mufutau55:
@adanny01
@EgunMogaji
@abouzaid
@All other participants

Please let us move on... you guys knows what I mean. We have all made our points. We are all enjoying this thread. Thank you all.

Hajji M.

KolaShangOne:
@befto After your Roofing, fix the burglary, fix the doors. Suspend the windows till later. If you dont want to spend d money, and you have a trusted Aluminium guy like @adeekiti, you can pay him about 70% upfront.

NL1960:


It is not really a quote. When i want to do any aspect, i normally tell my brother who has been handling the project to get the person to do an estimate. It is my brother that i send money to and he does not connive with them. He buys materials on need basis. Cement has actually come down. It is normally N1,950. It is in the village and the sellers are small time sellers and not those sellers that can buy 600 bags at once for resell. They might even be buying from those selling at N1400 to resell.

The reason i posted these prices is to highlight the point that location matters in a project and that an amount that cannot be used for instance in a place like Lagos to complete a project can be used in another location to complete the same project. Iam getting the sand and gravel from the village which is why it is cheap. People familiar with Edo North for instance will know of Okpella. It is the home of granite and so will be cheaper there. I intend to take pictures of my gate when i go home and show it here and then tell people to guess the price.

As i said earlier, i studied how the farmers were able to achieve building bungalows to house them and their families without having all the millions in their pockets. There is no 'money for foundation', 'money for decking', 'money for roofing', 'money for offloading materials' in the villages. These are serious savings that is put back into the project.

Btw, did you notice that there is no transport on the list and yet there is a gate and fence railings that will be brought to the site for this work. Transport na FOC now. Just buy sheppe for boys and your gate and fence railings will be at your site in a twinkle of an eye. The same thing happened for my water tank stand for a duplex. Even standing it, there was no crane used.

Babs612000:
Please can anybody help with the following cost of materials in Abeokuta Obafemi owode local govt.
1. Cement
2. Sharp sand per tipper and how ton in one tipper.
3. Filling sand per tipper.
4.Grainte per tipper
5. Washed stone and finally 6" and 9" blocks.
Many thanks .

Babs612000:

Please kindly let me have for Ibadan there may not be much different in d prices.

EgunMogaji:


If you want Ibadan prices for reference then please let me know.

EgunMogaji:


watch out for a Nairaland supplier that may leave you hanging with a story at the last minute

smiley001:




Hi sir, I tried to message u on whatsapp after u requested for another 60tons of granite to ur site but I noticed u av blocked me.
But why sir?
Sir, u need to understand me... things don't work in nigeria d way Diasporans view it.
I know I disappointed u by not taking d order from u.
I just av to be very careful with my head becos d way ur builder talked to me from dat first supply showed he was highly interested and he looked very powerful and spiritual to me and dat was why I advised dat u should let him do the 60tons supply of granite but u just didn't understand me.
Nothing rilly personal.

I'm sorry if I may av disappointed or offended u in any way sir.

Cheers.

brag3:
Why the sob story?

twinskenny:
abi o

brag3:
Why the sob story?

twinskenny:
abi o

befto:

@Haji

Thanks for this. These are the kinda responses that I am seeking.
The plastering wont be done till next year.
It's just the installation of the roof/doors, (windows + buglary).

I kinda like the idea of storing certain things on site once secured but I don't think its a chance I'd like to take in our current climate.

Again, thanks for the tips.

Much appreciated.

brag3:
Why the sob story?

mufutau55:


No problem sir. I did the same thing on my "kobo-kobo" project. Although it was secured by an old man opposite the site keeping watch of the building for me... Although it has been completed now... but the installed burglary, windows, and frontal and exit doors.

Hajji M.

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when "two people" are having issues, l think if you cannot contribute POSITIVELY, the best thing to do is to "stay out of it"....
...... not make snide remarks that show you are "blindly" taking sides.
Your comment above is completely unnecessary and reckless.
For @brag3 to have just quoted this post of his supplier, right in the middle of the current discussion, means there is 'more to it' than that quote (and reading the quote itself reveals a prior issue).
l personally dont know what went on between the two except for what @brag posted up there. So, l wont jump at it nor expect anyone to ...
Next time, l think it is proper to first ask questions and understand what is going on/what really occurred ...before pitching your tent.
You did not contribute anything to the "core issue" ..........but rather just made that your "impressionistic" comment!
"3rd party" Opinions on matters of grouse between two people, no matter the "overriding implicit interest", MUST be informed
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Edited: Mind you, l am not taking brief for either of the two parties simply because l dont have all the relevant information of what transpired.
Maybe with the passage of time, l will "be informed" of what happened but my comments should not be misinterpreted as condoning/defending or antagonising either party.

The best environment for healthy conflict is in private, just between the two of you.

EgunMogaji:


Cement/ Dangote 42.5r N1,500, Elephant N1,450
Sharp Sand/ N1,200 per tonne with free delivery
Laterite/ N750 per tonne with free delivery
Granite/ N2,300 per tonne plus delivery - negotiation skill swill come in handy here and watch out for a Nairaland supplier that may leave you hanging with a story at the last minute
Washed Stone/ not sure what that is and haven't bought it yet. I post based on personal experience and not fairytale wishful thinking like some others
6" blocks are N120
9" blocks are N130
Thanks a lot.

Those are standard prices but I negotiated lower prices on blocks because I will use only that one source for the duration of my project.

If you can mould your own blocks correctly then you'll get significant savings of near 33%.

Good luck on your project Sir. This is s great place to seek advice as needed but you'll need to sift the wheat from the chaff.

EgunMogaji:


I responded on the original topic.

I know for fact that you should be able to get lower prices on granite and stone dust (something I recommend that you consider instead of sharp sand at least in the foundation stage) from egba.

Thanks and goodluck on your project.

Dieumerci:

I respect you Sir.

igbi:
Good morning All, I bought a land that the foundation was laid like 4 years ago, the person relocated and sold the land to me, can I do another foundation or build on the existing one, will appreciate your reply. thank you.

smiley001:
Na wa for some ppl ooo. Something u av no knowledge of yet u still commented 'Why the Sob story' or 'Abi o '. And a post that wasn't even directed at u.

I believed dis was a personal thing btw the Moniker I quoted and I. And I didn't want to make it public and for d fact that I openly apologised didn't mean I wronged him or I was wrong becos I still av d chats wit me.

If u could read very well, u would see dat I removed d sentence I quoted from the post(reply to a response for price list of materials in ibadan) and in d post, there was something like 'watch out for a Nairaland supplier that may leave you hanging with a story at the last minute '. Which I want to believe it indirectly concerned me becos dis was exactly what happened btw us as I wasn't expecting such from him becos he even thanked me after d chats.

Also, I read from a post which stated he would watch the way he gives out recommendation on here due to what happened before. Dis isn't supposed supposed to supposed to be public if there weren't indirect negative comments at me.

Dis is exactly what transpired: I approached u to supply ur site which is a normal marketing skill after a while, we both agreed wit d terms and condition. I did d job and after a while u approached me for more supply in a bigger quantity like 6 times what I supplied before (laterite and granite) which to be frank I would definitely make so good money. And u even said even if my prices would be a bit higher Dan other vendors', u would still give me d job to do which which I appreciated and u even sent me recharge card money.

After, I indirectly refused d jobs. I told you I won't be chanced to do d jobs and dat he shld give it to someone else maybe his builder.


He den thanked me and also said He took my excuse as my right to refuse services which is very good in business practice but I shld know dat I wasn't dealing wit his builder but I was dealing wit him so I shld ignore his builder. Dat was all.

And all dis happened till 6th of October. I didn't av to apologise publicly if not for some indirect negative comments toward me even when I wasn't at fault and I'm still a small boy trying to raise a reasonable customer base.



Reason why I refused to take the Job: on d first supply to d site, I read it on d eyes of d builder dat he was highly interested in d supply though he didn't tell me such and I saw he was very powerful spiritually so, I needed to keep my head becos dis kind of scenario just happened to me where a nairalander contacted me for materials, but d guy he was using before got my number somewhere and threatened me but I refused to listen to d guy. Could u believe dat I had a very fatal accident on my way back from d delivery of d materials dat I nearly lost my life but thank God for my mother's prayers dat I survived, my right hand hasn't healed up till now with open scars dat everybody sees. I don't rilly use my right hand as before but d doctors said it would heal up wit time and it's almost 3 months now. Some Nairalander engineers dat engaged me of recent saw my right hand.


Pls let's always av core information about things before passing judgement.

For apologising openly didn't mean I was putting up a cry or a sorry story but I had to becos I was reading some indirect comments at me to negate my business which I didn't deserve.


Come and take more money, no thanks, give it to another person shouldn't call for indirect negative comments.





@EgunMogaji sir: I hereby apologise for anything I may av caused u pls do forgive me... For the fact that we didn't work on dis doesn't mean dat I can never work for u again becos CUSTOMERS are always right. I'm sorry sir.


Thanks all.

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when "two people" are having issues, l think if you cannot contribute POSITIVELY, the best thing to do is to "stay out of it"....
...... not make snide remarks that show you are "blindly" taking sides.

Your comment above is completely unnecessary and reckless.

For @brag3 to have just quoted this post of his supplier, right in the middle of the current discussion, means there is 'more to it' than that quote (and reading the quote itself reveals a prior issue).
l personally dont know what went on between the two except for what @brag posted up there. So, l wont jump at it nor expect anyone to ...

Next time, l think it is proper to first ask questions and understand what is going on/what really occurred ...before pitching your tent.
You did not contribute anything to the "core issue" ..........but rather just made that your "impressionistic" comment!

"3rd party" Opinions on matters of grouse between two people, no matter the "overriding implicit interest", MUST be informed

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Edited: Mind you, l am not taking brief for either of the two parties simply because l dont have all the relevant information of what transpired.
Maybe with the passage of time, l will "be informed" of what happened but my comments should not be misinterpreted as condoning/defending or antagonising either party.

mufutau55:
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Smiley, its' good you took the time to shed more light on the matter.
Having said that, it is even better that you have apologized "repeatedly" to your customer because no matter how we dice it, the customer was disappointed since he has began to love your "business association" with him.

The matter should be a "by-gone is by-gone". It is up to your customer to forgive though l understand you did not elope with his money but your refusal was a disappointment to his expectations.
I will implore him to understand and see things from your point of view, .........."a fear resulting from a threat to life is very powerful on some people"

What concerns me more is your "mentality" and l would like to take this personally between "me and you".
First, l will be untruthful if l say "there are no powers of darkness".
So, it is possible that you felt "uncomfortable" with that builder who wants to use his "winch-eyes" to look you.

Now, can you actually ascribe your accident to the "grouse" you had with the other guy where-in you had a bad hand, with 100% certainty?

I dont think so.
There are accidents of negligence we impose on ourselves (like if l dont sleep enough and l am driving under fatigue!)
There are accidents of mere coincidence (like someone broke the red light and ran into me!)
There are also accidents of "negative mindset" (Like if l keep saying l will be sick, my body and soul can actually respond to this negative energy and l would physically get sick. That much is scientifically proven in "placebo experiments".).

In all, l think you should avoid every one of this mindset.

If you believe in the "spiritual"... and you are that spiritually inclined then l will implore you to go the whole hog and be spiritual: PRAY WITHOUT CEASING!
Before you leave home, commit your journey and business into the Lord's hand. When you return home, give "Thanks to God" for the day and your safety.
I tell you, if you are faithful with this and "No Evil is found within your heart" (You dont do or wish others evil)..... all the "winch eyes" in the world cannot do you a damn thing.
I am speaking from personal and physical experience here. I am not a "church person" but l can confirm to you that PRAYER WORKS!
Its even scientific because it is a sort of "energy tuning" when you pray.

For example, in the current case, you could simply have called "the Builder in the presence of your Customer" and lay it down between them and ask the Builder if he has anything against you supplying the stuff.
(I bet he will say "No" ) and that statement will fight on your behalf because you have done the needful and done it openly!

There is a reason that we say "CURSE WITHOUT REASON, SHALL NEVER LAND".
That statement is very powerful if your heart is clean.

I wish you well but dont let fear and negativity ruin your life and business.
You said you are a young man and its my wish that you will grow both physically and spiritually, even business-wise.
Just watch what you do to others and please treat others FAIRLY.


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