gordonbarrett:
The whole issue is coming from a point of strained relationship. Normally this shouldn't degenerate to this level. I kind of understand where the vendor is coming from, cos even if he supplied exactly 3ft, that extra 3" or thereabout will be lost in the plaster. He should have explained to the client.

michlins:
please sir, that's how doors are made. Even the prefabricated doors are smaller.

Here's how it goes. A sheet of pan is 8ft and when divided by four gives you 2ft plus 3" of the pipes. That's 30" then you add frames which is usually 1.5" on both sides. That's a total of 33".

This is the way it works. If you want to expand the size, you will have to add pipes in-between to increase it.

These things are like this anywhere and everywhere

n3xt:
After this, nobody should come in peace again o

Adedward:
boss before u close gate I come in peace o, gud evening sir

Enyinne:
Its about the image for u but doing the right thing is not paramount to u . I bought some luxury turkey doors of 3ft and all measured 3ft plus .Does it mean turkish company don't know client will choke the doors ? U decided to shortchange me aka cheat me and collect 60k and made a toilet size doors for me . You will retrieve this doors and refund me or better still sell the doors to ur new found client on Nairaland. Cos if i start , i will trool u forever on Nairaland then u will know what it means to ruin ones image .

Enyinne:
I'm back here with the issue of Michlin and the door I ordered. I made order of 3ft door and he supplied me 31.5 inches but claimed that it is 33.5inches . Now the door is now small to be used as an entrance door . He now claimed that he made 33.5inches so i can choke the door as if i asked him to make less size for choking. I'm not building a kitchen line house where i will need to squeeze my belongings through.
See attached comment from him
I will need him to pick up the door and refund me since he is producing same door for someone or charge me for the size he made as i paid him 60k for 3ft door knowing my door size .
Who ever knows him should advice him as this is a ripe off and that person that indicated interest in the door should come and pay for it and rescue him .

michlins:
sir I am a vendor here and still I am human who deserves a respect. If you take offense with my response and feel ok with her statement, I don't know what to say about it.


She gave me a measurement saying she wants 7ft by 3ft. I deducted 3" from the measurements for the plastering. How on earth is this fraud? Go anywhere, this is the industrial standard. It has been discussed extensively here. She's quick to bring screenshots here. Do you know what she has said to me over the phone and how she has insulted me. Even a slave deserve a better treatment

michlins:
sir I am a vendor here and still I am human who deserves a respect. If you take offense with my response and feel ok with her statement, I don't know what to say about it.


She gave me a measurement saying she wants 7ft by 3ft. I deducted 3" from the measurements for the plastering. How on earth is this fraud? Go anywhere, this is the industrial standard. It has been discussed extensively here. She's quick to bring screenshots here. Do you know what she has said to me over the phone and how she has insulted me. Even a slave deserve a better treatment

UC92:

To be honest, your designer goofed by giving you a main entrance of 3ft.
Usually building components like doors and windows require tolerance for installation, reason for the 3 inches reduction.
Please next time ensure your vendor visits the site to take measurement, insist on developing a statement of work which both parties can agree on.

somehow:


You're the expert here, you don't assume your client should know some of these technical details.

somehow:


And madam, did you did ask questions on what to expect when you contacted him?

abuiltech:



Sorry, i feel your pain, sir, but you made a very mistake, you should have notified her all your concerns before deducting anything from the dimension, or asked questions on any of the ambiguities, & advised her if necessary on any of the decisions, because she believed you know it better, kindly find a way to resolve this issue amicably, find a way to protect your name even if we cost you much, that your name is very important

Ggee:
It is wrong to say it is market standard.
If in doubt ask the customer, you do not assume for the person.

What you two discussed is hidden from me and any potential customer. What we see is what we read here.

Ggee:
I know you are trying to defend michlins but ask him if he discussed his assumptions with the customer.

When I order 3ft, it should be 3ft. Most people here are learned enough to know what they require. So when you assume, clear with the person first.

n3xt:


This conversation ensued few hours ago between myself and my contact for frameless Glass partitions providing an option quote to coldcandy

The first question asked when he saw my measurement was “Have you removed clearance?”


While giving feedback to coldcandy, the first thing I asked him was if clearance was removed and I told him what I asked the contractor to do to avoid ambiguity.

I’m not mad. I just believe some issues can be avoided.

It doesn’t matter whether coldcandy will give his job to my contact or use his estimate as a guide. What matters is I didn’t create a bigger problem for him while trying to help.

rotecch77:
On Neutral ground…
Some pages back I did full tutorial on how STANDARD DOOR MEASUREMENT should be.
I will search for it here when I have time so that people can learn how it should be done.

-Door leaf size
-Wall opening size
- frame size (thickness)
All these comes with different measurement
At the end of the day your DOOR of 3ft size with frame will still be 3ft.
BSS CODE

If time permit I will write it out fully again

Greenarrow01:
...
N3xt come and carry your people

ceelog:
Greetings all...

I am about to transact some business with @Chizagi for some bath doors *Double panel American doors* purported to have a high water resistant ability.

I am starting with bath doors and if all goes well as he promised and he delivers just before this weekend, then more business and more clients may come his way.

He is transporting them from Lagos to Orlu at an agreed price.

I hope he gets a thumbs up from me and I shall return to tell you of the transaction later.

Una well done ooo

@spyder880
@diodarves
@mufutua
@next
@Goodfaith
Etc...

Horlardorjah:
Like u ought to add an inch or two to your windows or doors openings instead of reduction except confirmed on site otherwise.

Even for my Kobo Kobo interior works that I don't post here due to the drama with nairaland clients as I don't post even my architectural n construction here.
Michlin, u r good no doubt. But u need to be more detailed and u need more wisdom in client management n relationship.
Please I will say again, easy does it. The misfortune of one mostly leads to upgrade of another competitive n serious minded one as majority believes.
I cum in peace

EgunMogaji2:


Looks like a well done stained concrete.

n3xt:


My kind of window spotted

The concrete floor is stained by a pro hardscape contractor .

Greenarrow01:
...
N3xt come and carry your people

Greenarrow01:
...
N3xt come and carry your people

rotecch77:
On Neutral ground…
Some pages back I did full tutorial on how STANDARD DOOR MEASUREMENT should be.
I will search for it here when I have time so that people can learn how it should be done.

-Door leaf size
-Wall opening size
- frame size (thickness)
All these comes with different measurement
At the end of the day your DOOR of 3ft size with frame will still be 3ft.
BSS CODE

If time permit I will write it out fully again

uncleteeh:


All persons on the project might av wanted something unique or one of its kind structure, just that they got it wrong.
My gesture.

rotecch77:
Let’s do small tutorial on door ( let’s use ft and inches here)

Regular 3ft door as example,
- wall opening size width 3ft
- wall opening size height 7ft
Door frame 7*3 ft

Door leaf size; you will reduce 2” (50mm) from up, side A,side B and threshold[(this will take care of tiles or any floor finishings thickness)
( this reduction is for the frame)]
Now your door leaf size will be
- width 2ft 8”
- height 6ft 8”

So don’t expect your door to be 3ft by 7ft
When your builder, engr, or artisan deliver your door