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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:31am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Lintels at Mavverick site
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:34am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Slab work at mavverick site done by Brabus. Please kindly observe the position of the plumbing pipes.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:36am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Slab reinforcement work done at mavverick site by Brabus 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:40am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Slab work at mavverick site Please observe the position of the same plumbing pipe he posted. Who engaged the plumber who chiseled the Beams and when was it chiseled?
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:42am On Oct 26, 2015 |
More pics from mavverick site - done by Brabus.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:52am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Slab pics from mavverick site
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:54am On Oct 26, 2015 |
mavverick slab work
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 12:57am On Oct 26, 2015 |
All blocks used on the structure were supplied by mavverick
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 12:59am On Oct 26, 2015 |
erico2k2: I would be cool actually but my knuckle head friends, Smith, Wesson, Winchester and Glock, will surely have to say something ![]() Dem go come talk say the Americans don waka come with their yeye guns. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:00am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Videos Note: all pictures and videos posted are taken from whatsapp chat between Brabus and mavverick. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KHZFxv1_n4M https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q44h7eR5N4c https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jc5gjAduCD4 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A48l3Jnasxo 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:02am On Oct 26, 2015 |
@brabus, Who built the house from foundation level to deking stage? At what stage your service was engaged and at what stage your service was no more needed? 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Chekitaut: 1:10am On Oct 26, 2015 |
brabus:a u kidding me.. Bros iro ni oo |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:11am On Oct 26, 2015 |
FastShipping: At foundation stage, it was a contract prepared by the owner based on NextHome estimate. The contract stopped at the Sandfilling of the house. All materials after Sandfilling were supplied by the owner. I only took up the role of supervision afterwards up to slab level. I got disengaged completely from the project at the completion of the slab. There are records. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:13am On Oct 26, 2015 |
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:17am On Oct 26, 2015 |
brabus: Let me and the forum get this straight because your submission wasn't cleared. Please, answer the following questions: 1. Did you just tell me your contract and work ended at the foundation level? 2. Who did the German floor? 3. Who did the block setting and pillars/columns after German floor level? 4. Who did the lintel work? 5. Who did the block settings after lintel work? 6. Who did the decking? Please, answer these six questions and let everyone make their judgments. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:32am On Oct 26, 2015 |
FastShipping: When I visited the site a month after I left the project and observed some things, I informed the client in the chat message attached.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by FastShipping: 1:52am On Oct 26, 2015 |
brabus: Going by the answers you provided, it is fair to say you failed to discharge your duties as expected. You have to humble yourself and admit that you failed in your supervision job to have had cement paper loaded in the lintel and having some pillars not adequately filled to the maximum level. From the pictures you have provided, I won't say the job you did was all bad. I wouldn't say that. The pictures you countered with showed you did 80% of the work right if not more. How can you show good sides of the job you did and claim the bad ones were not done by you? In this life, you don't have to claim you are right all the time. Sometimes, you have to humble yourself and admit your shortcomings so that things don't get out of hand. If you had done that all these while with Maverick, bringing this problem to the forum wouldn't have happened. Nobody is 100% perfect, try to admit culpability on this project and move on. N.B The BB conversation made no reference to the problems maverick brought to the forum. 5 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 1:52am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Chekitaut: That's Akoka for you. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:27am On Oct 26, 2015 |
FastShipping: Nobody is 100% perfect. I agree. Can we see the full pictures of the areas where the shoddy jobs were done? I can tell you the ones I didn't do in those pictures. Anyone can post bad pictures bro. Where it was taken is what we need to know. Pls take note I didn't remove the formwork from the slab by myself. The client did without my knowledge. In the pictures posted, I never had anything to do with the upper floor beam for plumbing work. How come the chiseled beam became part of my job? All works done at the upper floor are not supervised by me. How come misaligned columns came into the discussion? Cement bags was never loaded in the lintels. They were used to fill up the hollow blocks. And there was no single pillar that we didn't fill to the brim. Even though I agree that honeycombs are inevitable but it can be repaired with pneumatic gun. (I'm sure they didn't make the gun for Brabus' project alone). Anyway, here's an unreserved apologies once again to mavverick over any issues he may have on his project. I still stand by my word that I never did anything wrong on the project. We never compromised on any part of the structure at all. Thank you! ________ Whether the whatsapp chat is there or not, the difference is very clear even to a blind man that the one who did the ground floor is not the same as the one who did the upper floor. A full picture of the house will confirm that.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 2:47am On Oct 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: You know how we do...... 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 2:50am On Oct 26, 2015 |
When a Certified SE visited one of my site, he didn't just come up with ambiguous report. He clearly explained things on paper and had columns labeled individually for easy identification. The report of my SE is more like "Column 4 on Grid e is out of alignment" That way things come very easy to identify and not some randomly cutout pictorial report. We (the builder, the Consultant, the Client) were all there together and the checks were carried out until everyone is satisfied.
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jamesqu(m): 3:06am On Oct 26, 2015 |
mufutau55: Whoever did the job....it is the pillar on block work that left my mouth wide open! 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by mufutau55(m): 3:12am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Jamesqu: Whoever did the block work on the first floor did the wrong job... the pillar was there after the decking slab... If Brabus was fired after the decking slab (as he claimed), then the person who did the upper floor is in the wrong. But every boo-boo until the decking slab belongs to Brabus... for supplying the labor and supervision... regardless of wheiter the Client supply the materials or not. And is it a general practice for the hollow blocks be filled with cement bags? Not with/for me. Hajji M. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Jamesqu(m): 3:15am On Oct 26, 2015 |
mufutau55: I agree with you Alhaji. Assuming the contractor didn't see the workers putting bags, nylon, slippers in the cement work...which one is pillar on block ehn....this is high level grade one madness. I pity the client. 3 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 3:54am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Jamesqu: I've seen worse. There's a german floor across from my site that has weed growing though it, there's a rock coming out of the german floor and pars of the german floor gives way under your feet. These kinds of nonsense is why I decided to become the General Contractor on my site. I know my temperament and there will just be bloodshed so it's better to avoid it all by just having individual artisans come onsite to do specific tasks with agreed upon quality. Regardless of any pipsqueak whose ox is gored because they think I can't do it. I feel for the owner. 1 Like |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 3:55am On Oct 26, 2015 |
mufutau55: Hajji. M. What is shady to man, is exposed to God. To get just 100 blocks for filling hollow spaces on a decking of 6 flats became an issue. If I stopped them from working just because of 100 blocks, it's problem. If they go ahead and pour the concrete in holes uncovered, I'll be tagged as someone without human feeling. What should I do? When I can't take it no longer, I moved on. I know there are people who will do just anything the client want in order to put food on their table. I'm really not familiar with that way of life. Take note that I requested for the block at least two days before concrete pour so as to engage some guys to do it before the d-day. Were the blocks supplied? No! _______ Problems emanate when someone in UK had to order 100 blocks for someone in Nigeria and expected the same person to communicate with supplier if they're on their way to the site, call the security to ascertain it's delivered, call his daddy to request for payment to be made to the supplier who said "no money, no pay" and inform the workers to wait for the eleventh hour call that there's work tomorrow. Only Baba Lati (the bricklayer) can do that. That's not service, it's called madness. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by Nobody: 4:23am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Okay I see some interpersonal issues going on here and is a personal lesson for me. Something similar almost occurred on my site but I squashed it pronto. It had to do with water supply. My fault and I took immediate steps to make sure that it will never happen again. 1 Like
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Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 4:32am On Oct 26, 2015 |
EgunMogaji: Egunmogaji, The client in question is not unfamiliar with this type of issues. But when problem arises, we need to own up and not find someone to blame it on. Read this my post in 2012: Babaeko1 or Mavverick question. https://www.nairaland.com/1040620/building-nigeria-lessons-learned/2#12423944 My response https://www.nairaland.com/1040620/building-nigeria-lessons-learned/2#12430452 Mavverick is the same person as babaeko1 (I don't know other monikers he has on here). I was advising him in 2012 and unknown to me, I was telling him what happened at his site where we went over budget just because he was treading an unfamiliar terrain. The suppliers were just smiling to the bank and he doesn't seem to care about it. He asked the question in October 2012, we did the fence between March and May 2012. There was a time around May 2015, right in front of him, one of his man accosted me on site that we can't work because I haven't settled him from the contract I got. I was like where did this come from? Do you think I'm a beggar. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sako28: 5:20am On Oct 26, 2015 |
mufutau55: HajJI M. As an elder of the property section, Please can you beg and encourage Brabus, not to bring his issues to this trend. I know there is a trend for that already, any related issue about him should be on that trend. This trend is were we learn from the masters through discussions. Mr Brabus with all due respect only contribute to matter discuss NOT bring no Issue here. God bless you as you comply. Click Like if you support this Motion. Thank Sako 2 Likes |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 5:50am On Oct 26, 2015 |
Oga sako28, The windshield is always at the front. I've moved on. I'm not the one to beg. I'm not the one bringing the issue here. The one who brought it prefer to be addressed here and not through other platform which we've tried and has failed. Trust me, 99% of decisions on Nairaland property are made based on errors because we do not know the truth. Whoever had issues with me should come to NextHome Official Address at Suite H52, Ikota Shopping Complex, off Lekki/Epe expressway to air their complaints and not every thread where I contribute. I'll always defend the lies. Sulking is something I thought children do and not adults. |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by sako28: 6:23am On Oct 26, 2015 |
brabus: |
Re: General Topic Thread-To Discuss Anything And Everything in Building Construction by brabus(m): 6:27am On Oct 26, 2015 |
sako28: And you too sir! Have a great week. |
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