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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:36pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:

Are you really serious here. Is this what you have to say. After paying you over N7m this is your excuse. Why would i steal materials for my own project on my owm site.
did ur material not supplyed after payment, ?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 10:37pm On Jul 08
Adedward:
can u listening to ur self, in ur own site,? Before I moved materials to ur site, I ask u, ( is ur site saved,) the answer was yes, that ur engineer and other security was there,
In the first time we went for weekend, they stole materials, I told u about it, u said we should use it to cancel the burglaries den, the second time I told u, u said u will find solutions to it, the thirds one, they carry all the rest materials with my tools, { generator and cutting machine like (#1m) the material Worth 3m, the next things u are telling me to come and start working, u will rent machine for me, hmmmm, am just laughing

This guy is an unrepentant liar. Mini sized Generator that was at end of its lifespan market value of 150k. Cutting machine less than 500k - 400k. How does this equate to N1m. If you were genuine, with a twin detached duplex, you would have made enough money to buy back your tools. From glass railings, cubicle you would have made enough to recoup your loses.

Even when I was planning on replacing materials in installments, you still didn't want to continue work. You inflated the quantity of missing materials, even when my site team took inventory .

Transact with Adedward at your own risk. He is a dishonest opportunitist .
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:39pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:


Please avoid adedward. He has no conscience and is a liar.
u haven't sincerely with ur explanation,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 10:40pm On Jul 08
Adedward:
did ur material not supplyed after payment, ?

Incomplete materials. Did you supply all the Glass for the windows.

I don't want to talk much, I have accepted my faith. I just don't want anyone on this platform to fall victim. After transferring N7m, you didn't take any step to recover the missing materials.

DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH ADEDWARD.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:45pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:


This guy is an unrepentant liar. Mini sized Generator that was at end of its lifespan market value of 150k. Cutting machine less than 500k - 400k. How does this equate to N1m. If you were genuine, with a twin detached duplex, you would have made enough money to buy back your tools. From glass railings, cubicle you would have made enough to recoup your loses.

Even when I was planning on replacing materials in installments, you still didn't want to continue work. You inflated the quantity of missing materials, even when my site team took inventory .

Transact with Adedward at your own risk. He is a dishonest opportunitist .
this is not first work in site I have done, and it will not be last here, it's just that u are not capable to handle ur site, in the site where u are, materials are missing, confirmed by ur team, and u have nothing to do to it, let's me ask u question, if this loss in my own office, can u bring police to do investigation, or we will do it 50/50, or u will call me out to collect ur work, why are u so like this,? think now,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 10:50pm On Jul 08
This is the face of ADEDWARD. please do not give him your project. He has refused to be honest with me. I have been quiet for months, trying to raise funds. But he has been threatening to use money for my materials to replace his tools. He has not taken any step to recover the materials. Since March.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:52pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:


Incomplete materials. Did you supply all the Glass for the windows.

I don't want to talk much, I have accepted my faith. I just don't want anyone on this platform to fall victim. After transferring N7m, you didn't take any step to recover the missing materials.

DON'T DO BUSINESS WITH ADEDWARD.
u are doing ur self, next time handle ur site very well,

They stole materials first time

They stole materials second time


They stole materials third time,

They stole my generator and cutting machine,

Help to asked him, is true or not,


And ask him what are they done to that since Many months,

Let me go and sleep jare, I don't have ur time,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:56pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:
This is the face of ADEDWARD. please do not give him your project. He has refused to be honest with me. I have been quiet for months, trying to raise funds. But he has been threatening to use money for my materials to replace his tools. He has not taken any step to recover the materials. Since March.
let me send u my address too, and my children face, u are getting no point,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 10:59pm On Jul 08
raymondFirstborn:


Please avoid adedward. He has no conscience and is a liar.
u haven't sincerely with ur explanation,

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 11:00pm On Jul 08
Adedward:
u haven't sincerely with ur explanation,

Show us the glass you supplied on site. My 2m x 3m glasses. For my windows
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 11:17pm On Jul 08
Good evening house, pls avoid Raymond firstborn called him self an engineer, he is not competent to handle a toilets,

He contacted me to do some windows for him with agreed prices, and he ask me to verbricate on site, I ask him about his site, how it was save, and said it 💯 save,

He paid, and material was delivered like 5 working days, his team was stole materials in mid night, he was told , and said we should use that to removed burglaries from the project, which I was agreed,

In the second week, we discovered missed again, and was told, he said he will find something to do on it, I gave him the list of what they stole in the second place,

On December last year, they want to close estate for new year, I personally ask him about the safety again, he said no probs he have provided some securities and he described where we should keep our tools, it was this January that estate resume, that his team confirm that all the materials and generator wit cutting machine has been stoled, and Raymond first didn't do anything to it since that months till now, he is not competent to be an engineer, pls avoid him, he can not handle a room talkless of duplex,



PLS AVOID HIM OOO, ITS NOT COMPETENT AT ALL, I WILL BE EXPOSING HIS WORK HERE START FROM TOMORROW,

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 6:41am On Jul 09
Adedward:
let me send u my address too, and my children face, u are getting no point,


How’s much is the missing materials?

But the Engr promised to buy the missing materials for you to come and finish?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 6:49am On Jul 09
bolu1986:



How’s much is the missing materials?

But the Engr promised to buy the missing materials for you to come and finish?
he has not buy the missing materials, and my tools, even I wanted to send him the list of missing materials he said I should hold on to it, the missing materials is almost 3m and my tools 1m, he has not done anything, what he is after is getting machines from me and start working, who does that, end of the day he will be telling me I collected work I don't finish it,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 7:04am On Jul 09
Adedward:
he has not buy the missing materials, and my tools, even I wanted to send him the list of missing materials he said I should hold on to it, the missing materials is almost 3m and my tools 1m, he has not done anything, what he is after is getting machines from me and start working, who does that, end of the day he will be telling me I collected work I don't finish it,

Am not defending anyone he said 65 percent of the work has been done… how come you still have 3m worth of materials stolen?

The estate securities should be questioned, cause that’s a lot of materials right there… you need to work work with your engr to resolve this
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 7:23am On Jul 09
Adedward:
Good evening house, pls avoid Raymond firstborn called him self an engineer, he is not competent to handle a toilets,

He contacted me to do some windows for him with agreed prices, and he ask me to verbricate on site, I ask him about his site, how it was save, and said it 💯 save,

He paid, and material was delivered like 5 working days, his team was stole materials in mid night, he was told , and said we should use that to removed burglaries from the project, which I was agreed,

In the second week, we discovered missed again, and was told, he said he will find something to do on it, I gave him the list of what they stole in the second place,

On December last year, they want to close estate for new year, I personally ask him about the safety again, he said no probs he have provided some securities and he described where we should keep our tools, it was this January that estate resume, that his team confirm that all the materials and generator wit cutting machine has been stoled, and Raymond first didn't do anything to it since that months till now, he is not competent to be an engineer, pls avoid him, he can not handle a room talkless of duplex,



PLS AVOID HIM OOO, ITS NOT COMPETENT AT ALL, I WILL BE EXPOSING HIS WORK HERE START FROM TOMORROW,

See pictures below my windows have not been installed.
This guy must be really sick. Do you know what it takes to develop two units of 4bedroom duplex. N120m spent so far.
After paying you N7m this is what I get .

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 7:37am On Jul 09
bolu1986:


Am not defending anyone he said 65 percent of the work has been done… how come you still have 3m worth of materials stolen?

The estate securities should be questioned, cause that’s a lot of materials right there… you need to work work with your engr to resolve this

He only fabricated the windows. But glass for most has not been brought to site. Imagine windows without glass. My Giant windows for the front yet to be fixed. Glass has not been provided.
65% of work done is fabrication. He fabricated a large amount of the windows but is yet to provide glass .all he needs to is provide glass and install the ones he has fabricated. Then we can sort the missing ones as I raise funds.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:11am On Jul 09
The issue now is Adedward doesn't need the missing materials to continue the work. What he needs to continue is the glass for the windows, so he can at least install the panel he has coulpled.Which he said he won't bring until I buy his tools back. Meanwhile we are trying to raise funds for the missing materials.

Meanwhile we are offering to rent tools for him to complete the job. He has refused.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:14am On Jul 09
Adedward:
Good evening house, pls avoid Raymond firstborn called him self an engineer, he is not competent to handle a toilets,

He contacted me to do some windows for him with agreed prices, and he ask me to verbricate on site, I ask him about his site, how it was save, and said it 💯 save,

He paid, and material was delivered like 5 working days, his team was stole materials in mid night, he was told , and said we should use that to removed burglaries from the project, which I was agreed,

In the second week, we discovered missed again, and was told, he said he will find something to do on it, I gave him the list of what they stole in the second place,

On December last year, they want to close estate for new year, I personally ask him about the safety again, he said no probs he have provided some securities and he described where we should keep our tools, it was this January that estate resume, that his team confirm that all the materials and generator wit cutting machine has been stoled, and Raymond first didn't do anything to it since that months till now, he is not competent to be an engineer, pls avoid him, he can not handle a room talkless of duplex,



PLS AVOID HIM OOO, ITS NOT COMPETENT AT ALL, I WILL BE EXPOSING HIS WORK HERE START FROM TOMORROW,


Please show us the glass you supplied for the windows.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:18am On Jul 09
Meanwhile my building has been certified by lagos state. We carried out structural integrity test.
Result came out 100%.

Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:23am On Jul 09
Engineers in the house can verify readings of the test done by lagos state.
Instead of ADEDWARD to focus on best possible way to handle the situation. He has been threatening me his client.

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 8:24am On Jul 09
bolu1986:


Am not defending anyone he said 65 percent of the work has been done… how come you still have 3m worth of materials stolen?

The estate securities should be questioned, cause that’s a lot of materials right there… you need to work work with your engr to resolve this
I wonder ooo, that is what the missing materials worth now, if he go to market he will know what am saying, I have told him, if he get all what they stole including tools, then we will come back to finish it,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:28am On Jul 09
Adedward:
I wonder ooo, that is what the missing materials worth now, if he go to market he will know what am saying, I have told him, if he get all what they stole including tools, then we will come back to finish it,

Is it missing materials you need or the glass to to continue. You haven't provided glass for most of the windows. At least finish the windows then while we sort out missing materials for sliding doors.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 8:29am On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:
Engineers in the house can verify readings of the test done by lagos state.
Instead of ADEDWARD to focus on best possible way to handle the situation. He has been threatening me his client.
don't ever use that words for me who is threatening u, u are the one brought it here, what I am asking u is to get me the tools, I have many work to do outside, I can't be waiting for ever,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 8:34am On Jul 09
Adedward:
don't ever use that words for me who is threatening u, u are the one brought it here, what I am asking u is to get me the tools, I have many work to do outside, I can't be waiting for ever,
why do i need to provide your tools. The 7m I gave to you is it for materials or tools?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Rany4all(m): 8:56am On Jul 09
Materials got missing from a supposedly secure site on more than a couple of occasions, and both of you still decided to store more materials and a couple of expensive tools at the same site over a festive period? Not a smart decision in my opinion.

I think this is a matter of both of you making a serious mistake that has unfortunately resulted in huge losses, which in my opinion should be shared by both of you.

@raymondFirstborn has accepted to replace missing materials which he rightly should. Now the issue in contention is who takes the hit for the missing tools? @Adedward you knew fully well that the site wasn't secure, inspite of reassurances from raymondFirstborn, yet went ahead to keep your expensive tools there over an extended period, so I belief you have to also take some responsibility for the missing tools. I think both of you should share the cost for the tools. Both of you just need to discuss amicably and come to an agreement on how to achieve this.

In the mean time, raymondFirstborn's offer of completing the job with rented tools might not be such a bad idea.

Just my thoughts!!!

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Adedward(m): 9:03am On Jul 09
Rany4all:
Materials got missing from a supposedly secure site on more than a couple of occasions, and both of you still decided to store more materials and a couple of expensive tools at the same site over a festive period? Not a smart decision in my opinion.

I think this is a matter of both of you making a serious mistake that has unfortunately resulted in huge losses, which in my opinion should be shared by both of you.

@raymondFirstborn has accepted to replace missing materials which he rightly should. Now the issue in contention is who takes the hit for the missing tools? @Adedward you knew fully well that the site wasn't secure, inspite of reassurances from raymondFirstborn, yet went ahead to keep your expensive tools there over an extended period, so I belief you have to also take some responsibility for the missing tools. I think both of you should share the cost for the tools. Both of you just need to discuss amicably and come to an agreement on how to achieve this.

In the mean time, raymondFirstborn's offer of completing the job with rented tools might not be such a bad idea.

Just my thoughts!!!
on that very day during festival period, I asked him of my own tools safety, he said we should keep it to one of his bricklayer room there that he was safe, and securities is full there, if I insist i know what he will be thinking, but I accept with him,
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by bolu1986(m): 9:03am On Jul 09
Rany4all:
Materials got missing from a supposedly secure site on more than a couple of occasions, and both of you still decided to store more materials and a couple of expensive tools at the same site over a festive period? Not a smart decision in my opinion.

I think this is a matter of both of you making a serious mistake that has unfortunately resulted in huge losses, which in my opinion should be shared by both of you.

@raymondFirstborn has accepted to replace missing materials which he rightly should. Now the issue in contention is who takes the hit for the missing tools? @Adedward you knew fully well that the site wasn't secure, inspite of reassurances from raymondFirstborn, yet went ahead to keep your expensive tools there over an extended period, so I belief you have to also take some responsibility for the missing tools. I think both of you should share the cost for the tools. Both of you just need to discuss amicably and come to an agreement on how to achieve this.

In the mean time, raymondFirstborn's offer of completing the job with rented tools might not be such a bad idea.

Just my thoughts!!!

Right!
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by dangoteinlaw: 9:14am On Jul 09
raymondFirstborn:


Is it missing materials you need or the glass to to continue. You haven't provided glass for most of the windows. At least finish the windows then while we sort out missing materials for sliding doors.
does this mean that you only want him to finish your work but you are not concerned about his missing tools?
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 9:22am On Jul 09
Rany4all:
Materials got missing from a supposedly secure site on more than a couple of occasions, and both of you still decided to store more materials and a couple of expensive tools at the same site over a festive period? Not a smart decision in my opinion.

I think this is a matter of both of you making a serious mistake that has unfortunately resulted in huge losses, which in my opinion should be shared by both of you.

@raymondFirstborn has accepted to replace missing materials which he rightly should. Now the issue in contention is who takes the hit for the missing tools? @Adedward you knew fully well that the site wasn't secure, inspite of reassurances from raymondFirstborn, yet went ahead to keep your expensive tools there over an extended period, so I belief you have to also take some responsibility for the missing tools. I think both of you should share the cost for the tools. Both of you just need to discuss amicably and come to an agreement on how to achieve this.

In the mean time, raymondFirstborn's offer of completing the job with rented tools might not be such a bad idea.

Just my thoughts!!!

On this issue of missing materials, the estate sacked one of the estate Security supervisors, transfered a lot of the security guys. Now this is an estate where police officers patrol every evening. I mean each street has a security officer on standby. You cant take large materials outside estate without permit.
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 9:25am On Jul 09
dangoteinlaw:
does this mean that you only want him to finish your work but you are not concerned about his missing tools?

I have accepted my loss on materials, he should do the same for his tool.
That's business bro .

You don't get it. We have offered to rent tools pending when we are able to raise funds. He just doesn't want to carry on

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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by raymondFirstborn(m): 9:33am On Jul 09
There's also a possibility that adedward has been to the site to take his tools while we were on Christmas break.
Because ADEDWARD told me he has been handling other projects aside my own project.

Please ask adedward which tools he has been using to execute other projects.

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