, a PVC inspection chamber is a cheaper alternative and lot more reliable option for modern builds.

It’s pretty easier to install PVC inspection chambers.

You don’t have to break slabs to inspect the chamber in case there’s blockage. You just need to open the lid and that’s it. No stress or sweat.






Thank you so much. You'll make a great teacher. smiley smiley

Now still on this lesson on chambers, can we explore the uses? How many am I supposed to be looking at in the building?

Kindly note that I have two waste pipes running separately from the first floor, and then another two different rest rooms again on the ground floor.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by rotecch77(m): 10:23am On Aug 23, 2020
n3xt:



Now I get it.

The pics below shows different types of inspection chambers.

The conventional method of using brick, cement and slab (Pic. 1) and then there’s the PVC inspection chamber (Pic. 2 & 4) and of course there’s precast manholes (Pic. 3) too.

If you ask a plumber why he’s using brick, his explanation will be “that’s how it’s done” or “it’s the best way.”

Now ask the same person what can the brick type of inspection chamber do that a PVC type can’t do.
Also considering the time, effort and the installation costs, a PVC inspection chamber is a cheaper alternative and lot more reliable option for modern builds.

It’s pretty easier to install PVC inspection chambers.

You don’t have to break slabs to inspect the chamber in case there’s blockage. You just need to open the lid and that’s it. No stress or sweat.






You are very correct.
Pvc chamber is available in the mkt but it’s not something you can easily get like that.
But indomie generation plumber doesn’t know that such are available but Old men plumber know this.
I will post the pics here tomorrow or next

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Abolarin91(m): 10:28am On Aug 23, 2020
Damn! 8 packet to one pieces!? Aah
n3xt:


When I receive quotations like this, I always check for ambiguity.

An aluminium guy once sent me a quote and asked for 8 packets of drilling bits. There are 10 pcs in a pack �

For owner-builders, don’t be shy to question every details.

I gave him just 2 pcs for the project and he used only 1.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:41am On Aug 23, 2020
sinorte:


Thank you so much. You'll make a great teacher. smiley smiley

Now still on this lesson on chambers, can we explore the uses? How many am I supposed to be looking at in the building?

Kindly note that I have two waste pipes running separately from the first floor, and then another two different rest rooms again on the ground floor.


Smiling.

The quantity you’ll need is already in your M&E plan. If you don’t have one, a very good plumber can help you with that.

These stuffs are dirt cheap. N3500 - N6000 depending on thickness and sizes.

I use 6in for the inspection chamber.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by amosblisz: 10:42am On Aug 23, 2020
michlins:
well in the face of the competition and plethora of goods, some will still want to pay premium and get premium services. So I hope when you invest in this business, you can be one of those


Modified post.

Just imagine what Nigeria structures will look like if these type of works adorn them.
To think we came from the last picture on this post some years back to here is ama

Is the Versace design a door? if yes what make? Nigeria or.....
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:43am On Aug 23, 2020
JustCryptos:


Chief, can you please explain how this chamberless system can be achieved. My site engineer is already talking about chambers for the building. Even the architect put chambers in the design.

If this I'd a cheaper and more reliable option, I'll definitely love to implement it.

Whether pvc, precast concrete or block type, they’re all inspection chamber and you’re definitely going to need one.

The only difference is you’re replacing the brick chambers with PVC.

Nothing more. The pipe network remains the same.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by n3xt(m): 10:46am On Aug 23, 2020
rotecch77:


You are very correct.
Pvc chamber is available in the mkt but it’s not something you can easily like that.
But indomie generation plumber doesn’t know that such are available but Old men plumber know this.
I will post the pics here tomorrow or next

Thank you.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by EgunMogaji2: 11:22am On Aug 23, 2020
Abolarin91:
A country home is always nice! I love it but monitor lizard!? Hope alligator and his brother crocodile will not come in grin

You see I was like this too when I was in America. Making grand plans and plots.

Living in Nigeria for the past 18 months has clued me in to different things.

There’s a reason farmers go to farms and not farm next to their houses, mostly.

My landscaping is limited to flowers and strategically placed specific trees. I have about 25 trees that I have on my 2 plots. The central courtyard has two palm trees.

But in any case we’re all free to pursue our happiness.

Happy Sunday. I feel like going fishing today.

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